Engadget reviews the new Touch!

rbf1138 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:07 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/07/i...h-review-2010/

LanEvo · Sep 7, 2010, 08:14 PM

The listed a 16GB model for $229, is that just a typo?

kcjohn · Sep 7, 2010, 08:23 PM

Great review, goes great with a glass of Apple Kool-aid.

kingofkings8183 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:25 PM

told you the screen isnt IPS.wonderful device nonetheless,and the video capture looks great.cant wait!

fwoppers · Sep 7, 2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LanEvo

The listed a 16GB model for $229, is that just a typo?

... if not, I am saving $70 tomorrow morning. :P

Camera: As expected

Screen: As expected

Everything else: As expected

JoeShades · Sep 7, 2010, 08:31 PM

i am not happy if the speaker is no good, i have the 1g and i hate having to always use the headphones when just listening to a podcast or a quick video clip, i don't want to have to get my headphones every time. one of the big reasons for me to upgrade is an external speaker

tablo13 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:32 PM

The camera looks just decent, but with grains

freeme007 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:36 PM

After reading the review, I feel like i want to cancel the Pre-order. I feel i got tricked into Apples hype!

maus · Sep 7, 2010, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeme007

After reading the review, I feel like i want to cancel the Pre-order. I feel i got tricked into Apples hype!

What were you expecting? Just curious.

earth.razer · 08:51 PM

How can you consider the camera stills decent? It looks like crap. All those people talking about how low pixel count doesn't equal bad image quality just feast your eyes on the pictures in this review. This is what we get after all this hype about a camera. I wouldn't be bitching if the cost stayed the same, but it didn't, it went up $50 bucks from last gen. 8Gb used to be $200 here in Canada now it's $250, so disappointed.

cmvsm · Sep 7, 2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeme007

After reading the review, I feel like i want to cancel the Pre-order. I feel i got tricked into Apples hype!

How exactly did you get "tricked"?

rbf1138 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earth.razer

How can you consider the camera stills? It looks like crap. All those people talking about how low pixel count doesn't equal bad image quality just feast your eyes on the pictures in this review. This is what we get after all this hype about a camera. I wouldn't be bitching if the cost stayed the same, but it didn't, it went up $50 bucks from last gen. 8Gb used to be $200 here in Canada now it's $250, so disappointed.

I think you're confusing the pixel count of the ipod display, and the quality of the pictures taken by the ipod camera...

freeme007 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maus

What were you expecting? Just curious.

Better Camera and GPS!

maus · Sep 7, 2010, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeme007

Better Camera and GPS!

Uh, did you not watch the keynote on Sept. 1? Apple also has the feature/spec list up on their site. Nowhere did they mention a GPS chip or a high quality camera...

Bitcrusher · Sep 7, 2010, 08:44 PM

Well, for good photos I have my camera,

, ipod camera are for "facebook pics", the HD video recording will be awesome for youtube

earth.razer · 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbf1138

I think you're confusing the pixel count of the ipod display, and the quality of the pictures taken by the ipod camera...

I was talking about the shockingly low 0.7MP pixel count of the rear camera. People were defending it saying low MP's doesn't mean low qulaity, obiviously they were wrong.

freeme007 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maus

Uh, did you not watch the keynote on Sept. 1? Apple also has the feature/spec list up on their site. Nowhere did they mention a GPS chip or a high quality camera...

I did, Jobs said it's an iPhone with out contract!

NJMetsHero · Sep 7, 2010, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeme007

I did, Jobs said it's an iPhone with out contract!

There's a reason there are differences between the iPhone and iPod touch. If you want an iPhone without the contract, you can go into the Apple Store and pay $600 for a contract free iPhone.

ralts · Sep 7, 2010, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earth.razer

How can you consider the camera stills? It looks like crap. All those people talking about how low pixel count doesn't equal bad image quality just feast your eyes on the pictures in this review. This is what we get after all this hype about a camera. I wouldn't be bitching if the cost stayed the same, but it didn't, it went up $50 bucks from last gen. 8Gb used to be $200 here in Canada now it's $250, so disappointed.

I think the camera is put in there mainly for the ability to take video, and it does it pretty well! It's just as good as the FlipHD, which is a $200 device by itself.

freeme007 · Sep 7, 2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJMetsHero

There's a reason there are differences between the iPhone and iPod touch. If you want an iPhone without the contract, you can go into the Apple Store and pay $600 for a contract free iPhone.

