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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:11 AM   #1
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Dell Says He'd Sell Apple's Mac OS

Michael Dell, the founder and Chairman of Dell computer stated that Dell would be open to selling systems with Mac OS. Check out the article.

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/fastf...072719,00.html
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:17 AM   #2
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Of course he would. Why would it be a bad thing for any PC company to offer a different OS? But it won't happen, at least not yet.
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It's going to happen, it's all just a matter of time.

It might not be soon, but there will be a day when you can walz in to Best Buy and buy Mac OS (enter version here), go home, and install it on the PC you already own.

I think it's great, I don't know what all the 'heart break' is about.

Apple is in the business of making money; they're not in the business of being a 'be different, rebel, don't conform' cult.

They will ALWAYS produce top-notch stuff. But their goal is just the same as any company: distrubute that top-notch stuff to as many customers as possible.

I honestly do think there will be a day when Apple will take over the computer industry, and Mac OS will be on the majority of user-computers, in the work-places etc. Mac OS is the future of computers. All in good time
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:27 AM   #5
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It's going to happen, it's all just a matter of time.

It might not be soon, but there will be a day when you can walz in to Best Buy and buy Mac OS (enter version here), go home, and install it on the PC you already own.

I think it's great, I don't know what all the 'heart break' is about.

Apple is in the business of making money; they're not in the business of being a 'be different, rebel, don't conform' cult.

They will ALWAYS produce top-notch stuff. But their goal is just the same as any company: distrubute that top-notch stuff to as many customers as possible.

I honestly do think there will be a day when Apple will take over the computer industry, and Mac OS will be on the majority of user-computers, in the work-places etc. Mac OS is the future of computers. All in good time
I agree ... I think Steve Jobs will approach the OS differently this time around ... his previous decision helped make Microsoft what it is today. I don't think he'll make the same mistake twice.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:28 AM   #6
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I think that if Apple was to license their OS to anyone it would be with HP, seeing how they already have a relationship with them. But I doubt the chance of this happening anytime soon.. maybe, and I have my doubts, years after the processor switch is complete but not anytime sooner... at least that is my prediction. The only reason why I think apple would not do this is because it would set up competition for themselves and they are into making not only the best OS but the best computer experience.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:31 AM   #7
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Quite an interesting read. Although, from Apple's point of view.. mass selling Mac OS X like Windows would be very profitable and in a way good for us all as more software would come to the mac.

However, I often feel that we'd be jealous of this. Mac users like to keep to themselves in a way. We like to think ourselves apart.. I think we all like being in a niche market, where we can brag about our systems. I think this is why we all got a bit huffed at WWDC because part of our arguements to why Macs are better was taken away from us.

I'm the same though... but I don't know, perhaps an OS X world would be a safer and better one.
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This will never happen under Jobs. Whoever becomes CEO after him, well, that's another story.
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i would rather shoot myself than see dells with OS X
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:36 AM   #10
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i think it will happen too, but then mac becomes windows. and what does that mean for mac hardware?
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:37 AM   #11
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In an yet imaginary world, where Steve Jobs is not working anymore to Apple and the board of CEOs decided to make the very last bit of money of Jobs' legacy, I would dare to say that this is indeed possible.

If this is a matter of time...I just hope that this will not happen in the next 10 years...or at least when my new iMac gets obsolete...15 years, then ?
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I agree ... I think Steve Jobs will approach the OS differently this time around ... his previous decision helped make Microsoft what it is today. I don't think he'll make the same mistake twice.
Steve's problem was he never copyrighted the OS he created. Microsoft took it and there was nothing he could do besides piss and moan.

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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:38 AM   #13
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Dell already sells Intel boxes with Linux...

While it's true that Apple would sell more copies of OS X, how much
would their development expenses go up, needing to support a broader
spectrum of hardware? And if Dell is just going to build boxes to Apple's
spec, what's in it for Apple? Why wouldn't they want to capture whatever
profit is in the hardware for themselves?

Hard to see how this would benefit Apple, unless they have manufacturing
constraints. With Intel inside (ahem), shouldn't one of the major bottlenecks
be gone?

How hard would it be for them to port OS X to Sparc? Maybe Apple should
buy Sun, given Sun's depressed stock price.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:38 AM   #14
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I just cant see Dells w/ OS X in them. It's like putting a BMW engine in a Hyundai. I can see them, however, selling Apple computers. That would make a lot of sense for Apple.
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that would be really scary. i hope apple stays with what they have.

(i just realized i am spending half my free time on a rumor site for a company.. i need a life)
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Steve Jobs has made it clear that Apple is a hardware company, not a software company,
Didn't he say its about software?
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:40 AM   #17
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Whilst its not going to happen under Jobs, I don't think this is negative.

It shows that OSX has made a positive on other PC manufacturers and would, in theory be billing to license it - so there is a potential market for this.

Personally, I can't see why this story would be negative.
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wont happen, yes Apple is in the business of making money, but they make much more money off their hardware sales than off their software sales. maybe once Jobs is no longer with Apple then something like this would happen, but its not going to happen anytime soon, plus they know that one of the reasons that OS X is such good quality is because they control the hardware that it is being put on, unlike Windows....
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:40 AM   #19
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In today's day and age the issue is satisfying Wall Street. There is no longer as much emphasis placed on innovation, ease of use, and overall user experience. Today companies worry about their quarterly and yearly earnings reports because it's now an era of satisfying Wall Street and investors. If a company fails to meet expectations, lowers growth prospects and/or revenue guidance, or gives any indication that "things are just not right" within the company the STOCK GETS HAMMERED.

I think Apple is now a "Wall Street Centric" company. The iPod began the shift and the Intel switch continues the trend. Apple's objective is to satisfy Wall Street by growing both the top and bottom line ... it's all about unit sales, profitability, and margins.
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I just cant see Dells w/ OS X in them. It's like putting a BMW engine in a Hyundai. I can see them, however, selling Apple computers. That would make a lot of sense for Apple.
it would be more accurate to, say, have a situation where you have a toyota engine in a BMW-produced car.

(ie. the New Mini Diesel is an example of that)

i can see pcs shipping with macosx...

apple hardware is nice enough to still sell alongside most pc hardware. if you ask me.
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Apple won't sell OS X standalone. They will continue as they have, except people won't be afraid to buy a Mac any more because if they don't like it, they can just install Windows and still have a cool looking box.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 11:47 AM   #23
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Could happen

1) Dell is the world's largest computer seller
2) "Nobody gets fired for buying from Dell"
3) Dell has the imprimature of the corporate market
4) Dell can scale better
5) Dell can cover the "cheap end" of the market
6) Dell can, in short, help increase market share especially in corporations, which is kinda vital, because with the under-2% corporate share right now, schools are sayin' ya gotta get Windows.
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Michael Dell wants to be Steve Jobs, Exhibit 3,291.
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Damn, all you people are funny!

This would probablly be one of the greatest things to happen for OS X ever!
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