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Old Dec 7, 2012, 07:34 PM   #1
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New 2012 iMac and no Firewire

I need some help. I am purchasing a 27: Imac and the new Imac's have done away with Firewire 400 and 800 I have Digital Converter [ADVC 110] It uses a 6-pin FireWire (IEEE 1394a) cable. to power it.
http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110

Does any one know how I could hook it up to the New Imac? USB 3 or thunderbolt?

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Old Dec 7, 2012, 07:37 PM   #2
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I need some help. I am purchasing a 27: Imac and the new Imac's have done away with Firewire 400 and 800 I have Digital Converter [ADVC 110] It uses a 6-pin FireWire (IEEE 1394a) cable. to power it.
http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110

Does any one know how I could hook it up to the New Imac? USB 3 or thunderbolt?

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...rewire-adapter
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 07:39 PM   #3
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I need some help. I am purchasing a 27: Imac and the new Imac's have done away with Firewire 400 and 800 I have Digital Converter [ADVC 110] It uses a 6-pin FireWire (IEEE 1394a) cable. to power it.
http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110

Does any one know how I could hook it up to the New Imac? USB 3 or thunderbolt?

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...rewire-adapter

Then just use a 9>6 pin firewire cable to convert it from the 800 port to the 400 port on your converter.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 07:48 PM   #4
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Just beware you don't get full FW 800 speed using that adapter. I have one and when i connect it to my 2011 MBA and plug in my firewire drive the transfer speeds are slower then usb2...I plug the same drive into my 2008 imac into the firewire port and i get the full FW800 speeds.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 09:18 PM   #5
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Just beware you don't get full FW 800 speed using that adapter. I have one and when i connect it to my 2011 MBA and plug in my firewire drive the transfer speeds are slower then usb2...I plug the same drive into my 2008 imac into the firewire port and i get the full FW800 speeds.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 11:15 PM   #6
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Have you considered moving into the digital world in terms of recording sources? You are going to be increasingly compromised with analog input sources in terms of speed of capture, etc.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 03:07 AM   #7
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Have you considered moving into the digital world in terms of recording sources? You are going to be increasingly compromised with analog input sources in terms of speed of capture, etc.
For some of us, part of our job is converting old analog video to digital.

I also use an ADVC 110 and after reading some reviews of the firewire adapter on the Apple site, you may run into problems powering it from the bus. You can buy an A/C adapter for your ADVC 110 and hopefully it should work correctly with your new iMac.

If you buy the Apple firewire adapter, can you report back how it works?
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 10:43 AM   #8
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Have you considered moving into the digital world in terms of recording sources? You are going to be increasingly compromised with analog input sources in terms of speed of capture, etc.
Yes I am planning to move into the Digital world. This is why I need to copy all of my old Super 8, 35mm slides, VCR tapes and more to digital that is why I am using the ADVC 110 to do this. Thanks for asking.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 12:51 PM   #9
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I still wonder why Apple removed Firewire from the iMac but still retained it in the 2012 models of the MBPro without Retina Display, Mac Pro, iMac and Mac mini.

The Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter may not supply enough electricity to bus-powered peripherals.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 01:30 PM   #10
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I still wonder why Apple removed Firewire from the iMac but still retained it in the 2012 models of the MBPro without Retina Display, Mac Pro, iMac and Mac mini.
Because they didn't change the chassis of the Mini, Mac Pro or MacBook Pro. Probably not worth the expense and designer time in their view.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 01:54 PM   #11
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For some of us, part of our job is converting old analog video to digital.

I also use an ADVC 110 and after reading some reviews of the firewire adapter on the Apple site, you may run into problems powering it from the bus. You can buy an A/C adapter for your ADVC 110 and hopefully it should work correctly with your new iMac.

If you buy the Apple firewire adapter, can you report back how it works?
Thank you for your input. I should be Getting my New Imac in Jan. I also purchased the Following:

Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...apter?fnode=51

Moshi 800 to 400 FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TW...apter?fnode=51

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I will be happy to report back to you about how it worked out.

