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Old Sep 22, 2012, 02:25 AM   #1
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Unhappy Verizon iPhone 5 No Contract - How to get T-Mobile Prepaid to work?

Okay, this might sound strange but I have a confusing problem.

Since I'm new in the USA, I couldn't get AT&T or Verizon to give me a contract.
Being an Apple fan and wanting to get my hands on the iPhone 5 the first day, I decided to buy the phone for $749 - On Verizon but no contract - not activated.

The rep asked me to try getting a Verizon prepaid and getting it activated on the phone. I already have a T-Mobile prepaid that works on a Samsung Galaxy phone. I'm trying to see if I can get the T-Mobile sim (not nano) to work on the iPhone, hearing all the "unlocked" stories.

If not, what's the best possible way out?

- Can I get a Verizon prepaid (without buying a new phone, just the SIM) and get it activated on the new phone?
- Should I return the iPhone and wait for unlocked ones to be out?
- Should I sell off the phone to someone else out side US may be?

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Old Sep 22, 2012, 02:27 AM   #2
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Okay, this might sound strange but I have a confusing problem.

Since I'm new in the USA, I couldn't get AT&T or Verizon to give me a contract.
Being an Apple fan and wanting to get my hands on the iPhone 5 the first day, I decided to buy the phone for $749 - On Verizon but no contract - not activated.

The rep asked me to try getting a Verizon prepaid and getting it activated on the phone. I already have a T-Mobile prepaid that works on a Samsung Galaxy phone. I'm trying to see if I can get the T-Mobile sim (not nano) to work on the iPhone, hearing all the "unlocked" stories.

If not, what's the best possible way out?

- Can I get a Verizon prepaid (without buying a new phone, just the SIM) and get it activated on the new phone?
- Should I return the iPhone and wait for unlocked ones to be out?
- Should I sell off the phone to someone else out side US may be?

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You can attempt to cut down the SIM there have been some reports of it working. I think tmobile is suppose to get in nano sims sometime next month.
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Old Sep 22, 2012, 02:46 AM   #3
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Okay, this might sound strange but I have a confusing problem.

Since I'm new in the USA, I couldn't get AT&T or Verizon to give me a contract.
Being an Apple fan and wanting to get my hands on the iPhone 5 the first day, I decided to buy the phone for $749 - On Verizon but no contract - not activated.

The rep asked me to try getting a Verizon prepaid and getting it activated on the phone. I already have a T-Mobile prepaid that works on a Samsung Galaxy phone. I'm trying to see if I can get the T-Mobile sim (not nano) to work on the iPhone, hearing all the "unlocked" stories.

If not, what's the best possible way out?

- Can I get a Verizon prepaid (without buying a new phone, just the SIM) and get it activated on the new phone?
- Should I return the iPhone and wait for unlocked ones to be out?
- Should I sell off the phone to someone else out side US may be?

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wait and used it as a wifi device for 30 days than return once the factory unlocked comes out so you won't have any issues or worry about these steps
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 02:05 PM   #4
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Hi, did you figure out a solution yet? I thought the Verizon phones come unlocked... I'm not sure they use the same LTE bands as AT&T and other US operators, so the phone may not support LTE but 3G should work.

How were you able to buy an iPhone 5 without a contract though? I thought Apple was only selling them with contracts at the moment. Did you buy it from Apple or directy from Verizon?
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 02:32 PM   #5
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All stores will sell them with or without contract - it's just that Best Buy, Radio Shack and carriers add $50 (in BB, RS ..) or more (in Sprint's case when I called) for each unsubsidized model. You'll save $50 with Apple Store.

With or without contract, the Verizon iP5 is unlock, AT&T iP5 is unlock without contract.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 08:12 PM   #6
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I was thinking of going to the Apple Store next week to get the new iPhone. I understand the Verizon iPhone is unlocked.

As for the nano SIM card, there are videos on youtube showing you how to cut the SIM card.

