iPhone 3GS GSM... no iOS 6?

Wolffie · Jun 8, 2012, 09:56 PM

Specifically America and AT&T.

Do we suspect all the entry (FREE to $.99) smart phones sold in the past year are non upgradeable to iOS6?
It is the next model in line to be left out in the cold.
3GS came with iOS 3.0
The iPad (1st Gen) debuted with 3.2.1 right?

PurrBall · Jun 8, 2012, 10:00 PM

The only technical reason for them not to support it would be the fact that it only has 256 MB of RAM and the fact that it doesn't have a retina display, causing them to need to create two versions of all their UI elements. Other than that, I don't see any factors such as the subsidized cost being an issue, since you're really paying $350 for the phone over the term of your contract.

ValerieDurden · Jun 9, 2012, 02:57 AM

I can see ram being a factor here, that leaves all the current and previous iTouch models and even the original iPad left out due to having only 256mb. I am thinking the iPhone 4 is a bare minimum requirement for iOS 6 but I hope I am wrong.

Tea-Aholic · Jun 9, 2012, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolffie

Specifically America and AT&T.

You do realise that there is no "American" version and "International" version of the 3GS? Nor was there an "AT&T GSM" version and a "CDMA" one.

Chundles · Jun 9, 2012, 05:06 AM

I think the 3GS will be left out and iOS 6 will be Apple A(x) processors only.

DroidConvert · Jun 9, 2012, 05:25 AM

It's difficult to support a model that's 3 years old. Too many hardware differences. You really can't expect any phone over 2 years old to get much support.

WeegieMac · Jun 9, 2012, 05:31 AM

As an iPhone 4 owner, I'd be pleasantly surprised if iOS 6 ran in full (and at an acceptable level of performance) on my device. I'm crossing my fingers, but you never know what Apple's plans are.

Thankfully I'll be able to enjoy iOS 6 in full on my new iPad.

Nicolas4ever · Jun 9, 2012, 05:43 AM

The 3GS is 3 years old now maybe Apple will want to stop the support.

vistadude · Jun 9, 2012, 09:34 AM

I bet they would support the 3 GS since the processor speed is similar to the iphone 4 processor. RAM is lower but it took iOS5 without major slowdowns.

VulchR · Jun 9, 2012, 09:44 AM

I thought somewhere in Apple's corporate documents that they have to declare to FTC, SEC, FCC or some other government entity (I cannot remember which) that Apple stated they intend to provide system support each model typically for 2 years. It sounds to me like this means the 3GS won't get iOS 6.

andybno1 · Jun 9, 2012, 10:15 AM

I'm going with no 3gs support with iOS 6 all but original iPhone have had 2 versions of iOS.

iEnvy · Jun 9, 2012, 10:19 AM

Doubt it. Sorry dude

chambone · Jun 9, 2012, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas4ever

The 3GS is 3 years old now maybe Apple will want to stop the support.

Yes, but they still sell it, so I am not so sure that argument is very solid. As I see it, the only reason to deny the 3GS iOS 6 support are hardware restrictions, the 256MB RAM specifically. If that turns out not to be a concern, I expect Apple to actually make iOS 6 available for the 3GS. If only to show the competition how supporting your products is done.

Calidude · Jun 9, 2012, 10:37 AM

If you guys think the 3GS is getting iOS6 you are living in a dream world.

lordofthereef · 11:15 AM

I don't want them to support the 3GS any longer. Why? Because we have been getting steadily better hardware already for the past three years but everything is developed to still run properly on these legacy devices. What's the point of new hardware if you are going to bottleneck due to the old stuff?

Scholzpdx · Jun 9, 2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calidude

If you guys think the 3GS is getting iOS6 you are living in a dream world.

Wasn't the same said about the 3GS getting iOS 5?

samia// · 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholzpdx

Wasn't the same said about the 3GS getting iOS 5?

yes i am totally agree with u that Scholzpdx;14987648. but the jave language is not same.

