Whoa... I beat Chess

arcobb · May 7, 2005, 01:25 AM

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game

Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

MoparShaha · May 7, 2005, 01:28 AM

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone beating it. Maybe it's time I take another crack at it.

killuminati · May 7, 2005, 01:45 AM

I never knew that there was a chess game.

i just searched for it in my finder and I found chess application support, chess speakable items, and chess.plist but I couldnt find the actual app?

Balin64 · May 7, 2005, 01:47 AM

Seriously:

Congratulations.

I've had Chess in check many times but I have never beat it.

Maybe I should take another crack at it!

Does anyone else prefer the Jaguar version of Chess? The Panther version was too showy in my opinion...

Balin64 · May 7, 2005, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killuminati

I never knew that there was a chess game.

i just searched for it in my finder and I found chess application support, chess speakable items, and chess.plist but I couldnt find the actual app?

hi:

it's in your applications folder. Simple as that!

Lacero · May 7, 2005, 01:49 AM

I wonder how Kasparov would do against Tiger Chess on the hardest settings.

mad jew · May 7, 2005, 02:16 AM

I didn't realise the game was so notoriously hard. I just thought I really sucked at chess.

Congratulations!

Doctor Q · May 7, 2005, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacero

I wonder how Kasparov would do against Tiger Chess on the hardest settings.

He'd blow chess.app out of the water. The Mac would be asking for mercy before you know it. It still takes a specialized computer system, programmed by people who have studied chess-playing computers in research labs and analyzed past games, and with years spent optimizing, to beat the best human chess players in any consistent way. Computers get faster faster than humans get faster, so someday the computer in your wristwatch will be able to beat any human at chess, but as of today chess.app ain't there yet.

ksz · May 7, 2005, 02:40 AM

As I recall, Kasparov finally lost to Deep Thought or one of its successors. It was not an easy victory for the machine; Kasparov, I think, succumbed to fatigue during the long matches. If he were younger he may have beaten it soundly. However, Kasparov acknowledged that the best computer programs will begin to defeat the best human players consistently within 5 years, turning chess into a "solved problem." Will that reduce chess to a mere mathematical algorithm, a solvable problem, and rob the fun out of the game? Once we figuresd out that tic tac toe can always end in draw or Rubik's cube can always be solved in a programmatic way, we lost interest in those games. Kasparov has publicly wondered whether that might happen to his beloved game as well.

Josias · Nov 12, 2006, 03:03 PM

Sorry to brag and revive an old thread, but unless you guys hadn't upgraded to Tiger at the time, and Panthers chess was smarter, I think I'm very good at Chess. I just beat it on hardest in 7 minutes. Wiped out his every piece on the board, except the king. How come?

beatsme · Nov 12, 2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcobb

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game

Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

congratulations

I'm a fairly competent chess player (or so I think

), and I reliably get my @ss thoroughly kicked.

OwlsAndApples · Nov 12, 2006, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beatsme

congratulations

I'm a fairly competent chess player (or so I think

), and I reliably get my @ss thoroughly kicked.

Yeah ditto...it always seems to find some way of wriggling from check

grrr...

SC68Cal · Nov 12, 2006, 03:49 PM

This is why I play games like Quake 4 and Defcon......

Chess made me cry.

XnavxeMiyyep · Nov 12, 2006, 03:55 PM

To my knowledge, Chess in Tiger, at least at the lowest difficulty, is not as difficult as Chess in Panther or Jaguar. They probably realized it was slaughtering all the average Chess players (like me) and decided to give us a break.

lazyboy922 · Nov 12, 2006, 03:59 PM

We found Bobby Fisher!

sysiphus · Nov 12, 2006, 04:21 PM

Congrats...always fun to win. But as previously stated, it was a better challenge in pervious versions of X. I almost wish I could run an older version on my MBP so I could have a challenge again...

mcshyd · Nov 20, 2006, 04:36 PM

I Just beat mac chess on OSX 10.4.8 on the strongest setting, and i'm a little disappointed. I realized that if i open with the kings pawn and go into an early queen gambit, the computer takes it, every time. This leaves me with early control of the center, along with better positioning of my knights. I started at the easiest setting, and kept going up in increments. I figured I would continue to play at the level that beat me first. except, it never did. BOO. I didn't pay 2500 dollars for a computer thats more of an idiot than I am.

yellow · Nov 20, 2006, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcshyd

I didn't pay 2500 dollars for a computer thats more of an idiot than I am.

I'm assuming this is a joke, since the computer has no bearing on how the application plays chess?

mcshyd · Nov 20, 2006, 04:44 PM

yeah, i guess it wasn't funny.

yellow · Nov 20, 2006, 04:47 PM

Perhaps you should have purchased a WOPR?
I hear it's pretty good at games.

mcshyd · Nov 20, 2006, 04:51 PM

um, that's a ridiculous reference, and I feel ashamed to have gotten it.

yellow · Nov 20, 2006, 04:51 PM

Hehehe.. congrats (I think).

satty · 05:40 PM

Congratulations

What settings did you use?

I prefer to play with Black and use the "Regular" option. In my opinion this program is useless with those settings. However if the computer is playing Black I definitely struggle.

Give this one a try on your Mac:

ChrisA · Nov 20, 2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcobb

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!...

