New PowerMac (Mac Pro) and MacBook Pro Enclosures

MacRumors · Jul 4, 2006, 12:29 PM

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ThinkSecret reports that when the PowerMac G5 gets its replacement at the Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC), it will sport a new enclosure.

The new case is said to be "substantially different" to signify the transition to the Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe). The internal configurations are said to be comparable to current PowerMacs:

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Configurations of the new Mac are said to be similar to those of the most recent Power Mac G5, including a single dual-core processor in the low- and mid-range systems, and a dual dual-core (quad core) system at the top end.

ThinkSecret also expects that the MacBook Pro will also sport a new enclosure once it adopts the Core 2 Duo processor (Merom).

Apple recently trademarked Mac Pro which is expected to be the new name for the PowerMac line.

emotion · Jul 4, 2006, 12:32 PM

Black anodized alloy enclosures. Come on Apple you know you want to

Hmm come to think of it imagine the complaints about scratches...

Mr. DG · Jul 4, 2006, 12:33 PM

Does quad therefore imply woodcrest rather than conroe?

Peace · Jul 4, 2006, 12:35 PM

Dual Conroes

Max on Macs · Jul 4, 2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. DG

Does quad therefore imply woodcrest rather than conroe?

I would imagine so, we already know that the Conroe won't support dual processor configurations.

michaeldmartin · Jul 4, 2006, 12:35 PM

Quad might mean dual dual core processors.

Flowbee · Jul 4, 2006, 12:35 PM

Hopefully the Mac Pro will be a bit smaller than the current G5 PowerMac.

shigzeo · Jul 4, 2006, 12:36 PM

but as i logged in, i realized this will never be a first post for me. i am glad of new enclosures though i love the g5 powermac. as for macbook pro, i cannot wait. the new macbook itself is the reason i still believe in design magik and if macbook pro can be improved upon, i will cheer very loudly

Peace · Jul 4, 2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeldmartin

Quad might mean dual dual core processors.

Exactly!

Keep in mind Intel and Apple have been working on the guts of the MacPro for some time and it will be unique:-)

kskill · Jul 4, 2006, 12:38 PM

this news isn't so shocking... but i'm pretty excited to see what the designs will actually be.

Macmaniac · Jul 4, 2006, 12:41 PM

Can't wait to see a new enclosure, the G5 case was just way too big!

Chundles · Jul 4, 2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace

Dual Conroes

Can't do it, Conroe only supports one chip. If we want a Quad we need Woodcrest.

luminosity · Jul 4, 2006, 12:43 PM

Messing with the MBP enclosure design is a bad move.

azzurri000 · Jul 4, 2006, 12:43 PM

In terms of the MacBook Pro, I'd like to see how they can improve upon perfection. I'm a little nervous as to how it will look... but I guess each successive PowerBook revision looked snazzier than the one before it.

MrPineapples · Jul 4, 2006, 12:43 PM

I'll be glad if this is true, all the new intel mac's (apart from the macbook) have disapointed me by having almost the same enclosures as the models they replaced. My next mac was going to be a powermac but i've held out for an intel update i'm sure it'll be a beast.

Peace · Jul 4, 2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chundles

Can't do it, Conroe only supports one chip. If we want a Quad we need Woodcrest.

The Conroe "chip" is a dual-core

The new "logic board" will accept two chips..
Watch

Think outside the box Chundles!! Think outside the box..

Chundles · Jul 4, 2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeldmartin

Quad might mean dual dual core processors.

That's what we have at the moment, the PowerMac Quad is two 2.5GHz dual-core processors.

For four cores in a MacPro you need the SMP capabilities of the Woodcrest chip, Conroe can't support multi-chip configurations - it would be OK for iMacs and low range MacPros but for a Quad replacement you need Woodcrest.

AidenShaw · Jul 4, 2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

The Conroe "chip" is a dual-core

The new "logic board" will accept two chips..
Watch

Think outside the box Chundles!! Think outside the box..

Conroe cannot run in dual chip configurations.

