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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:09 PM   #1
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10.8.3 (and 10.8.4b?) Still slow shutdown

20 second shutdowns persist. From the login screen!

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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:13 PM   #2
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Get over it.

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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:15 PM   #3
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Why shut down at all?
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:33 PM   #4
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Why shut down at all?
Dual boot for games?
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:35 PM   #5
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6 shut down test using the logoff screen method over the keyboard method after a complete reformat and reinstall of OS 10.8.3 and all tests were 3 seconds. :6

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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:36 PM   #6
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There's actually a manual fix for it. You change a value in some .plist or something. I did it a while ago. Search Google and you'll probably find it.
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 07:54 PM   #7
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20 second shutdowns persist. From the login screen!
If you shutdown your Mac from the LOGIN screen, then you have some “other” serious problems. ;-)

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5 shut down test using the logoff screen method over the keyboard method after a complete reformat and reinstall of OS 10.8.3 and all tests were 3 seconds.
Yeah, that's a good & clean solution.
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 08:20 PM   #8
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Dual boot for games?
Extra few seconds going to really bother you that much? Drink a mountain dew.
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Extra few seconds going to really bother you that much? Drink a mountain dew.
I don't do games, was just answering a question. Either way for some people there is an issue there.
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 08:34 PM   #10
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Anybody remember when Apple said they were going to have fast O/S switching ?
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 08:40 PM   #11
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Get over it.

No. I paid $2.5k for a device with buggy software. Apple's fit and finish seems to be waning.
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 09:35 PM   #12
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If you shutdown your Mac from the LOGIN screen, then you have some “other” serious problems.
Uh... no.

I was merely trying to see if OSX was taking so long to shutdown because it was killing other apps first like, Dropbox, Skydrive, etc. Doing a shutdown prior to loading these things seems like a logical test. (i.e., shutting down from the login screen).
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 10:51 PM   #13
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Yep, still slow shutdown in 10.8.3 for my rMBP.. Hell, it still changes my wallpaper on re-boot...as well as deleting folders I add into Desktop & Screen Saver in System Preferences. I don't even care anymore. I actually LOL that my $2500 rig can't even handle these miniscule details.
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Old Mar 14, 2013, 11:27 PM   #14
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Mine has gotten slightly better, now it takes 5-10 seconds.

Still could be better though.
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 06:12 AM   #16
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Mine has gotten slightly better, now it takes 5-10 seconds. Still could be better though.

I am truly curious ... why does this matter in the slightest?
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 06:22 AM   #17
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20 second shutdowns persist. From the login screen!
Not sure if you face a different problem than - but I know you've been involved in the topic for quite some time.

I still face the problem occasionally under 10.8.3 - after using Airplay on a extensive basis. So for me it's not fixed.

Either from the login screen or when only surfing/checking mails the shutdown takes under a second as usual for an SSD drive.
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 07:38 AM   #18
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I am truly curious ... why does this matter in the slightest?
It matters to me since we had a very short shut down with the other versions, and since it was no longer the case with 10.8.2, we felt that something was wrong with the OS, and needed fixing.

We like a short shut down so those that do it, would like to leave the computer sooner rather than later, and turn it off to do something else. With 10.8.2, I had to wait until it was shut down so I could turn off the system completely as a safety measure when I leave my home. 20 seconds may not mean much to you, but it does mount up over a short period of time. And no I will never just put my system into a Sleep Mode.

Even Microsofts Windows has a very short shutdown.

If you don't mind it, good for you, but please stop bad mouthing those that do want a better faster system.

6 times now, using the Log Off screen, the time needed is about 3 seconds.

Edited: More activity and now my shut down is around 20 seconds again

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Old Mar 15, 2013, 08:01 AM   #19
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my shutdowns are 4-5 secs.. if you don't have ssd don't expect to get miracle from your computer
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 08:02 AM   #20
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I am truly curious ... why does this matter in the slightest?
Right now, my near ancient 2009 MacBook Pro with a new SSD boots up in 12 seconds, and shuts down in 2 seconds with Lion 10.7.5.