I've found that too. In the "easy" mode you can pretty much walk through the game and trounce it.

mcshyd · 06:02 PM

I played white with the regular settings. Perhaps I should try one of the variants...

Do you know how the variants change the gameplay?

Satty, you down for a game?

May 7, 2005, 01:25 AM	#1
arcobb macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado	Whoa... I beat Chess I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

May 7, 2005, 01:28 AM	#2
MoparShaha macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco	Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone beating it. Maybe it's time I take another crack at it. __________________ MacBook Pro C2D 2.16 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 200 GB HD 5G iPod 30GB White BenQ 24" LCD

May 7, 2005, 01:45 AM	#3
killuminati macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2004	I never knew that there was a chess game. i just searched for it in my finder and I found chess application support, chess speakable items, and chess.plist but I couldnt find the actual app? __________________ Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real.

May 7, 2005, 01:47 AM	#4
Balin64 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In a Mauve Dream	I want a screenshot! Seriously: Congratulations. I've had Chess in check many times but I have never beat it. Maybe I should take another crack at it! Does anyone else prefer the Jaguar version of Chess? The Panther version was too showy in my opinion... __________________ The Sun has wept Rose in the shell of your ear... And Man has bled back at your sovereign side. -Rimbaud

May 7, 2005, 02:16 AM	#7
mad jew Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide, Australia	I didn't realise the game was so notoriously hard. I just thought I really sucked at chess. Congratulations! __________________ Some things are better mad...

May 7, 2005, 01:49 AM	#6
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	I wonder how Kasparov would do against Tiger Chess on the hardest settings.

May 7, 2005, 02:40 AM	#9
ksz macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA	As I recall, Kasparov finally lost to Deep Thought or one of its successors. It was not an easy victory for the machine; Kasparov, I think, succumbed to fatigue during the long matches. If he were younger he may have beaten it soundly. However, Kasparov acknowledged that the best computer programs will begin to defeat the best human players consistently within 5 years, turning chess into a "solved problem." Will that reduce chess to a mere mathematical algorithm, a solvable problem, and rob the fun out of the game? Once we figuresd out that tic tac toe can always end in draw or Rubik's cube can always be solved in a programmatic way, we lost interest in those games. Kasparov has publicly wondered whether that might happen to his beloved game as well.

Nov 12, 2006, 03:03 PM	#10
Josias macrumors 68000 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denmark	Sorry to brag and revive an old thread, but unless you guys hadn't upgraded to Tiger at the time, and Panthers chess was smarter, I think I'm very good at Chess. I just beat it on hardest in 7 minutes. Wiped out his every piece on the board, except the king. How come? __________________ Use MRoogle. Listen to Ridin' Thumb

Nov 12, 2006, 03:49 PM	#13
SC68Cal macrumors 68000 Join Date: Feb 2006	This is why I play games like Quake 4 and Defcon...... Chess made me cry.

Nov 12, 2006, 03:55 PM	#14
XnavxeMiyyep macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Massachusetts	To my knowledge, Chess in Tiger, at least at the lowest difficulty, is not as difficult as Chess in Panther or Jaguar. They probably realized it was slaughtering all the average Chess players (like me) and decided to give us a break. __________________ I have a 14" dock.

Nov 12, 2006, 03:59 PM	#15
lazyboy922 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV	We found Bobby Fisher!

Nov 12, 2006, 04:21 PM	#16
sysiphus macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2006	Congrats...always fun to win. But as previously stated, it was a better challenge in pervious versions of X. I almost wish I could run an older version on my MBP so I could have a challenge again...

Nov 20, 2006, 04:36 PM	#17
mcshyd macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2006	I Just beat mac chess on OSX 10.4.8 on the strongest setting, and i'm a little disappointed. I realized that if i open with the kings pawn and go into an early queen gambit, the computer takes it, every time. This leaves me with early control of the center, along with better positioning of my knights. I started at the easiest setting, and kept going up in increments. I figured I would continue to play at the level that beat me first. except, it never did. BOO. I didn't pay 2500 dollars for a computer thats more of an idiot than I am.

Nov 20, 2006, 04:44 PM	#19
mcshyd macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2006	yeah, i guess it wasn't funny.

Nov 20, 2006, 04:47 PM	#20
yellow Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I love you, food.	Perhaps you should have purchased a WOPR? I hear it's pretty good at games.

Nov 20, 2006, 04:51 PM	#21
mcshyd macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2006	um, that's a ridiculous reference, and I feel ashamed to have gotten it.

Nov 20, 2006, 05:37 PM	#23
satty macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: You can't beat Wellington on a good day	Congratulations What settings did you use? I prefer to play with Black and use the "Regular" option. In my opinion this program is useless with those settings. However if the computer is playing Black I definitely struggle. Give this one a try on your Mac: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by satty : Nov 20, 2006 at 05:40 PM. Reason: Got confused with Black and White?????

Nov 20, 2006, 05:56 PM	#25
mcshyd macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2006	I played white with the regular settings. Perhaps I should try one of the variants... Do you know how the variants change the gameplay? Satty, you down for a game? Last edited by mcshyd : Nov 20, 2006 at 06:02 PM.

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