Apple Expands Testing of OS X Mountain Lion to Select Retail Store Staff

Interesting, AFAIK this is the first time they've done this. I suppose it will help for training purposes, though Apple Store employees are aided in that ML is mostly the same as Lion, with a few refinements.

It would be great to be able to have a sneak peak of mountain lion!

So regular employees now serve as beta testers as well?

What a great perk!

This makes me think about how Google rolls out services. "You're invited!". If only Apple Staff could invite us to join in

I really hope there is one Apple employee out there who can feedback the dual screening issue with fullscreen apps that is currently such a bane in Lion. I seriously hope there's a fix to this in Mountain Lion! Pleeeeease?

DrJohnnyN said:

What a great perk!

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You can buy that perk for $100. Just sign up for the developer program.

gpat said:

So regular employees now serve as beta testers as well?

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Developers focus on debugging, noticing performance issues and their causes, etc.
"Regular" users, such as Apple Store employees, will look at the Mac OS X and report daily-usage bugs and inconveniences.

I think it's pretty cool.

I wonder if they'll release a much more expensive USB version like last time?

Or maybe they think a year is enough time for everyone to have gotten high-speed internet....

I'm thinking the GM is ready for release with this happening...

MacRumors said:

With OS X Mountain Lion being a Mac App Store exclusive, Apple can continue to work on the operating system until relatively close to the launch date given that it does not need to build in time for pressing millions of DVDs

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The ability to fix last minute bugs and shorter lead times. Another nice benefit of digital delivery systems like the Mac App Store.

mogzieee said:

I really hope there is one Apple employee out there who can feedback the dual screening issue with fullscreen apps that is currently such a bane in Lion. I seriously hope there's a fix to this in Mountain Lion! Pleeeeease?

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I am running developer preview 4 with the latest update that came out earlier this week. What is the issue you are having so I can see if it still exists?

hirshnoc said:

I wonder if they'll release a much more expensive USB version like last time?

Or maybe they think a year is enough time for everyone to have gotten high-speed internet....

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Although I agree it is a hassle for some people, you have to admit that Apple is really pushing/leading the cloud industry. Abandoning optical discs, while making Macs even more popular, lets Apple put some pressure on internet providers!

Great I can't wait, looking forward to the increase in iCloud support. Though, I still wish it had a file system in the cloud.

Does anyone know if 'Documents in the Cloud' supports any type of folder option, or does it just show all your files in one list when the application launches?

I like to keep my pages documents in folders, for example a resume folder.

ghostface147 said:

I am running developer preview 4 with the latest update that came out earlier this week. What is the issue you are having so I can see if it still exists?

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I think his issue is this: Let's say you have multiple monitors, say a 27" display and a 17" MacBook Display... you're doing work on the 27" but want to use the full-screen feature of an app on the 17" display. You click the icon in the upper-right to make it full screen and it turns your 27" display into a huge screen of linen!

If you could full-screen apps on one display and still allow you to have access to working on the other display, that would be tremendous, but as of now (Lion), you can't.

mogzieee said:

I really hope there is one Apple employee out there who can feedback the dual screening issue with fullscreen apps that is currently such a bane in Lion. I seriously hope there's a fix to this in Mountain Lion! Pleeeeease?

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http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html#system

Looks like it is fixed; check the first feature under system.

syndalis said:

http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html#system

Looks like it is fixed; check the first feature under system.

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It's not, the second display goes grey when you do that.

There is a Thread in the 10.8 Forum here about it, in short: It's fixed, it should work like one would expect it.

It's about Fing time. I hated it when I was working the Genius bar when a new OS came out because none of us knew anything about it or saw it.

The only thing I care about is performance and stability improvements. Lion is a bloated and buggy disaster. Every day I use my Mac I regret "up" grading from Snow Leopard. The longer I use Lion the more I hate it and I've loved every previous OS X release to date. I'm really hoping Mountain Lion fixes this mess.

Wild Idea

Ya know, it'd be cool if they expanded prerelease versions to like one device per apple store. So there could possibly be a MacBook Pro running the gm of mountain lion and an iPad running the beta of IOS 6. All just so more people become familiar with what's coming so they feel inclined to update. Not everyone watches the keynote and even fewer actually use an iOS or OSX beta before release.

ckelley said:

I think his issue is this: Let's say you have multiple monitors, say a 27" display and a 17" MacBook Display... you're doing work on the 27" but want to use the full-screen feature of an app on the 17" display. You click the icon in the upper-right to make it full screen and it turns your 27" display into a huge screen of linen!

If you could full-screen apps on one display and still allow you to have access to working on the other display, that would be tremendous, but as of now (Lion), you can't.

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Actually it turns your 27" display into a usable second monitor for any extra windows or panels for that particular full screened app. If it instead worked the way you described, there would be no way to get those additional panels or windows on the second monitor without other stuff cluttering in the background while in full screen. Thus defeating one of the main purposes of full screen mode.

Of course most people don't realize that full screen mode in Lion allows full screen apps to have secondary windows and panels displayed on the second monitor so they think the second monitor can't be used for anything while in full screen when that isn't really the case.

Apple needs to make people more aware of that functionality. And a lot of app developers haven't enabled that functionality in their apps yet so they are at fault as well.

Also in Mountain Lion, you can now choose to have the main window on either monitor with the additional content for the app on the other monitor. So the 27" will be filled with the app itself and the 17" will contain the inspector panels or whatever else while in full screen.

mogzieee said:

I really hope there is one Apple employee out there who can feedback the dual screening issue with fullscreen apps that is currently such a bane in Lion. I seriously hope there's a fix to this in Mountain Lion! Pleeeeease?

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It's been stated in the gm beta that mountain lion provides users with the ability to run multiple full screen apps on multiple monitors.

Mattie Num Nums said:

It's about Fing time. I hated it when I was working the Genius bar when a new OS came out because none of us knew anything about it or saw it.

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That's probably the best thing about this plan... I would imagine that could be a major hassle.