CNA

rjohnstone · Jun 9, 2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iEnvy

Doubt it. Sorry dude Image

Nice Photoshop.

luked14 · Jun 9, 2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iEnvy

Doubt it. Sorry dude Image

Woah, you're from the future!

andybno1 · Jun 9, 2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohnstone

Nice Photoshop.

question is how many people logged on to their developer account to check after seeing the image lol

Spectrum Abuser · Jun 9, 2012, 01:08 PM

This is a really hard call actually.

Both the iPhone 3G(s) and iPhone 4 have the exact same processor and graphical chipset. The only difference is that the 4's hardware got a Mhz boost to help power the Retina display. eDRAM on the 3G(s) is 256MB, though, while the iPhone 4 has 512MB. If that were the only determining factor the original iPad and iPod Touch 4th('10-'11 models) would also not be getting iOS 6.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chundles

I think the 3GS will be left out and iOS 6 will be Apple A(x) processors only.

The iPhone 3G(s) and iPhone 4 shared the same Cortex-A8 processor.

chrf097 · 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

I'm going with no 3gs support with iOS 6 all but original iPhone have had 2 versions of iOS.

No, every iPhone has had 3 versions. The third version they recieved had limitations that the other new models didn't get (I.E iOs 4.0 on the iPhone 3G did not get multitasking).

Following this, The iPhone 4 will have some limitations on iOS 6 (That'll probably relate to the maps) where as the iPhone 4S and 6th generation iPhones will support iOS 6 fully.

EDIT: Looks like the 3GS is getting iOS 6.0. This means that Apple is probably extending iOS support on iPhones to 4 versions instead of 3! That means my 4S is going to last me a full year longer!

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

question is how many people logged on to their developer account to check after seeing the image lol

I know I did

Applejuiced · Jun 9, 2012, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholzpdx

Wasn't the same said about the 3GS getting iOS 5?

No, the same thing was said for the iphone 3G.
And they dropped support for it with 5.0
And this year they will drop support for the 3GS and next year stop support for the iphone 4 with ios 7.0 etc....

Briax · Jun 9, 2012, 02:48 PM

Did i get something wrong? I thought the iPhone 4 had a 800 MHz processor, where as the 3GS had a 600 MHz? Just asking since quite a few of you, state that they have the same processor?

Wolffie · 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tea-Aholic

You do realise that there is no "American" version and "International" version of the 3GS? Nor was there an "AT&T GSM" version and a "CDMA" one.

I realize that this is an international community.
"America", not "American", and "AT&T" refer to the users, consumers, current buyers, etc. not the device. AT&T currently sell the 3GS. If iOS 6 is not available to those purchasers, then those purchasers will not be able to upgrade their software. A common stated benefit of purchasing an iPhone is Apple updates the software, unlike other phone manufactures. So, those purchasers are not retaining that benefit. Unfortunate fact (maybe, don't know yet).

I am not knowledgeable about other nations cellular sales plans.
I do not know if they sell 3GS. I remember the 3GS being listed #3 or #5 most popular/sold smartphone. I do know some cellular service providers have sold the iPhone 4 free with the long-term contract.

I see you are from Melbourne, Australia. One of my favorite places, very beautiful. Could you give any details about the 3GS sales of Australia?

As far as my description of the phone as GSM, yes, overly descriptive. You have me there.

I hope I have clarified statements better now.

Thank you for your comments.