That fast on and off are the difference between grabbing the computer to do a quick task that might take a few minutes - rather than say, nah, I'll do it later (particularly if the start and off takes 1-2 minutes like it did before I got the SSD.

All I can say is, you guys are mugs for being early adopters of Apples OS's. I'm not touching 10.8.3 with a 10 foot barge pole. Since 10.6, there's never been a .3 that's been rock solid. If 10.8.3 is rock solid, it'd be a first.

In my experience, 10.6 didn't come good until .6 -- however you wax lyrical about Snow Leopard, it was a dog at the beginning. Leopard was even worse. Lion has come good around 10.7.4. So if ML is great at .3, that'd be incredibly ... unlikely.
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 08:33 AM   #21
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Below is my system log, right after shutdown. I'm listing only the "timeout" items that failed to close (they are the same as 10.8.2 for me):


Mar 4 09:29:39 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.quicklook.satellite.87B5D14A-38E6-4DA0-8894-87A34842D434[6845]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 4 11:28:12 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[7762]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 4 15:42:57 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[159]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 5 07:52:45 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.quicklook.satellite.5F27A930-AF25-4D05-A05C-AEF1F4966997[3338]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 5 09:08:49 rs-macbook-pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[163]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 5 09:10:03 rs-macbook-pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[465]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 6 13:01:18 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[6226]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 6 13:56:45 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[164]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 6 17:18:27 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[211]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 6 17:23:32 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[515]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 7 19:06:40 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[4292]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 13:21:51 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[241]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 18:51:30 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1967]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 18:52:11 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1971]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 18:52:23 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1963]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 20:42:57 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[2004]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 9 20:43:04 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1979]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:20:14 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[3983]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:20:33 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[3942]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:20:59 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[4042]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:20:59 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4024]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:21:20 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[4065]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:21:20 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4047]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:21:40 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4076]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:22:03 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[4095]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:23:09 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4123]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:23:29 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4148]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:23:49 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4163]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:24:09 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4171]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:24:29 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4188]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:24:49 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4202]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:25:18 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4222]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:25:38 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4232]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 10:25:58 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.qtkitserver[4251]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 20:26:58 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[6981]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 10 20:28:11 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[6997]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 15:37:58 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1192]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 15:11:33 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1406]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 15:34:26 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1553]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 15:34:59 rs-macbook-pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1563]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 17:33:50 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[524]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 12 17:49:02 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[545]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 08:04:46 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[154]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 18:13:17 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[204]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 18:16:11 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[164]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 18:58:42 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[167]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 19:06:36 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[154]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 22:13:46 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[172]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 22:22:27 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[156]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 22:30:17 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[163]): Exit timeout elapsed (2 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 23:18:15 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[682]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 23:19:18 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[210]): Exit timeout elapsed (2 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 23:20:20 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[230]): Exit timeout elapsed (2 seconds). Killing
Mar 14 23:22:36 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[203]): Exit timeout elapsed (2 seconds). Killing
Mar 15 08:23:35 Rs-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[154]): Exit timeout elapsed (2 seconds). Killing
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 08:36 AM   #22
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Damn I was hoping that my 25 sec turn off lag would have been sorted with the 10.8.3...

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Below is my system log, right after shutdown. I'm listing only the "timeout" items that failed to close (they are the same as 10.8.2 for me):
Interesting point, when I get home I will check what mine looks like..
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10.8.3

I have noticed my Imac shuts down faster now with ML 10.8.3.
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I have noticed my Imac shuts down faster now with ML 10.8.3.
Did you upgraded with the combo or not? Any KP on restart? Ideally I would like to updgrade asap to sort the slow shot down but I am scared of potential KP...
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Did you upgraded with the combo or not? Any KP on restart? Ideally I would like to updgrade asap to sort the slow shot down but I am scared of potential KP...
sorry I dont understand? what is combo? what is KP?
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