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tongxinshe

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I wish we can bring all those jobs to America #

Seems like they have huge hiring sprees every year. Maybe one day. One day...

No one in the US will want that job. To US people, it's a job with unbelievably low salary and is unbelievably exhaustive.
 

ShermanL

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Nov 4, 2010
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100,000 jobs in China instead of in the USA!

It hurts to see that Foxconn actually brought on 100,000 ADDITIONAL workers in June to handle the iPhone demand.

I know that the costs of manufacturing in China is sooooooooo much less than manufacturing in the US, but wouldn't you pay another $100 if Apple would manufacture in the US?
 

Liberty.

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Sep 13, 2008
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It hurts to see that Foxconn actually brought on 100,000 ADDITIONAL workers in June to handle the iPhone demand.

I know that the costs of manufacturing in China is sooooooooo much less than manufacturing in the US, but wouldn't you pay another $100 if Apple would manufacture in the US?
Another 100? Another 1000.
 

ShermanL

macrumors newbie
Nov 4, 2010
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Chinese manufacturing = labor

American manufacturing = Ingenuity

Wouldn't it be nice to know what it really would cost to manufacture in the US?

Wouldn't it be nice to know if we could add 25,000 jobs and a bunch of robotics to manufacture and at what cost?

We all like to pay as little as possible but with that goal, we'll continue to build up the Chinese economy, which I don't mind doing. I just don't want to do it at our expense.
 

cocky jeremy

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Jul 12, 2008
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I wish we can bring all those jobs to America #

Seems like they have huge hiring sprees every year. Maybe one day. One day...

One day.. when we all agree to pay $4,000 for an iPhone.

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It hurts to see that Foxconn actually brought on 100,000 ADDITIONAL workers in June to handle the iPhone demand.

I know that the costs of manufacturing in China is sooooooooo much less than manufacturing in the US, but wouldn't you pay another $100 if Apple would manufacture in the US?

No.

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It hurts to see that Foxconn actually brought on 100,000 ADDITIONAL workers in June to handle the iPhone demand.

I know that the costs of manufacturing in China is sooooooooo much less than manufacturing in the US, but wouldn't you pay another $100 if Apple would manufacture in the US?

No.
 

saha-med

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Dec 2, 2012
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but...

we're being told there's a massive design flaw with these phones.

surely no one in their right mind is buying them :rolleyes:

Well ip4 had antenna-gate, but yet it sold boatloads

Oh wait, i forgot antenna-gate and scuff-gate are just sam-sung conspiracies...hyped up by the media
 

silentsal

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Feb 12, 2009
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I can't believe that I got my 6 Plus already! My order had an estimated shipping from November 9-27, but I got it way ahead of that.

When did you order yours? I waited in line at AT&T in hopes to get a 6+ but instead had to order it. I have an expected ship of November 9-27 as well, just hoping to shed some light perhaps a closer delivery. Thanks!
 

Daoyee

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Sep 30, 2014
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Hmmm...just realized that my shipment departed over 15 hours ago. That is a really long trip. So I am guessing it either got hijacked, or dropped off the map. Hmm.

Hopeful to be the owner of a iPhone 6 plus, 128GB, someday.
 

sillywabbit

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Nov 10, 2012
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I wish we can bring all those jobs to America



Seems like they have huge hiring sprees every year. Maybe one day. One day...


It is probably because are know to be lazy and complain a lot. Plus, I am sure they don't like Unions.
 

gnasher729

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Dude... they pay their workers about $1 USD a day. I'm not making that up. I read that in an article on this site last year.

Are you willing to work 8-12 hrs a day for $1?! I sure as hell am not! Keep those jobs in China!

You are making it up. Salaries for absolute beginners are about $300 per month without overtime, and overtime is paid. However, this is with Chinese cost of living. Unlike a US McDonalds or Walmart employee who makes a lot more but cannot live off that money without getting benefits, that Chinese worker can easily save half of his salary or more.

Let's say you decide to go to university to become a lawyer, but you have no cash whatsoever, so you first need a job and save some money, enough to cover your whole time at university without any job while you are studying. How long do you think does that take you if you are American and get a full time job at Walmart (Answer: About infinitely long) or if you are Chinese and get a full time job at Foxconn (Answer: About three years).

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It hurts to see that Foxconn actually brought on 100,000 ADDITIONAL workers in June to handle the iPhone demand.

I know that the costs of manufacturing in China is sooooooooo much less than manufacturing in the US, but wouldn't you pay another $100 if Apple would manufacture in the US?

Obviously not, since most of Apple's customers are not in the USA and don't care about US jobs.
 
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ShermanL

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Nov 4, 2010
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So let's send all our jobs to China!

I don't get it.