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Old Dec 8, 2012, 02:06 PM   #12
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I still wonder why Apple removed Firewire from the iMac but still retained it in the 2012 models of the MBPro without Retina Display, Mac Pro, iMac and Mac mini.

The Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter may not supply enough electricity to bus-powered peripherals.
They said 7W of power and only needs 5V but if it is still not enough power then I will go with:
ADVC-PSU5V AC adapter kit*2

http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110
http://www.amazon.com/Canopus-ADVC-P.../dp/B000GJTA5G

First I'll try with Firewire adapters.

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Old Dec 8, 2012, 02:50 PM   #13
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BTW- the Thunderbolt/FW adapter provides a full-speed FW800 port. I use on with my 13" MBP and an external FW800 disk. Works just fine and at full speed.

I love my ADVC110. Only about 300 hours of Hi8 movies left to move over.
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 04:01 PM   #14
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Thank you for your input. I should be Getting my New Imac in Jan. I also purchased the Following:

Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...apter?fnode=51

Moshi 800 to 400 FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TW...apter?fnode=51

27-inch iMac
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Delivers Jan 4 - Jan 10 via Standard Shipping
Configuration
3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM-2X4GB
768GB Flash Storage
NVIDIAGeFrc GTX 680MX 2G GDDR5
MAGIC MOUSE+MAGIC TRACKPAD
Apple WL Kybd (English)+UG
COUNTRY KIT

Samsung SE-506AB/TSBD 6X USB2.0 External Slim Blu-ray Writer Drive (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s01_i04

LaCie 6TB 2big Quadra Hard Disk Two Bay RAID Drive, Up to 210MB/s Transfer Rate, USB 3.0, 7200rpm Rotational Speed
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o06_s00_i00

CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Compatible 1500VA 900W Pure Sine Wave Tower UPS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00

I work with Photoshop, and Adobe Premier, After Effects and I play WoW on MAC and Star Wars Old Republic and other PC only games. I have a Synology DS212+ NAS for Data and Backup.
I will be happy to report back to you about how it worked out.
Wow, what a beast...
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Old Dec 8, 2012, 04:25 PM   #15
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Just beware you don't get full FW 800 speed using that adapter. I have one and when i connect it to my 2011 MBA and plug in my firewire drive the transfer speeds are slower then usb2...I plug the same drive into my 2008 imac into the firewire port and i get the full FW800 speeds.
I guess that's why some of my renders aren't going that well.

Well, after Christmas I'll have to buy a Thunderbolt RAID...
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 02:01 AM   #16
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Thank you for your input. I should be Getting my New Imac in Jan. I also purchased the Following:

Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...apter?fnode=51

Moshi 800 to 400 FireWire Adapter
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TW...apter?fnode=51
You do not need the FW800/FW400 adapter. You need only the correct cable, such as:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
(10 ft)

More
9 PIN/ 6PIN BILINGUAL FireWire 800 - FireWire 400 Cables”:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...=10301#1030105

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Old Dec 9, 2012, 05:40 AM   #17
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You do not need the FW800/FW400 adapter. You need only the correct cable, such as:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
(10 ft)

More
9 PIN/ 6PIN BILINGUAL FireWire 800 - FireWire 400 Cables”:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...=10301#1030105

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He bought the correct things.
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Old Dec 9, 2012, 06:06 AM   #18
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If you are so into video, why not get a Mini with a Dell U2713HM. That display allows accurate playback of video framerates, where the iMac only does 60p. Cheaper too.
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If you are so into video, why not get a Mini with a Dell U2713HM. That display allows accurate playback of video framerates, where the iMac only does 60p. Cheaper too.
No because the mini doesn't have dedicated graphics and you can just plug in another monitor to the iMac anyway.
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He bought the correct things.
No. You call the useless FW800/FW400 adapter “correct”. Typical.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 08:45 AM   #21
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No. You call the useless FW800/FW400 adapter “correct”. Typical.
What's 'typical'?

If you look, he needs to plug something with FireWire 400 into the iMac...so he needs Thunderbolt to FW800, then FW800 to FW400...
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