Yea, thats true. If they make the same as iphone, then no one will buy iphone. Wish the new touch screen is IPS.

maus · Sep 7, 2010, 08:58 PM

The only thing that might disappoint me a bit is if we find out that the RAM isn't 512mb.

Beric · Sep 7, 2010, 09:05 PM

After this review, I'm wondering if it's really time to upgrade from my 3G. I'm dying for a high-res display. But next-year's will surely get a good camera, IPS display, GPS, and double the memory for the price point.

fertilized-egg · Sep 7, 2010, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earth.razer

How can you consider the camera stills decent? It looks like crap. All those people talking about how low pixel count doesn't equal bad image quality just feast your eyes on the pictures in this review. ... I wouldn't be bitching if the cost stayed the same, but it didn't, it went up $50 bucks from last gen. 8Gb used to be $200 here in Canada now it's $250, so disappointed.

That 8G isn't the "last gen," but "last last gen," as it was just the 2nd gen iPod with inferior parts. So if anything, $250 is a bargain for something that has so much more: a much faster CPU, more RAM, cameras, better screen, etc, etc.

The camera quality is disappointing but as soon as we saw it couldn't do AF we should've known that was going to happen. On the good side the movie looks pretty good.

burgundyyears · 09:14 PM

On axis with the brightness settings at least seemingly close, the display looks every bit as good as the iPhone4's. A/Bing the same icons, I can't reliably tell a difference of any sort.

Off-axis on the long dimension obviously looks worse, but it's not a TV.

I am pleasantly surprised by the video taking performance. Almost makes me wish I got the 64GB! I'll keep my old chunky Sony point and shoot with a real lens and flash for stills, but this blows its VGA video taking far out of the water.

Lousy review though. Could it have been more cursory? Engadget wanted to be first to press and it shows.

Abscissa · Sep 7, 2010, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earth.razer

I was talking about the shockingly low 0.7MP pixel count of the rear camera. People were defending it saying low MP's doesn't mean low qulaity, obiviously they were wrong.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

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earth.razer macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2010	How can you consider the camera stills decent? It looks like crap. All those people talking about how low pixel count doesn't equal bad image quality just feast your eyes on the pictures in this review. This is what we get after all this hype about a camera. I wouldn't be bitching if the cost stayed the same, but it didn't, it went up $50 bucks from last gen. 8Gb used to be $200 here in Canada now it's $250, so disappointed. Last edited by earth.razer; Sep 7, 2010 at 08:51 PM.
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LanEvo macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2010	The listed a 16GB model for $229, is that just a typo?
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kingofkings8183 macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2010	told you the screen isnt IPS.wonderful device nonetheless,and the video capture looks great.cant wait!
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JoeShades macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Williamstown, NJ	i am not happy if the speaker is no good, i have the 1g and i hate having to always use the headphones when just listening to a podcast or a quick video clip, i don't want to have to get my headphones every time. one of the big reasons for me to upgrade is an external speaker
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freeme007 macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2008	After reading the review, I feel like i want to cancel the Pre-order. I feel i got tricked into Apples hype!
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maus macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2010	The only thing that might disappoint me a bit is if we find out that the RAM isn't 512mb.
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Beric macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area	After this review, I'm wondering if it's really time to upgrade from my 3G. I'm dying for a high-res display. But next-year's will surely get a good camera, IPS display, GPS, and double the memory for the price point. __________________ HP Envy 14: Intel i5 450m \| 4GB DDR3 \| ATI 5650 \| 14.5" 1600x900 \| Win 7 Core i7 Rig: Intel i7 720 2.66GHz \| 6GB DDR3 \| EVGA GTX 465 \| 24" 1920x1200 \| Win 7 iPt 3G iPod touch 4G 64GB
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burgundyyears macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2010	On axis with the brightness settings at least seemingly close, the display looks every bit as good as the iPhone4's. A/Bing the same icons, I can't reliably tell a difference of any sort. Off-axis on the long dimension obviously looks worse, but it's not a TV. I am pleasantly surprised by the video taking performance. Almost makes me wish I got the 64GB! I'll keep my old chunky Sony point and shoot with a real lens and flash for stills, but this blows its VGA video taking far out of the water. Lousy review though. Could it have been more cursory? Engadget wanted to be first to press and it shows. Last edited by burgundyyears; Sep 7, 2010 at 09:14 PM. Reason: Adding more to post
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