Many people complain about the economy.

The politicians talk jobs, jobs, jobs.

But we're not willing to pay a little more for "Made in U.S.A."?
 

gnasher729

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I don't get it.

Many people complain about the economy.

The politicians talk jobs, jobs, jobs.

But we're not willing to pay a little more for "Made in U.S.A."?

If Apple wanted to hire 100,000 factory workers in the USA right now, how many would they find?
 

iolinux333

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Another 100? Another 1000.

I would pay more if it were a GOOD product. Unfortunately American made products took a nosedive in quality starting in the 1970s to the point where now for many things, the quality of products made anywhere in Asia, even China, is usually superior.

Meanwhile all of our brightest young men and women went into non-STEM fields, or didn't go into a trade, and can't really do anything beyond strike up a fine conversation about any topic (as long as it's politically correct) while serving me coffee.
 

svan71

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Nov 22, 2013
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if only

If only Americans were willing to work for 2 dollars a day. Unemployment rates would drop to zero in America

well go some place were there fracking, great wages all around the only people not working is the 3 or 4 % that will never work.

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If Apple wanted to hire 100,000 factory workers in the USA right now, how many would they find?


99 weeks of unemployment , food stamps, Obamacare, why work?

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No one in the US will want that job. To US people, it's a job with unbelievably low salary and is unbelievably exhaustive.

No in America we want $15 an hour to flip burgers and get "free" healthcare while constantly demonizing the industries that brought us the highest standard of living the world has ever seen. We are taxing and regulating industries out of this country to stop global warming don't you know...even though there is no global warming for 17 plus years...See all that carbon dioxide for 17 years now has not increased the temp at all but the communist socialist know its a great lie to attack capitalism with.

Also don't ever explain to the watermelons in the Global warming crowd that without co2 we die and the co2 that is put in there air every single day since the planet began does not just stay there plants use it to live !
 

gnasher729

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Also don't ever explain to the watermelons in the Global warming crowd that without co2 we die and the co2 that is put in there air every single day since the planet began does not just stay there plants use it to live !

This thread seems to be derailed already, but nonsense like this needs to be put straight.

Humans don't need CO2. Not at all. Humans need oxygen in the form of O2, not CO2 (humans don't like oxygen in the form of O3 either, which is the poisonous Ozone). Plants extract CO2 and turn it into plant material (eventually wood). If you look at plants and animals/humans creating and absorbing CO2, it's just a cycle.

The problem that we are facing is that CO2 has been removed from the atmosphere and deposited as coal, oil, gas, and in massive forests. Which has reduced the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. Since climate is _very_ sensitive to the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, this reduction of CO2 has created the climate that we know and love. But as forests are destroyed, and fossile fuels are burnt, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere goes up just slightly, and that slight increase causes a massive change in the climate.

Now what should be punished is calling people "watermelons" when you don't know what you are talking about yourself.

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No one in the US will want that job. To US people, it's a job with unbelievably low salary and is unbelievably exhaustive.

It's a job that people take and save half their salary every month. How many people in the US can do that? The people getting these low salaries are living in China, where the cost of living is a lot, lot lower. Everyone makes a lot less money, therefore everyone pays out a lot less money. I hear people complaining that maths textbooks in the USA cost $150. That Chinese worker saving half his salary to go to university isn't going to pay $150 for a textbook but $5.

And really, what do you mean by "unbelievable exhaustive"? If you said "boring" I might agree, but I've done harder work than that without any problems.
 

Switchback666

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Nov 16, 2012
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Yeah same with CS jobs, call centers are huge here in latin america :) on top of my head company that have call centers here are At&T, Sprint, Samsung (USA, MEXICO and CANADA divisions), Cricket, Fedex, Time warner cable, Verizon, Dish, Blue shields and few others that i don't remember at the moment.
 

tongxinshe

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Feb 24, 2008
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It's a job that people take and save half their salary every month. How many people in the US can do that? The people getting these low salaries are living in China, where the cost of living is a lot, lot lower. Everyone makes a lot less money, therefore everyone pays out a lot less money.

Go check the current food price, gas price, house price, etc. at Shenzhen (where Foxconn is), compare with the current food price (not the restaurants, but that in Costco or Safeway), gas price and house price in your area, then you will know how outdated your mindset had become.
 

AntoineLec

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Jul 31, 2012
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Step 1: Buy an iPhone 6/ 6 Plus
Step 2: Record a video of you torturing the iPhone and post it on Youtube
Step 3: Profit (Thanks Youtube)

I love this business model. It require zero skills. At some point I was expecting somebody posting a serious video with the phone laying on two fixed points, and being subjected to a known vertical force.. but I doubt it's going to happen. Bend is the new drop.
 
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