Jun 8, 2012, 09:56 PM	#1
Wolffie macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2008	iPhone 3GS GSM... no iOS 6? Specifically America and AT&T. Do we suspect all the entry (FREE to $.99) smart phones sold in the past year are non upgradeable to iOS6? It is the next model in line to be left out in the cold. 3GS came with iOS 3.0 The iPad (1st Gen) debuted with 3.2.1 right?
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Jun 8, 2012, 10:00 PM	#2
PurrBall macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maine	The only technical reason for them not to support it would be the fact that it only has 256 MB of RAM and the fact that it doesn't have a retina display, causing them to need to create two versions of all their UI elements. Other than that, I don't see any factors such as the subsidized cost being an issue, since you're really paying $350 for the phone over the term of your contract. __________________ iMac 24" 2.93 GHz C2D \| MacBook Pro 15" 2.2 GHz i7 \| iPhone 4S 16 GB White
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Jun 9, 2012, 05:31 AM	#7
WeegieMac macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Glasgow, UK	As an iPhone 4 owner, I'd be pleasantly surprised if iOS 6 ran in full (and at an acceptable level of performance) on my device. I'm crossing my fingers, but you never know what Apple's plans are. Thankfully I'll be able to enjoy iOS 6 in full on my new iPad. __________________ 20" iMac, 2.4GHz C2D - iPhone 4S 16GB - iPad 3 64GB WiFi + Cellular.
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Jun 9, 2012, 05:43 AM	#8
Nicolas4ever macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2010	The 3GS is 3 years old now maybe Apple will want to stop the support. __________________
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Jun 9, 2012, 09:34 AM	#9
vistadude macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2010	I bet they would support the 3 GS since the processor speed is similar to the iphone 4 processor. RAM is lower but it took iOS5 without major slowdowns.
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Jun 9, 2012, 02:57 AM	#3
ValerieDurden macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA	I can see ram being a factor here, that leaves all the current and previous iTouch models and even the original iPad left out due to having only 256mb. I am thinking the iPhone 4 is a bare minimum requirement for iOS 6 but I hope I am wrong. __________________ Sprint iPhone 5 6.1.2 Jailbroken
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Jun 9, 2012, 05:06 AM	#5
Chundles macrumors G4 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Gong, Australia	I think the 3GS will be left out and iOS 6 will be Apple A(x) processors only. __________________ This is going straight to the Pool Room
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Jun 9, 2012, 05:25 AM	#6
DroidConvert Banned Join Date: May 2012	It's difficult to support a model that's 3 years old. Too many hardware differences. You really can't expect any phone over 2 years old to get much support.
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Jun 9, 2012, 09:44 AM	#10
VulchR macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Scotland	I thought somewhere in Apple's corporate documents that they have to declare to FTC, SEC, FCC or some other government entity (I cannot remember which) that Apple stated they intend to provide system support each model typically for 2 years. It sounds to me like this means the 3GS won't get iOS 6. __________________ My first was a Mac+. Now I own an iPhone with 3.5x the pixels, a colour display, WiFi, 512x the RAM, >1500x the data storage, and 100x the speed. And it fits in the palm of my hand.
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Jun 9, 2012, 10:15 AM	#11
andybno1 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool, UK	I'm going with no 3gs support with iOS 6 all but original iPhone have had 2 versions of iOS. Attached Thumbnails
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Jun 9, 2012, 10:19 AM	#12
iEnvy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: 'Murica	Doubt it. Sorry dude __________________ [iPhone 5 32 GB l iPad 16 GB 1st Gen l RMBP (2012) -2.6Ghz/512GB/16GB]
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Jun 9, 2012, 10:37 AM	#14
Calidude Banned Join Date: Jun 2010	If you guys think the 3GS is getting iOS6 you are living in a dream world.
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Jun 9, 2012, 10:53 AM	#15
lordofthereef macrumors 601 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Boston, MA	I don't want them to support the 3GS any longer. Why? Because we have been getting steadily better hardware already for the past three years but everything is developed to still run properly on these legacy devices. What's the point of new hardware if you are going to bottleneck due to the old stuff? __________________ I use iOS and Android daily and, more recently, Windows Phone 8. If what I say upsets you, it's probably because of your brand loyalty. Last edited by lordofthereef; Jun 9, 2012 at 11:15 AM.
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Jun 9, 2012, 02:48 PM	#24
Briax macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2011	Did i get something wrong? I thought the iPhone 4 had a 800 MHz processor, where as the 3GS had a 600 MHz? Just asking since quite a few of you, state that they have the same processor?
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