30 million iPhone 5 sold and only a few are reporting bend, scratch and camera issues

lke · Nov 28, 2012, 09:34 PM

I have read that over 30 million iphone 5 has been sold to this date. If the bend, scratch and camera issues are as bad as we read here why there is not many people speaking about this.

Maybe the first production of the iphone 5 was bad and then Apple make some changes to have better quality.

Could it be that some people are overreacting to the issues of the iphone 5?

What do you think about this?

Spink10 · Nov 28, 2012, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lke

I have read that over 30 million iphone 5 has been sold to this date. If the bend, scratch and camera issues are as bad as we read here why there is not many people speaking about this.

Maybe the first production of the iphone 5 was bad and then Apple make some changes to have better quality.

Could it be that some people are overreacting to the issues of the iphone 5?

What do you think about this?

Yes

Minhimalism · Nov 28, 2012, 09:38 PM

Most people don't even care about small nicks and stuff.. They just get the phone and then use it. The problem just seems exacerbated because people here on forums like these are more likely to bring them up (aside from the bending.. I'm sure anyone would notice and not be okay with that.)

F123D · Nov 28, 2012, 09:41 PM

I've seen plenty of scuffed and scratched iPhone 5's. The average user just doesn't notice or care.

stonyboys · Nov 29, 2012, 01:41 AM

Wow 30 million iPhones? That's almost 31 million!

Mrbobb · Nov 29, 2012, 02:34 AM

What do u expect from people who can't decide between black or white?

Interstella5555 · Nov 29, 2012, 07:54 AM

Return rate for the 4 was less than 1%, people who (think) they have issues will complain a lot more than people with devices that work.

OllyW · Nov 29, 2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lke

I have read that over 30 million iphone 5 has been sold to this date.

Where did you read that?

r2shyyou · Nov 29, 2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OllyW

Where did you read that?

It's in the thread title.

RenoG · Nov 29, 2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by r2shyyou

It's in the thread title.

that gave me a good wake up chuckle thanks.

upnorth85 · Nov 29, 2012, 08:37 AM

China overtook the US this year as the largest smart phone market in the world. In the second quarter Apple's market share halved to 10%. Wall Street Journal reported today that Apple's market share dropped to 6.9% this quarter even as Lenovo's market share increased from 1.7% to 14.8% for the quarter ending September. While I do not think quality is the reason for Apple not being successful in emerging market. I do think that Apple's strategy of using wireless providers as the default gateway for sales is one of the reasons. In much of the world, consumers buy their own phones at full price and then select a wireless provider. When the consumer is paying a full price, value for money and quality has a bigger impact. Samsung is still the market leader in China but Lenovo is expected to be the largest in China in 2013. As an Apple shareholder I would like to see Apple focus on the rest of the world including the emerging economies where the smart phone market is not yet saturated like the west. I would also like to see Apple overcome their supply chain issues and sell iPhones to all who want to buy it in the US. (Apple still does not sell unlocked iPhone 5 to customers outside of the big 3 wireless providers). No doubt it does sell iPhone 4S etc to anyone who wants to buy one.

r2shyyou · Nov 29, 2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by upnorth85

China overtook the US this year as the largest smart phone market in the world. In the second quarter Apple's market share halved to 10%. Wall Street Journal reported today that Apple's market share dropped to 6.9% this quarter even as Lenovo's market share increased from 1.7% to 14.8% for the quarter ending September. While I do not think quality is the reason for Apple not being successful in emerging market. I do think that Apple's strategy of using wireless providers as the default gateway for sales is one of the reasons. In much of the world, consumers buy their own phones at full price and then select a wireless provider. When the consumer is paying a full price, value for money and quality has a bigger impact. Samsung is still the market leader in China but Lenovo is expected to be the largest in China in 2013. As an Apple shareholder I would like to see Apple focus on the rest of the world including the emerging economies where the smart phone market is not yet saturated like the west. I would also like to see Apple overcome their supply chain issues and sell iPhones to all who want to buy it in the US. (Apple still does not sell unlocked iPhone 5 to customers outside of the big 3 wireless providers). No doubt it does sell iPhone 4S etc to anyone who wants to buy one.

Using carriers as the gateway for sales - and delaying availability of unlocked phones - benefits Apple such that I'd wager most people think a 16GB iPhone 5 costs just $199.

upnorth85 · Nov 29, 2012, 08:48 AM

I would accept that proposition if the US was the center of the world. The reality is that like Cars, the largest smart phone markets are now outside of the US. Apple as a global company will need to adapt to the fast changing market.

