Windows Virtualization on Intel Macs

MacRumors · Apr 6, 2006, 08:15 AM

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Parallels released their Windows virtualization solution for the Intel Mac today. The product is called Parallels Workstation 2.1 Beta and a free fully functional copy is available for download now.

Unlike Apple's Boot Camp solution, Parallels solution allows you to run Windows XP (and other Intel-based operating systems) from within Mac OS X. Rebooting or Dual Booting is not required. This allows users to maintain their daily environment while also being able to use any desired Windows applications. It is only available for the Intel Macs and should provide near-native performance.

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Parallels Workstation 2.1 Beta for Mac OS X is NOT simply a "dual-boot" solution; rather, it empowers users the ability to use Windows, Linux and any other operating system at the same time as Mac OS X, enabling users to enjoy the comfort of their Mac OS X desktop while still being able to use critical applications from other OSes.

Parallels appears to be taking advantage of the Intel Virtualization Technology which was included in the Intel Yonah processors that are now shipping in the Intel Macs.

Arnaud · Apr 6, 2006, 08:18 AM

That's already better than a boot-solution...
At least you can keep the whole OsX in the background for all tasks !

A.

(First post !)

Cinematographer · Apr 6, 2006, 08:18 AM

Definitely much better a solution than Boot Camp.

Chaszmyr · Apr 6, 2006, 08:20 AM

Are the video drivers sufficient for running a game? if not, can the Boot Camp drivers some how be used?

iBunny · Apr 6, 2006, 08:21 AM

AMAZING!

Both Soultions are great!! Now, Boot camp offers native enviroment for gaming!!! And the Virtulization offers the ability to run windows within the Mac OS!!!

w000t

Steve Jobs, I never thought I would say it but thank you for opening up this opportunity. Now , I only have to buy 1 computer.... and its a Mac.!!!!

Macheath_Messer · Apr 6, 2006, 08:23 AM

Now this is interesting (at least for me). I would love to be able to run XP within a window for those 2 programs I need it for, instead of having to reboot. I haven't gotten the chance to look at this yet, but I wonder if it will include direct support for video cards (thus allowing the use of DirectX)?

Wow, some exciting times here the last couple days.

FWIW,

Mackie

skillz1318 · Apr 6, 2006, 08:23 AM

yeah, i want to install xp for gaming purposes...which would run games better you think, boot camp or virtualization? im thinking boot camp...

Thanks

paulchen · Apr 6, 2006, 08:25 AM

Please tell me that it is impossible to use os x on a windows pc. If not, good night apple.

BRLawyer · Apr 6, 2006, 08:26 AM

Parallel's solution seems wonderful indeed, as I loathe any possibility of booting Winblows...it's more like a native speed VirtualPC...very promising.

backspinner · Apr 6, 2006, 08:26 AM

Woot! Now this is good news for business users! Apple will get a grip on the corporate IT budgets.

andiwm2003 · Apr 6, 2006, 08:28 AM

great, thats more like it. no dual boot.

the only question is how viruses will behave under this system. maybe there is a simple and safe solution to this (aside of not using windows!)?

mcadam · Apr 6, 2006, 08:30 AM

Wow - seems we are experiencing a virtual tsunami of windows on mac these days... Gawd damn I'm curious to see some benchmarks soon. If this will open up for all the lovely 3d and other design apps (Ooh Rhino, app of my dreams) that has never been made for a mac I'm a happy guy... but it does demand that it works, more or less, at native speed as promised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulchen

Please tell me that it is impossible to use os x on a windows pc. If not, good night apple.

It is impossible to use os x on a windows pc.

A

galstaph · Apr 6, 2006, 08:30 AM

Hopefully the virtualization box keeps the beast fully contained, someone needs to compare this benchmark-wise with boot camp

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originally posted by mcadam
It is impossible to use os x on a windows pc.

not quite, but it is not recommended and isn't fully functional (i.e. it is hacked to work)

hd78 · Apr 6, 2006, 08:31 AM

Thank You (God or whoever) for bootcamp and this. PC hardware will be the best for the money if everything goes well in my opinion.

