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repentix

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May 26, 2013
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I would estimate never. We've had 1 TB hard drives for a few years now and I haven't heard anyone complain about running out of space on them. Further, as we accelerate into the cloud, individuals requirements for storage space is going to continue going down. I expect that we're probably going to settle down around 128 GB in a few years. It'll be enough for your OS and apps, plus the other files that you always need access to, and everything else will be on the cloud, where you'll have a video and music streaming service (IE, Netflix and Spotify), plus a service where you upload your pictures and videos to (IE, flickr and YouTube), plus someplace where you share your documents (iCloud, Dropbox, or Google Drive).

So the cloud companies will obviously want these 8 TB drives because customer demand for their cloud storage is going to be going up, but customers will probably never want them.

There will probably be other specialized professionals that will want 8 TB drives. IE, people with artistic jobs, where they need to deal with a lot of raw, uncompressed, media that is of the highest quality possible.

Not happening, the cloud is unreliable and expensive. If the cloud offers me unlimited Storage space and fives me gigabit internet, I might consider it for music but not for anything else ;)
 

RightMACatU

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Jul 12, 2012
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What was really amusing was when I had a Mac LC II. It had an 80MB hard drive, and I later purchased a ZIP drive to accompany it. So, I had a 80MB hard drive, and 100MB floppies. :D

Back in 1988 leading edge 286 12Mhz systems came with a whopping 20MB to 40MB drive. An average 45 minutes MP3 album @ 128Kbps would not fit on there :D
 

RightMACatU

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...Further, as we accelerate into the cloud, individuals requirements for storage space is going to continue going down. I expect that we're probably going to settle down around 128 GB in a few years. It'll be enough for your OS and apps, plus the other files that you always need access to, and everything else will be on the cloud, where you'll have a video and music streaming service (IE, Netflix and Spotify), plus a service where you upload your pictures and videos to (IE, flickr and YouTube), plus someplace where you share your documents (iCloud, Dropbox, or Google Drive).

I fully support your statement as everything is being streamed. Your local storage requirement will be dictated by the OS and your need to access offline stuff.

This opens the door for smaller and super fast storage devices and thinner devices including 1TB flash drives for your backup needs.
 

ArtOfWarfare

macrumors G3
Nov 26, 2007
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Not happening, the cloud is unreliable and expensive. If the cloud offers me unlimited Storage space and fives me gigabit internet, I might consider it for music but not for anything else ;)

Oh, I guess I forgot about the people who don't professionally require gigantic files, but are just weirdly determined that HD isn't good enough and that they need to be able to zoom into their videos and see the individual skin cells of actors. For the rest of us, streaming HD is good enough for now.
 

magicMac

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Apr 13, 2010
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I wonder if 8TB standard height 3.5" drives will mean 3TB standard height 2.5" drives to go into laptops?
 

Razeus

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Jul 11, 2008
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My thought exactly. Never dealing with that again; Hitachi only from now on :cool:

Western Digital for me. I went to them after my Seagates failed (they were so cheap at the time, but I got what I paid for) and all my digital photos from 2004-2008 as well as music.

The music I could easily replace since I still have my CD's and using other sources:eek:, but those photos of my son and his sister in those years are gone except the 500MB's of photos I was able to recover.

I tried them again last year and the drive started acting funny so I sold it and said never again.

Now I have a full backup plan, a more organized photo management system, and WD drives.
 

Nightarchaon

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But... It's Seagate.

That means 1 day 1 hr 1 minute 1 second after the warrenty period, this drive will have Zero bytes storage.

going off my experience with previous Seagate drives it will also run hotter than the sun and sound like someone digging up from the depths of the nine hells whilst doing read/write seeks
 

justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
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4GB HDD??? That was 10x what I had on my first computer. Packard Bell Legend Supreme 1956. It was running a 486 with DX/2 technology. It was 25MHz but it used some magic to get it to 50MHz. The drive was 400MB, and I never filled it! That was back in March, 1994. I was a senior in H.S. at the time. I also paid $400 (well my father) for 16MB of RAM. Ouch. $795 for an Epson scanner. Ouch again!

