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wmy5

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Original post: http://bbs.weiphone.com/read-htm-tid-7122144.html (link to a Chinese forum weiphone.com)

Another source: http://bbs.weiphone.com/read-htm-tid-7143214.html



13" rMBP:

All 13" models have 4th generation dual-core Intel i5/i7, integrated GPU (Intel Iris 5100), PCIe flash and 802.11ac.

CPU (GHz)/RAM (GB)/Flash (GB)
2.4 i5-4258U/4/128
2.4 i5-4258U/8/256
2.4 i5-4258U/8/512
2.8 i7-4558U/8/512
2.8 i7-4558U/16/1TB (BTO)


15" rMBP:

All 15" models have 4th generation quad-core Intel i7, PCIe flash and 802.11ac.

CPU (GHz)/RAM (GB)/Flash (GB)/Graphics
2.0 i7-4750HQ/8/256/Iris Pro 5200 --(i7 4750HQ confirmed in 2nd source)
2.3 i7-4850HQ/16/512/Iris Pro 5200 + Nvidia GT750M with 2GB vRAM
2.6 i7-4960HQ/16/1TB/Iris Pro 5200 + Nvidia GT750M with 2GB vRAM (BTO)

The low-end rMBP 15" with iGPU is intended to replace the current non-retina MBP 15".

Product numbers:

15": ME293/ME294/ME8*4
13": ME8*4/ME8*5/ME8*6/ME8*7
 
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The i7-4770TE, launched Q2'13 has 2.3GHz, is quad-core, mobile and with HD4600.

Seems legit.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75610/Intel-Core-i7-4770TE-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz

No, it's a low-power desktop CPU.

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There is no quad-core mobile i7 without Iris Pro that has that clock speed. Seems fishy.

You are right, maybe there are small mistakes made by the original poster, or maybe all the info is completely false.
 
No, it's a low-power desktop CPU.

Odd... It came up while I was searching mobile CPU's on Intel's site. But I can see that it is in the Desktop category. Just looked at the TDP and saw it was 45W, so never looked at the category :)
 
No, it's a low-power desktop CPU.

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You are right, maybe there are small mistakes made by the original poster, or maybe all the info is completely false.

In the past Apple had a 15" MBP with the 9400M iGPU and a high end model 15" model with the same 9400M iGPU + 9600M dedicated GPU. It is not fishy at all.
 
In the past Apple had a 15" MBP with the 9400M iGPU and a high end model 15" model with the same 9400M iGPU + 9600M dedicated GPU. It is not fishy at all.

So you are saying Apple will put Iris Pro and dGPU together? I think it is far too pricey...
 
2.0/8/256/Iris Pro --(i7 4750HQ?)
2.3/16/512/Nvidia 7xxM with 2GB vRAM

I don't want to even think how much the 2.6 model will cost..lol

Now I have a dilemma. Do I really need 512GB of storage and Nvidia?

256 = ~230
512 = ~480

OS = ~5 GB
Windows VM = 50GB
Linux VM = 50GB
Projects = ~15GB
Apps/Products = ~40GB
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Total = ~160GB at start
 
2.0/8/256/Iris Pro --(i7 4750HQ?)
2.3/16/512/Nvidia 7xxM with 2GB vRAM

I don't want to even think how much the 2.6 model will cost..lol

Now I have a dilemma. Do I really need 512GB of storage and Nvidia?

256 = ~230
512 = ~480

OS = ~5 GB
Windows VM = 50GB
Linux VM = 50GB
Projects = ~15GB
Apps/Products = ~40GB
---------------------------
Total = ~160GB at start

I'm going with the base with Iris Pro. I don't need an Nvidia; actually I would benefit more from Iris Pro's improved OpenCL performance (it's much much better than the 7XXM series).

Iris Pro graphics performance is almost as good as the rMBP's 650M in many games, but in graphics intensive games as high resolution, the 650M outperforms Iris Pro.
 
I'm going with the base with Iris Pro. I don't need an Nvidia; actually I would benefit more from Iris Pro's improved OpenCL performance (it's much much better than the 7XXM series).

Iris Pro graphics performance is almost as good as the rMBP's 650M in many games, but in graphics intensive games as high resolution, the 650M outperforms Iris Pro.

Good to know. Aside from using Photoshop to create a few app icons here and there; thats the extent of my design work.

I think my ideal machine is:

2.3, 16GB, 512, iris pro (BTO?)
 
Unfortunately, I find this hard to believe. For the record, I was lamenting the potential loss of the dedicated graphics in the upcoming generation, but it's my understanding that Iris GT3e is only negligibly less expensive than a GT 650M. Not to mention that this is supposed to be some special top binning.
 

Presumably in line with the existing pricing ($1799/$2200/$2800). I assumed they would just drop the pricing like they did on the 13" to restore a <$2000 option, but the more I think about this the more interesting it becomes. If they could offer that middle configuration for $2200 I would be over the moon.

I don't see a $600 difference between the latter two models, however. Unless they actually included a 1TB SSD or a 770M or something.
 
Everything in the OP is fishy. 4GB RAM? Right.

Could be an ultra-nerfed version. I can't see what is fishy about 4gb of ram. Back in 2010 where 2gb was considered tiny, the baseline macbook air 11/13" came with that. Moreover, the current 13" MBP comes with 4GB.

or

They could have kept the 13" classic as it's their highest volume pro model.
 
I'm going with the base with Iris Pro. I don't need an Nvidia; actually I would benefit more from Iris Pro's improved OpenCL performance (it's much much better than the 7XXM series).

I would also go with an Iris Pro model, but not with the 4750HQ, only with the 4850HQ, 4950HQ or 4960HQ. The 4750HQ lacks some features, for instance, it has no TSX.

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I think it means that it has the Iris Pro as iGPU with the Listed graphics as dGPU. [Fingers crossed] :)

Unlikely. Iris Pro + dGPU would be very expensive. In addition, CPUs with Iris Pro have lower clock speeds, although I don't know if they could increase the nominal clock when Iris Pro is deactivated in favor of the dGPU.
 
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Regarding the 15", there must be some typos or this isn't accurate. The 4750HQ is 2.0GHz with GT3e, so that checks out. However, the 4850HQ is the only 2.3GHz part and that includes a GT3e as well. Obviously, this makes a dedicated GPU not quite redundant but extremely cost inefficient... and not at all in line with a midrange model. The 4960HQ is the 2.6GHz part, and that includes GT3e as well. I'm not sure what to make of this.

Is there precedent for Apple using a completely different Intel part? I can't recall them using anything proprietary. There are 2.2, 2.4, 2.7 and 2.8GHz GT2 parts, not including the Extreme processor. It would have to be one of those, wouldn't it? Otherwise, I'd have to imagine the GPU is out.
 
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