But how would you activate the iPhone without a Verizon plan? I'm sorry, I've never had an iPhone before so I'm not sure how this activation process works.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 09:57 PM   #7
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Verizon phones are incompatible with Tmobile's network. Verizon uses CDMA technology and Tmobile uses GSM.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 10:11 PM   #8
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Verizon phones are incompatible with Tmobile's network. Verizon uses CDMA technology and Tmobile uses GSM.
Please stop spreading misinformation, the new iPhone for VZW has GSM and CDMA in it and it has been proven to work with AT&T on HSPA+ so it will work on T-Mo as well, as far as activating it not sure, maybe have the vzw store activate it for you then, take out the sim and then put the TMo sim in?
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 10:11 PM   #9
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Verizon phones are incompatible with Tmobile's network. Verizon uses CDMA technology and Tmobile uses GSM.
You sir...are wrong.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 11:12 PM   #10
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All stores will sell them with or without contract - it's just that Best Buy, Radio Shack and carriers add $50 (in BB, RS ..) or more (in Sprint's case when I called) for each unsubsidized model. You'll save $50 with Apple Store.

With or without contract, the Verizon iP5 is unlock, AT&T iP5 is unlock without contract.
Bestbuy price matches most people don't bother asking.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 11:17 PM   #11
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Bestbuy price matches most people don't bother asking.
They will price match if competitor has stock available of the same model & color (they pulled this stunt / double check with competitor on me as everyone is sold out or about the same price and there's no Apple Store in the area).

I don't really like the 32GB on Sprint so for that price, I walked away and will wait for the exact model, color and carrier.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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Does AT&T's iPhone use GSM and CDMA or just GSM?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:05 AM   #13
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Does AT&T's iPhone use GSM and CDMA or just GSM?
just GSM
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:10 AM   #14
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I don't know if I should purchase the AT&T iPhone or the Verizon one. I heard that both are unlock if you purchase the phone full price. Which phone is more compatible with T-mobile?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:16 PM   #15
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Please help me how to activate Verizon iPhone 5 Purchased without contract in Europe? I purchase it in USA and I need activate it in Europe. Thanks
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:44 PM   #16
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Please help me how to activate Verizon iPhone 5 Purchased without contract in Europe? I purchase it in USA and I need activate it in Europe. Thanks
Are you now in europe or in usa?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:48 PM   #17
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I am now in USA in sunday I go to europe
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:57 PM   #18
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Please stop spreading misinformation, the new iPhone for VZW has GSM and CDMA in it and it has been proven to work with AT&T on HSPA+ so it will work on T-Mo as well, as far as activating it not sure, maybe have the vzw store activate it for you then, take out the sim and then put the TMo sim in?
Well problem is T-Mobile doesnt have nano sim yet. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...one-5s-report/

So when t-mobile has the nano sims avail, just pop it in and a T-mobile sim will work in a VZW iphone 5 given that you are in a city that has T-Mobile HSPA+ otherwise you will get edge only until t-mobile finishes it's 1900mhz HSPA+ rollout.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:19 PM   #19
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I am now in USA in sunday I go to europe
If you have already your nano sim or you sim cutted, go into an apple store insert your sim into the iPhone, turn on it and use the apple store wifi to activate the phone
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:23 PM   #20
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:24 PM   #21
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Verizon is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM. I don't think it will work. I brought in an unlocked 4 from Apple and the first thing t-Mobile asked me if it was 'unlocked'; unlocked meaning from Apple not from another carrier.
Verizon iPhone 5s are unlocked, and support both CDMA and GSM.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:25 PM   #22
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Verizon iPhone 5s are unlocked, and support both CDMA and GSM.
Did not know this. Ok. Thanks.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:30 PM   #23
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Anyone looking to use the phone on tmobile should buy the ATT version because it will be compatible with tmobile's LTE network when that comes out (probably late 2013), in addition to the HSPA+ when the refarm is complete. The Verizon version will never be able to use LTE. As far as unlocked or not, you can get one on ebay for about $8 so it's hardly a deal breaker.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:46 PM   #24
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If you have already your nano sim or you sim cutted, go into an apple store insert your sim into the iPhone, turn on it and use the apple store wifi to activate the phone
Thanks. It is possible also activate in Europe? Or only in US apple store? I have a two iPhones and one is a gift.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 01:18 PM   #25
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Thanks. It is possible also activate in Europe? Or only in US apple store? I have a two iPhones and one is a gift.
Hi,
I am in a similar situation. I am planning on buying the iPhone from Verizon. Can you activate the Verizon iPhone from Europe with out a Verizon service? With a european SIM?
Were you able to activate the phone without being on verizon's network?
Thanks!
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