DTphonehome · Apr 6, 2006, 08:32 AM

Sheesh, this is all happening so fast! I'd like to see performance of this virtualization scheme...how are graphics, and are all the device drivers included? Can you just use Apple's own driver set (which Boot Camp gives you)?

Platform · Apr 6, 2006, 08:32 AM

Amazing...just hope for the people with Intel Mac's that the drivers from Boot Camp will work..

Cinematographer · Apr 6, 2006, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulchen

Please tell me that it is impossible to use os x on a windows pc. If not, good night apple.

It is impossible. It has been tried before, but you don't get a stable system. More crashes than Windows 3.1

And: it's illegal.

DTphonehome · Apr 6, 2006, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulchen

Please tell me that it is impossible to use os x on a windows pc. If not, good night apple.

Well, it is possible, but only a hardcore group of enthusiasts have actually done it, so it isn't supported in any way. And forget your average PC user doing that install. Also, the hacked version of OS X is both illegal and often a couple steps behind the current Apple release.

paulchen · Apr 6, 2006, 08:35 AM

Now I'm asking me: Should I install this or Boot camp to chat with my friends in Msn with a cam. (I install my old webcam)
But even my girlfriend who has an windows pc told me: are you fool?? Why would you like to install windows?

Electro Funk · Apr 6, 2006, 08:36 AM

Wow... I am beside myself.... Somebody pinch me...

I don't know what to say regarding the last 2 days....

Dual booting supported and today virtualization...

mark88 · Apr 6, 2006, 08:36 AM

Can someone please hurry up and try it out?

hob · Apr 6, 2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark88

Can someone please hurry up and try it out?

Amen to that!!

I want to know if you can run Half-Life 2 with this program, because if you can...

I shall be buying me an intel mac this summer!!

DTphonehome · Apr 6, 2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro Funk

Wow... I am beside myself.... Somebody pinch me...

I don't know what to say regarding the last 2 days....

Dual booting supported and today virtualization...

And tomorrow...the world!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

paulchen · Apr 6, 2006, 08:42 AM

The Imac is the best computer I've erver bought!!!!! What a chance!! Thank you apple. But don't forget to make publicity for your computers

aussie_geek · Apr 6, 2006, 08:43 AM

WOW!!

way too much for me to process at the moment. i will have to look into this at work tomorrow

. it seems that it is a great time to be a Mac user. This is obviously a prelude to Leopard. Are there any patents on this concept?? Will Apple have to pay this company to use its technology in their new OS??

uncertain times are ahead...

aussie_geek

Apr 6, 2006, 08:18 AM	#3
Cinematographer macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: far away	Definitely much better a solution than Boot Camp. __________________ iMac Alu 24", Pod 40 GB, Touch 16 GB, Shuffle 1GB

Apr 6, 2006, 08:21 AM	#5
iBunny macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2004	AMAZING! Both Soultions are great!! Now, Boot camp offers native enviroment for gaming!!! And the Virtulization offers the ability to run windows within the Mac OS!!! w000t Steve Jobs, I never thought I would say it but thank you for opening up this opportunity. Now , I only have to buy 1 computer.... and its a Mac.!!!! __________________ Sergeant United States Marine Corps

Apr 6, 2006, 08:23 AM	#6
Macheath_Messer macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ringgold, GA	Cool! This is interesting. . . Now this is interesting (at least for me). I would love to be able to run XP within a window for those 2 programs I need it for, instead of having to reboot. I haven't gotten the chance to look at this yet, but I wonder if it will include direct support for video cards (thus allowing the use of DirectX)? Wow, some exciting times here the last couple days. FWIW, Mackie

Apr 6, 2006, 08:25 AM	#8
paulchen macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2006	oh no Please tell me that it is impossible to use os x on a windows pc. If not, good night apple. __________________ http://web.mac.com/luxpaulchen Ibook 12; Imac 20; Imac 20 intel; Ipod Nano; Ipod Shuffle; Packard Bell Notebook

