Quartz Extreme not present on Radeon 8500 / OS 10.2.3

estlin · Jan 13, 2003, 09:59 AM

I just bought a Radeon 8500 for my 466 Mhz G4 with 896 MB RAM running 10.2.3. Checked the ATI site for a driver, only found one that supported up to 10.2.1, but ran it anyways. Supposedly Quartz should automatically be enabled for me, but I checked anyways for all the ways people have suggested to see if Quartz is running:

1) shadow under mouse in finder - YES
2) have desktop pics change every 5 seconds to see if transitions fade smoothly or just swap out -just swaps up, so NO
3) haven't run the DVD test (run a DVD while moving a transparent window over it to see if its smooth) though tried a Quicktime but its choppy, so probably NO
4) ran Quartz Extreme checker and it says "display not accelerated" so NO

Most tests seem to indicate I don't have Quartz running, which doesn't make sense. Anyone have any insights to this?

sparkleytone · Jan 13, 2003, 10:04 AM

do you have more than one videocard installed?? this can easily confuse the situation.

estlin · Jan 13, 2003, 10:07 AM

nope, just the Radeon installed

sparkleytone · Jan 13, 2003, 10:19 AM

did you install the ATI driver after or before 10.2.3??

you need to use the driver that came with 10.2.3 because it is much newer than the ATI one.

Str8edgepunker · Jan 13, 2003, 10:20 AM

I had a similar problem with my tibook. what you have to do is run the 10.2.3 updater again and then restart. you should be fine then.

mc68k · Jan 13, 2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by estlin
1) shadow under mouse in finder - YES

This has no bearing on whether QE is running or not.

estlin · Jan 13, 2003, 10:48 AM

Reinstalled 10.2.3 update. Quartz Extreme checker confirms display is accelerated. Desktop pics fade smoothly. I guess the lesson learned is to let the little ol' Mac do the guess work first. Thanks guys!

sparkleytone · Jan 13, 2003, 12:26 PM

good to hear. if my machine was QE capable and not running with it, i would be upset too. just a word of advice. if your OS point update (x.2.3) is newer by release date than the third party driver (ATI), do not update with the third party driver. Apple includes drivers in their updates all too often.

Jan 13, 2003, 09:59 AM	#1
estlin macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2003	Quartz Extreme not present on Radeon 8500 / OS 10.2.3 I just bought a Radeon 8500 for my 466 Mhz G4 with 896 MB RAM running 10.2.3. Checked the ATI site for a driver, only found one that supported up to 10.2.1, but ran it anyways. Supposedly Quartz should automatically be enabled for me, but I checked anyways for all the ways people have suggested to see if Quartz is running: 1) shadow under mouse in finder - YES 2) have desktop pics change every 5 seconds to see if transitions fade smoothly or just swap out -just swaps up, so NO 3) haven't run the DVD test (run a DVD while moving a transparent window over it to see if its smooth) though tried a Quicktime but its choppy, so probably NO 4) ran Quartz Extreme checker and it says "display not accelerated" so NO Most tests seem to indicate I don't have Quartz running, which doesn't make sense. Anyone have any insights to this?

Jan 13, 2003, 10:04 AM	#2
sparkleytone macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC	do you have more than one videocard installed?? this can easily confuse the situation. __________________ "The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

Jan 13, 2003, 10:19 AM	#4
sparkleytone macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC	did you install the ATI driver after or before 10.2.3?? you need to use the driver that came with 10.2.3 because it is much newer than the ATI one. __________________ "The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

Jan 13, 2003, 10:20 AM	#5
Str8edgepunker macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA	same prob I had a similar problem with my tibook. what you have to do is run the 10.2.3 updater again and then restart. you should be fine then. __________________ -Those who dream big, make it big. Those who dream small, earn chump change for the rest of their lives.

Jan 13, 2003, 12:26 PM	#8
sparkleytone macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC	good to hear. if my machine was QE capable and not running with it, i would be upset too. just a word of advice. if your OS point update (x.2.3) is newer by release date than the third party driver (ATI), do not update with the third party driver. Apple includes drivers in their updates all too often. __________________ "The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

Jan 13, 2003, 10:07 AM	#3
estlin Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2003	nope, just the Radeon installed

Jan 13, 2003, 10:48 AM	#7
estlin Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2003	Reinstalled 10.2.3 update. Quartz Extreme checker confirms display is accelerated. Desktop pics fade smoothly. I guess the lesson learned is to let the little ol' Mac do the guess work first. Thanks guys!

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