Now, I have 8192 MB (8GB) of RAM and 262144 MB (256GB) of HDD storage. That's over 600 times the HDD and 500 times the RAM. That's what 20 years will do.

Oh, I had Windows for Workgroups 3.11.

[Nitpicking]

Fixed that for you.

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gnasher729

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Nov 25, 2005
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If he was good at predicting the future he probably wouldn't have been working at Sears.

"It's all the space you'll ever need" is more likely to make you buy than "you'll come back for more storage every year or two, as long as you live".
 

PocketSand11

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Western Digital for me. And I'm an advocate for 2.5" drives in desktops. Shamefully I admit my 1TB is both 3.5" AND Seagate.

WD has only failed once for me, but it was in the lemon 2006 iMac, so all bets are off there. Just curious, why do you like 2.5" drives in desktops?

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[Nitpicking]

Fixed that for you.

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To be super nitpicky, he said "GB", not "GiB". So gigabytes, not gibibytes. The original 1000MB = 1GB was correct.
 

NewbieCanada

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Oct 9, 2007
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"It's all the space you'll ever need" is more likely to make you buy than "you'll come back for more storage every year or two, as long as you live".

Oh sure - I was referencing Sears current woes more than his sales technique.

If someone ever told me that though I would laugh.

I currently have 8.08 TB used and 6.4 free.

And only 1.4 TB of it is porn.
 

JamesPDX

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Brands and brands

Every Seagate drive I ever owned died an early unfortunate death. I stick with WD drives, which work well and WD is a company with great support.

Yeah, Seagates were great for a long time, so I was shocked to find that there were problems. (I hope they can recover their disk image.:p) I think the first impressions either impress, or frighten people off: Last year I bought 4 3TB Red drives for my NAS and one of them began to die within the first 10 days. I took them all back and swapped them for the 3TB Hitachi Ultrastars. I read the reviews and pondered deeply before purchase and it may have just been a bad one, but it still made an impression on me given that it was my first WD purchase. I still cringe knowing that WD bought Hitachi and I really hope they leave the product line alone. WD: Don't make the Hitachi line thinner or try to make it snappier.

I still have a SCSI IBM Deskstar (from the '90s?) that sounds like a 727's APU, but it still works.
 

OmegaRed1723

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2009
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The Waste

I'm not talking about maximum capacity—I'm talking about the maximum size you can format a single volume in an array. If you scroll further down on that link, it specifically states: "Max File System Size: 16TB". So while you can have 24TB loaded, with n-1 for redundnacy that works out to around 17TB useable space—meaning there would be one 16TB volume and a second volume of ~1TB.
 

cmaier

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Jul 25, 2007
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I'm not talking about maximum capacity—I'm talking about the maximum size you can format a single volume in an array. If you scroll further down on that link, it specifically states: "Max File System Size: 16TB". So while you can have 24TB loaded, with n-1 for redundnacy that works out to around 17TB useable space—meaning there would be one 16TB volume and a second volume of ~1TB.

That's just one of their boxes. Many of their other boxes - even 2-drive boxes - support 108TB.

e.g.: https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/spec/DS713+

The 3612, etc.
 

Tech198

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Mar 21, 2011
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:eek:

8TB holy molly !!

I wouldn't even be able to image what i'd do with that much storage from a consumer stand-point
 

Tech198

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Mar 21, 2011
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isn't that the problem ?

storage grows faster than os's come out which support these high capacities ?

Its been a a known history.

People want the higher capacities, but face this brick wall.
 

subsonix

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Feb 2, 2008
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isn't that the problem ?

storage grows faster than os's come out which support these high capacities ?

Are you referring to my post? Then it isn't true, ZFS is 128 bit as an example and runs fine on a 32 bit OS.
 
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