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Old Feb 16, 2012, 04:50 PM   #1
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Will OSX Mountain Lion be free?

It sounds crazy I know, but I feel like OSX is getting to the point where ML may be a free upgrade from Lion. It seems like they are heading the route of iOS.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 04:53 PM   #2
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 04:54 PM   #3
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Many tech sites briefed by Apple are reporting it as a "paid update", so unlikely at best. For example The Verge here.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 04:54 PM   #4
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$29 in the Mac App Store, good for all your Macs that it will run on.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 05:00 PM   #5
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I sure hope not. Apple's developers and the company itself deserve to get paid.

Enough with all this FREE Entitlement drivel.

I don't care what it costs, I care how it performs. Period.
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^100 billion in cash reserves is not considered payment.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 05:06 PM   #7
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It sounds crazy I know, but I feel like OSX is getting to the point where ML may be a free upgrade from Lion. It seems like they are heading the route of iOS.
I was thinking that, too. I can't imagine it costing more than $29, but it might be a little too much to be free.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 05:07 PM   #8
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I can imagine a situation when Mac software updates become free like iOS ones. It benefits the store having developers able to require iOS 5 even now because of its widespread adoption.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 05:09 PM   #9
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I was thinking that, too. I can't imagine it costing more than $29, but it might be a little too much to be free.
I expect it'll be free otherwise how would Internet Recovery know what you're entitled to? If they're moving to the iOS model, we'll see annual major releases and it'll deprecate hardware faster than before.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 06:25 PM   #10
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To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was cheaper than the last couple of updates. So far, it doesn't feel like a "major" update, like the leap from Tiger to Leopard, or even Snow Leopard to Lion. I would bet an even cheaper price tag of $19.99.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still happily pay $29.99 for ML.
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I expect it'll be free otherwise how would Internet Recovery know what you're entitled to?
They could have pre-ML macs only be able to download Lion with Internet Recovery. Then you'd have to download ML on top of that if you bought it.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 06:40 PM   #12
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They could have pre-ML macs only be able to download Lion with Internet Recovery. Then you'd have to download ML on top of that if you bought it.
Exactly! In fact that is how it would have to work. If you sell your Mac which came with Lion, the purchaser would only be entitled to Lion and not ML even if you paid for it since App Store software licenses are non-transferrable.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 07:05 PM   #13
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Exactly! In fact that is how it would have to work. If you sell your Mac which came with Lion, the purchaser would only be entitled to Lion and not ML even if you paid for it since App Store software licenses are non-transferrable.
And yet no iPhones or iPads work remotely this way... Why should they be any different? At its heart, apple is a hardware company.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 07:42 PM   #14
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I'll be kind of upset if I have to pay for the update. I still want my money back for Lion..
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 07:48 PM   #15
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I'll be kind of upset if I have to pay for the update. I still want my money back for Lion..
You don't have to pay for anything. 10.8 is not an update but an upgrade, if you don't want it, then save your money. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade.
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They could have pre-ML macs only be able to download Lion with Internet Recovery. Then you'd have to download ML on top of that if you bought it.
uh, you know when you do internet recovery, they make you sign in? After you sign in, you could be presented with a prompt that allows you to choose between Lion and Mountain Lion...
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uh, you know when you do internet recovery, they make you sign in? After you sign in, you could be presented with a prompt that allows you to choose between Lion and Mountain Lion
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Nope.

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Old Feb 16, 2012, 08:43 PM   #19
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I think apple is making a bad decision with ML, they plan to release it jus a year after Lion, and they are concentrating their efforts in making a paid update, but there are still some known issues with wifi in Lion so now what we will have to pay to get another update when the last one doesn't even work correctly this is Crap. I think they should fix issues with lion first and stop thinking of charging more money to people for minor updates, because all the ML features are missing things in lion.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 08:46 PM   #20
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Hoping for $9.99, probably $19.99, could be $29.99. Just my guess.
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 09:00 PM   #21
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Seems like just a few integrated apps - it really should be free. Going to skip if it costs anything.
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Hoping for $9.99, probably $19.99, could be $29.99. Just my guess.
Yeah I think those are the main possibilities. And free.

Honestly I could see all 4 of those being equally likely
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And yet no iPhones or iPads work remotely this way... Why should they be any different? At its heart, apple is a hardware company.
iOS upgrades have been free (with one exception) so there is no issue there. However any apps you buy for iOS are non-transferrable, just like the Mac Store apps (and the OS X upgrades are Mac Store apps). They are all tied to your Apple ID.

Companies don't have hearts. Selling intellectual property (apps, tunes, movies) is a major profit source for Apple. The "churn" keeps developers happy, too.
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I expect it'll be free otherwise how would Internet Recovery know what you're entitled to? If they're moving to the iOS model, we'll see annual major releases and it'll deprecate hardware faster than before.
easy. Just issue a firmware update to have it download ML instead of L.
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