RIM's BlackBerry Loses Top Spot to iPhone in its Home Canadian Market

MacRumors · Mar 22, 2012, 09:58 AM

Bloomberg reports that Apple's iPhone surpassed RIM's BlackBerry as the number one in Canadian smartphone shipments in 2011. RIM is based in Canada and has had strong loyalty amongst its customers.

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RIM, based in Waterloo, Ontario, shipped 2.08 million BlackBerrys last year in Canada, compared with 2.85 million units for Apple, data compiled by IDC and Bloomberg show. In 2010, the BlackBerry topped the iPhone by half a million, and in 2008, the year after the iPhone's debut, RIM outsold Apple by almost five to one.

RIM has been on a decline since the launch of the iPhone and Android platforms with sales and profits dropping. RIM's worldwide numbers have been dropping precipitously in contrast to significant grown from iOS and Android.

Article Link: RIM's BlackBerry Loses Top Spot to iPhone in its Home Canadian Market

TheBronx · Mar 22, 2012, 10:00 AM

the only surprising thing about this is that RIM was actually still in first place somewhere hehe

FFArchitect · Mar 22, 2012, 10:01 AM

What's a Blackberry?

Sora · Mar 22, 2012, 10:02 AM

Yup. I think RIM is about well done. Matter of fact, they have been done for a while now.

Gooberton · Mar 22, 2012, 10:02 AM

Blackberry has absolutely no shot of return to the top, ever

Junipr · Mar 22, 2012, 10:03 AM

Remember when people insisted on a hard QWERTY? LOL!

caligomez · Mar 22, 2012, 10:03 AM

The beginning of the end...

notabadname · Mar 22, 2012, 10:03 AM

You snooze, you loose.

AustinIllini · Mar 22, 2012, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooberton

Blackberry has absolutely no shot of return to the top, ever

Agreed. There's really nothing they can do at this point. I can't imagine being in a position like that. What else do they do?

chuckles:) · Mar 22, 2012, 10:04 AM

I live around the corner from that building!

MarlboroLite · Mar 22, 2012, 10:04 AM

The blackberry crop will only continue to rot even further....

AbSoluTc · Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM

What did Rim think would happen producing the same handset over and over and over again giving it minor hardware improvements and a somewhat different numbered name? No innovation on their part. When they did have something different, they became complacent. BB Storm anyone? BB Playbook?

Sorry Rim but you can't just wait for something to happen, you have to MAKE IT HAPPEN! Good bye

unr1 · Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM

Blackberry Storm: iPhone killer... LOL

Amazing Iceman · Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM

Goodbye RIM, we'll RIMmember your Blackberries in a museum.

nwcs · Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM

No, RIM can recover but their only shot is to innovate their way out of their quagmire. But in the short term their best opportunity is a strategic partnership with a big player similar to what Microsoft is attempting with Nokia.

thejadedmonkey · Mar 22, 2012, 10:07 AM

So many people on this forum are taking pleasure in what will eventually amount to a lot of job losses

Shrink · 11:08 AM

Sounds like RIM may not be long for this world if they can't sell well in their own country.

Of course, we all know that those Canadians really want to be Americans!!

(Oh boy...here it comes.

)

dwman · Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooberton

Blackberry has absolutely no shot of return to the top, ever

Many thought the same about Apple in the 90's. Not saying it will, but with the right kind of leadership they could have a nice turnaround. Current leadership is what's killing them now.

Anti-Lucifer · Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 AM

I recall distinctly - users will not buy an iPhone because there is no QWERTY keyboard of some sort to physically type on.

When android phones had a keyboard, people targeted the iPhone and said it would fail because it has no physical keyboard. Now nearly all new android devices don't even have a physical keyboard.

They use to complain about the physical home button on the iPhone as well. Now near all android devices use the same similar home button.

Followers will always follow and survive. Those that don't follow or innovate (like RIM) will just fade into oblivion and die off.

yly3 · Mar 22, 2012, 10:13 AM

To be honest, I really wanted to buy a 9900 late last year after just buying my 4S. It really looked cool and it had that iPhone 4 allure when it was launched, don't know why.
Unfortunately it had huge issues with battery and software. Pitty..

And no matter fanboys say, QWERTY is still the way to go if you are into texting. After more than a year after my touch transition, I still cannot type as fast as on my Nokia E71.
I had 4.3 phone, 4.0 phone and iPhone(s).
I was sometimes typing faster than on my laptop. People were oftently asking me if I was home typing from my laptop lol.

I think I will get a 9900 when it will reach some 150-200$ value. It's nice to have a piece of history and I also miss the qwerty.
I still love my iPhone though the most.

thekeyring · Mar 22, 2012, 10:13 AM

The thing that iOS and Android have over Blackberry is this: Apps. You can actually code a decent application with iOS or Android.

Try editing a photo on a tiny, low-res, non-touch screen BB, or coding a good video editor app that will run smoothly. Even BlackBerry's own app world is laggy on my phone.

What new handsets, software and OSes are RIM releasing to solve these problems? Anything? No.

I use it only for texts and calls. Will buy an iPod touch asap to get all the usable, productive iOS apps.

colmaclean · Mar 22, 2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckles:)

I live around the corner from that building!

That is one ugly building.