Apr 6, 2006, 08:26 AM	#9
BRLawyer macrumors 68020 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Currently in Switzerland	Parallel's solution seems wonderful indeed, as I loathe any possibility of booting Winblows...it's more like a native speed VirtualPC...very promising. __________________ iMac 24" C2D 2.8, 4Gb, 500Gb+1.25Tb, JBL Creature II, Creative XMod, OS X 10.6.2; iBook G3 Dual-USB 500MHz, 384Mb, 15Gb, OS X 10.4.11

Apr 6, 2006, 08:18 AM	#2
Arnaud macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Moon	That's already better than a boot-solution... At least you can keep the whole OsX in the background for all tasks ! A. (First post !)

Apr 6, 2006, 08:20 AM	#4
Chaszmyr macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boulder, CO	Are the video drivers sufficient for running a game? if not, can the Boot Camp drivers some how be used?

Apr 6, 2006, 08:23 AM	#7
skillz1318 macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2006	yeah, i want to install xp for gaming purposes...which would run games better you think, boot camp or virtualization? im thinking boot camp... Thanks

Apr 6, 2006, 08:26 AM	#10
backspinner macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eindhoven	Woot! Now this is good news for business users! Apple will get a grip on the corporate IT budgets. __________________ By all means, do not use a hammer.

Apr 6, 2006, 08:28 AM	#11
andiwm2003 macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA	great, thats more like it. no dual boot. the only question is how viruses will behave under this system. maybe there is a simple and safe solution to this (aside of not using windows!)?

Apr 6, 2006, 08:31 AM	#14
hd78 macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2006	Thank You (God or whoever) for bootcamp and this. PC hardware will be the best for the money if everything goes well in my opinion.

Apr 6, 2006, 08:32 AM	#15
DTphonehome macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC	Sheesh, this is all happening so fast! I'd like to see performance of this virtualization scheme...how are graphics, and are all the device drivers included? Can you just use Apple's own driver set (which Boot Camp gives you)?

Apr 6, 2006, 08:32 AM	#16
Platform macrumors 68030 Join Date: Dec 2004	Amazing...just hope for the people with Intel Mac's that the drivers from Boot Camp will work.. __________________ Aluminium Macbook \| 20" iMac G5 (iSight)

Apr 6, 2006, 08:35 AM	#19
paulchen macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2006	yes!! Now I'm asking me: Should I install this or Boot camp to chat with my friends in Msn with a cam. (I install my old webcam) But even my girlfriend who has an windows pc told me: are you fool?? Why would you like to install windows? __________________ http://web.mac.com/luxpaulchen Ibook 12; Imac 20; Imac 20 intel; Ipod Nano; Ipod Shuffle; Packard Bell Notebook

Apr 6, 2006, 08:36 AM	#20
Electro Funk macrumors 65816 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Opium Garden	Wow... I am beside myself.... Somebody pinch me... I don't know what to say regarding the last 2 days.... Dual booting supported and today virtualization... __________________ A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzche

Apr 6, 2006, 08:36 AM	#21
mark88 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2004	Can someone please hurry up and try it out?

Apr 6, 2006, 08:42 AM	#24
paulchen macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2006	Mac intel The Imac is the best computer I've erver bought!!!!! What a chance!! Thank you apple. But don't forget to make publicity for your computers __________________ http://web.mac.com/luxpaulchen Ibook 12; Imac 20; Imac 20 intel; Ipod Nano; Ipod Shuffle; Packard Bell Notebook

Apr 6, 2006, 08:43 AM	#25
aussie_geek macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sydney Australia	WOW!! way too much for me to process at the moment. i will have to look into this at work tomorrow . it seems that it is a great time to be a Mac user. This is obviously a prelude to Leopard. Are there any patents on this concept?? Will Apple have to pay this company to use its technology in their new OS?? uncertain times are ahead... aussie_geek __________________ PCgame rig 3GHz core 2 3GB ram 8800GTX VISTA Sony VAIO SR 16GN -3 GB ram VISTA Mac Pro 2.66 GHz 4Gb X1900XT MacBook Pro 15.4 inch 2.16GHz

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