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Originally Posted by r2shyyou

Using carriers as the gateway for sales - and delaying availability of unlocked phones - benefits Apple such that I'd wager most people think a 16GB iPhone 5 costs just $199.

lke · Dec 4, 2012, 08:02 PM

I buy 2 black iphones and they don't have any scratches or bend issues.

I am sure that the first production of iphone 5 has some issues because my 2 black iphones are perfect and without any scratch.

NovemberWhiskey · Dec 4, 2012, 08:32 PM

I've been through 6 iphones with scratches/nicks/scuffs now. Some more serious than others.

It's a pretty common problem. It's more likely that only a few OCD owners like me are complaining about it.

I've only seen one flawless iphone 5 (the first one I bought from the Apple store on launch day with ZERO flaws in every possible way). Unfortunate that it was a 16GB and I sold it to buy a 32.

Nov 28, 2012, 09:34 PM	#1
lke macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2009	30 million iPhone 5 sold and only a few are reporting bend, scratch and camera issues I have read that over 30 million iphone 5 has been sold to this date. If the bend, scratch and camera issues are as bad as we read here why there is not many people speaking about this. Maybe the first production of the iphone 5 was bad and then Apple make some changes to have better quality. Could it be that some people are overreacting to the issues of the iphone 5? What do you think about this?
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Nov 28, 2012, 09:38 PM	#3
Minhimalism macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas	Most people don't even care about small nicks and stuff.. They just get the phone and then use it. The problem just seems exacerbated because people here on forums like these are more likely to bring them up (aside from the bending.. I'm sure anyone would notice and not be okay with that.) __________________ White iPhone 5 iOS 6.1 (T-Mobile) Twitter Instagram Flickr deviantART
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F123D macrumors 68030 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal	I've seen plenty of scuffed and scratched iPhone 5's. The average user just doesn't notice or care. __________________ Jailbroken iPhone 3G -> Jailbroken iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5 -> Galaxy Note II
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Nov 29, 2012, 01:41 AM	#5
stonyboys macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2012	Wow 30 million iPhones? That's almost 31 million!
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Nov 29, 2012, 02:34 AM	#6
Mrbobb macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2012	What do u expect from people who can't decide between black or white?
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Nov 29, 2012, 07:54 AM	#7
Interstella5555 macrumors 601 Join Date: Jun 2008	Return rate for the 4 was less than 1%, people who (think) they have issues will complain a lot more than people with devices that work.
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Nov 29, 2012, 08:37 AM	#11
upnorth85 macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2011	China overtook the US this year as the largest smart phone market in the world. In the second quarter Apple's market share halved to 10%. Wall Street Journal reported today that Apple's market share dropped to 6.9% this quarter even as Lenovo's market share increased from 1.7% to 14.8% for the quarter ending September. While I do not think quality is the reason for Apple not being successful in emerging market. I do think that Apple's strategy of using wireless providers as the default gateway for sales is one of the reasons. In much of the world, consumers buy their own phones at full price and then select a wireless provider. When the consumer is paying a full price, value for money and quality has a bigger impact. Samsung is still the market leader in China but Lenovo is expected to be the largest in China in 2013. As an Apple shareholder I would like to see Apple focus on the rest of the world including the emerging economies where the smart phone market is not yet saturated like the west. I would also like to see Apple overcome their supply chain issues and sell iPhones to all who want to buy it in the US. (Apple still does not sell unlocked iPhone 5 to customers outside of the big 3 wireless providers). No doubt it does sell iPhone 4S etc to anyone who wants to buy one.
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Dec 4, 2012, 08:02 PM	#14
lke Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2009	I buy 2 black iphones and they don't have any scratches or bend issues. I am sure that the first production of iphone 5 has some issues because my 2 black iphones are perfect and without any scratch.
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Dec 4, 2012, 08:32 PM	#15
NovemberWhiskey macrumors 65816 Join Date: May 2009	I've been through 6 iphones with scratches/nicks/scuffs now. Some more serious than others. It's a pretty common problem. It's more likely that only a few OCD owners like me are complaining about it. I've only seen one flawless iphone 5 (the first one I bought from the Apple store on launch day with ZERO flaws in every possible way). Unfortunate that it was a 16GB and I sold it to buy a 32.
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