And to cap it off, coloured in three shades of *****.

techsmith · Mar 22, 2012, 10:18 AM

Agreed they have a snowball's chance in hell of returning back to the top, however I believe they have a chance at becoming a strong number three. Their Playbook is actually really nice after the 2.0 OS upgrade. It addresses the obvious shortcomings such as the missing email app, allows easy porting over of Android apps, and beats the crap out of iOS for multitasking. It's a steal for the $200 they sell it for now. The major issue is the lack of apps comparatively speaking, so hopefully the easy Android porting helps to solve this. Their new phones are going to be a merging of the Playbook OS and the Blackberry OS (QNX with a more Blackberry feel) and they will have models comparable to iPhone and top Android phones specification wise. I'm hoping the best for them because the more competition the better.

slicecom · Mar 22, 2012, 10:19 AM

Oh how quickly we forget... To all the people saying that RIM is doomed, Apple was much MUCH closer to doom back in 1997 than RIM is today. RIM is still highly profitable, but yes, they've obviously lost marketshare.

Though I was never interested in any of their products, it was nice having a successful Canadian company that wasn't bought out by a larger American company, at least for a few years.

Oh how I miss ATI and Nortel.

SeattleMoose · Mar 22, 2012, 10:21 AM

seems to be quickening...

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Mar 22, 2012, 10:00 AM	#2
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:02 AM	#5
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:03 AM	#6
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM	#12
AbSoluTc macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2008	What did Rim think would happen producing the same handset over and over and over again giving it minor hardware improvements and a somewhat different numbered name? No innovation on their part. When they did have something different, they became complacent. BB Storm anyone? BB Playbook? Sorry Rim but you can't just wait for something to happen, you have to MAKE IT HAPPEN! Good bye __________________ Twitter - Flickr - My Blu-ray Movies
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:06 AM	#15
nwcs macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tennessee	No, RIM can recover but their only shot is to innovate their way out of their quagmire. But in the short term their best opportunity is a strategic partnership with a big player similar to what Microsoft is attempting with Nokia. __________________ This space intentionally not blank
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:07 AM	#16
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 AM	#17
Shrink macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England, USA	Sounds like RIM may not be long for this world if they can't sell well in their own country. Of course, we all know that those Canadians really want to be Americans!! (Oh boy...here it comes. ) __________________ Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein Last edited by Doctor Q; Mar 22, 2012 at 11:08 AM. Reason: removed reply to deleted post
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 AM	#19
Anti-Lucifer macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2012	I recall distinctly - users will not buy an iPhone because there is no QWERTY keyboard of some sort to physically type on. When android phones had a keyboard, people targeted the iPhone and said it would fail because it has no physical keyboard. Now nearly all new android devices don't even have a physical keyboard. They use to complain about the physical home button on the iPhone as well. Now near all android devices use the same similar home button. Followers will always follow and survive. Those that don't follow or innovate (like RIM) will just fade into oblivion and die off.
	6

Mar 22, 2012, 10:13 AM	#20
yly3 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2011	To be honest, I really wanted to buy a 9900 late last year after just buying my 4S. It really looked cool and it had that iPhone 4 allure when it was launched, don't know why. Unfortunately it had huge issues with battery and software. Pitty.. And no matter fanboys say, QWERTY is still the way to go if you are into texting. After more than a year after my touch transition, I still cannot type as fast as on my Nokia E71. I had 4.3 phone, 4.0 phone and iPhone(s). I was sometimes typing faster than on my laptop. People were oftently asking me if I was home typing from my laptop lol. I think I will get a 9900 when it will reach some 150-200$ value. It's nice to have a piece of history and I also miss the qwerty. I still love my iPhone though the most. __________________ Dreaming about an iPod Pro
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:13 AM	#21
thekeyring macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London	The thing that iOS and Android have over Blackberry is this: Apps. You can actually code a decent application with iOS or Android. Try editing a photo on a tiny, low-res, non-touch screen BB, or coding a good video editor app that will run smoothly. Even BlackBerry's own app world is laggy on my phone. What new handsets, software and OSes are RIM releasing to solve these problems? Anything? No. I use it only for texts and calls. Will buy an iPod touch asap to get all the usable, productive iOS apps.
	1

Mar 22, 2012, 10:18 AM	#23
techsmith macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2011	Agreed they have a snowball's chance in hell of returning back to the top, however I believe they have a chance at becoming a strong number three. Their Playbook is actually really nice after the 2.0 OS upgrade. It addresses the obvious shortcomings such as the missing email app, allows easy porting over of Android apps, and beats the crap out of iOS for multitasking. It's a steal for the $200 they sell it for now. The major issue is the lack of apps comparatively speaking, so hopefully the easy Android porting helps to solve this. Their new phones are going to be a merging of the Playbook OS and the Blackberry OS (QNX with a more Blackberry feel) and they will have models comparable to iPhone and top Android phones specification wise. I'm hoping the best for them because the more competition the better.
	3

Mar 22, 2012, 10:19 AM	#24
slicecom macrumors 68000 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	Oh how quickly we forget... To all the people saying that RIM is doomed, Apple was much MUCH closer to doom back in 1997 than RIM is today. RIM is still highly profitable, but yes, they've obviously lost marketshare. Though I was never interested in any of their products, it was nice having a successful Canadian company that wasn't bought out by a larger American company, at least for a few years. Oh how I miss ATI and Nortel.
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Mar 22, 2012, 10:21 AM	#25
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