A Woodcrest is basically the same chip as the Conroe, but does allow dual-chip motherboards.

azzurri000 · Jul 4, 2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPineapples

I'll be glad if this is true, all the new intel mac's (apart from the macbook) have disapointed me by having almost the same enclosures as the models they replaced. My next mac was going to be a powermac but i've held out for an intel update i'm sure it'll be a beast.

I know cars are in a completely different boat than computers, but I think Apple should stick to its beautiful designs and only make minor changes to the models' formfactors like Porsche would do. If you've got a great thing, why completely obliterate it?

Chundles · Jul 4, 2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

The Conroe "chip" is a dual-core

The new "logic board" will accept two chips..
Watch

Think outside the box Chundles!! Think outside the box..

I know it's a dual-core, but Conroe doesn't have the ability to work in multi-processor arrangements, only Woodcrest can do that.

Mord · Jul 4, 2006, 12:49 PM

conroe cannot be run SMP, seriously, can this finally be accepted as common knowledge conroe ? SMP SMP is required to run more than one physical chip and conroe is one chip with two cores woodcrest is one chip with two cores that have the capability to be run in tandem with annother woodcrest giveing four cores.

woodcrest is what is going in the mac pro, their may be a single dual conroe offering at the low end as a consumer tower but woodcrest is cheaper at the high end (the 3GHz woodcrest is cheaper than the 2.92GHz extreme edition core2duo)

conroe and woodcrest use the exact same cores just conroe has SMP disabled.

Chundles · Jul 4, 2006, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AidenShaw

Conroe cannot run in dual chip configurations.

A Woodcrest is basically the same chip as the Conroe, but does allow dual-chip motherboards.

et voila!

BlizzardBomb · Jul 4, 2006, 12:50 PM

Remember TS were the ones who said the MacBook would come with a Core Solo... Also dual-Conroes aren't possible.

Peace · Jul 4, 2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chundles

I know it's a dual-core, but Conroe doesn't have the ability to work in multi-processor arrangements, only Woodcrest can do that.

Unless Intel/Apple designed a completely different MB

longofest · Jul 4, 2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chundles

I know it's a dual-core, but Conroe doesn't have the ability to work in multi-processor arrangements, only Woodcrest can do that.

Correct. I think ThinkSecret has their wires crossed on this one.

Possibility has been mentioned/speculated in the forums, and isn't totally off the wall, that Apple could use Conroe for its single-CPU configs, and a Woodcrest CPU for its Quad config. While it would complicate the line technically because a different chipset would have to be used for the Woodcrest board, it would keep the cost of the single-cpu machines down (at least manufacturing costs. We as consumers may not see that benefit).

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emotion macrumors 68030 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Manchester, UK	Black anodized alloy enclosures. Come on Apple you know you want to Hmm come to think of it imagine the complaints about scratches...

Jul 4, 2006, 12:33 PM	#3
Mr. DG macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2006	Does quad therefore imply woodcrest rather than conroe?

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Peace macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: On top of the Storm Peaks waiting for the Time-Lost Proto Drake	Dual Conroes

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michaeldmartin macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Testicles. That is all.	Quad might mean dual dual core processors.

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azzurri000 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2005	In terms of the MacBook Pro, I'd like to see how they can improve upon perfection. I'm a little nervous as to how it will look... but I guess each successive PowerBook revision looked snazzier than the one before it.

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MrPineapples macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK	I'll be glad if this is true, all the new intel mac's (apart from the macbook) have disapointed me by having almost the same enclosures as the models they replaced. My next mac was going to be a powermac but i've held out for an intel update i'm sure it'll be a beast.

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Mord macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: People's Republic of Yorkshire	conroe cannot be run SMP, seriously, can this finally be accepted as common knowledge conroe ? SMP SMP is required to run more than one physical chip and conroe is one chip with two cores woodcrest is one chip with two cores that have the capability to be run in tandem with annother woodcrest giveing four cores. woodcrest is what is going in the mac pro, their may be a single dual conroe offering at the low end as a consumer tower but woodcrest is cheaper at the high end (the 3GHz woodcrest is cheaper than the 2.92GHz extreme edition core2duo) conroe and woodcrest use the exact same cores just conroe has SMP disabled. __________________ Consider the lily.

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