Apple adopting Merom (Core 2 Duo) Processors?

MacRumors · Aug 3, 2006, 11:24 PM

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Appleinsider reports that according to their sources, Apple is expected to quickly adopt Intel's newest line of processors - the mobile Core 2 Duo - which was announced last week.

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According to a source familiar with the Mac maker's plans, the company is slated to receive mass shipments of the new Merom Core 2 Duo processors by the first week of September and plans to be amongst the first PC manufacturers to introduce systems based on the new chips.

Apple's current iMac, MacBook, MacBook Pro and Mac mini use the original Core Duo/Solo chips which were introduced earlier this year. Early unconfirmed rumors hinted that Apple was very interested in getting the Merom chips as early as possible. This rumor indicates that Apple will remain aggressive with their product line upgrades.

The first Core 2 Duo (Merom) benchmarks have already been making the rounds:

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The chip has completed a first test run in our labs and was not only more responsive and faster than the fastest Core Duo ("Yonah") processor, but consumed less power as well.

Some unconfirmed rumors as well as analyst speculation has hinted at Apple providing an upgrade to at least one of the existing Intel Macs.

AJ Muni · 12:00 AM

MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!

jholzner · Aug 4, 2006, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ Muni

MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!

I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.

Multimedia · Aug 4, 2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jholzner

I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.

Steve does not have to announce any new products to say they are going to shift to Core 2 across the board ASAP.

jholzner · Aug 4, 2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Multimedia

Steve does not have to announce any new products to say they are going to shift to Core 2 across the board ASAP.

That's very true but my response wasn't to that statement but to this one:

"MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!"

I assumed that WWDC is going to be great because of MPB Merom which I don't think will be announced.

I could be wrong.

Erasmus · Aug 4, 2006, 08:35 AM

I do not believe that Apple should wait to announce their new 64 bit systems. They should (and could) give promos of complete overhauls of their entire Mac lineup. (Final propaganda for iMac Ultra)

I think that Apple should concentrate on getting lots of switchers. Apple probably care about us old "maccies", because, of course, it is very rare for a mac user to change to using the Operating System That Must Not Be Named.

I therefore think Apple promoing iMacs, Macbooks, MBPs, MPs, MMs, etc. would be in their best interest, as potential switchers would know that Apple intends to bring out cool machines as soon as they can, if not immediately. Sure, it would impact on initial sales, as no-one would buy any of their computers between then and the shipping date, however, Apple would catch many fence-sitters who would otherwise bite the bullet and buy a much cheaper (and much more pathetic) PC after Steve's Keynote.

Wining Switchers should be Apple's goal now.

corywoolf · Aug 4, 2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jholzner

I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.

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BWhaler · Aug 4, 2006, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jholzner

I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.

I agree. Especially when you consider the retail stores. What are they going to do? Take orders? Sure, Apple does this for brand new products, but not for existing stock.

No, Apple will release the upgrade when the stores are stocked and orders can be shipped.

thefunkymunky · Aug 4, 2006, 05:35 AM

So. Errm. I have a question.

I have a MBP as in my sig. Actually that is the second one I have. First one got damaged by Apple, this second one is currently with Apple and has been for the last 4 weeks. It only went in to repair the fried BT.

Anyway. Since buying my first MBP in February and receiving the replacement in June which is now back with Apple. I have only had around 4 weeks usuage out of my machine and to this date I am still not using my MBP I originally purchased in February. Every time I call Apple to ask where my machine is they tell me that it will be with me the following week.

So what are the chances of Apple upgrading me to a new Merom MBP eh. What you think?

gnasher729 · Aug 4, 2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ Muni

MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!

This is not a question of Appleinsider being reliable, more a matter of rumor sites making a guess that is absolutely obvious. There is no way that Apple could _not_ use Merom in the future, since Intel will sell it at exactly the same price that it charges for Yonah today.

thejadedmonkey · Aug 4, 2006, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gnasher729

This is not a question of Appleinsider being reliable, more a matter of rumor sites making a guess that is absolutely obvious. There is no way that Apple could _not_ use Merom in the future, since Intel will sell it at exactly the same price that it charges for Yonah today.

Well, Steve Jobs could always announce that Apple is transitioning to PPC G6 chips, and that the x86 reign is over

puckhead193 · Aug 3, 2006, 11:32 PM

god i hope its true. joshy needs a new imac

Stridder44 · Aug 3, 2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macrumors

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The first Core 2 Duo (Merom) benchmarks have already been making the rounds

The "tests" kind of sucked and wasn't that informative. Didn't tell us a whole lot...but either way I hope they get into the MBPs!!

poppe · Aug 3, 2006, 11:42 PM

I can live with fast updates!!!! MBP Merom for college after all!!!

bradc · Aug 3, 2006, 11:42 PM

It was probably part of Intel's/Apple's bargaining chip that Apple gets quick shipments of chips I assume. Not priority over Dell, Lenovo, HP, Toshiba but maybe sufficient quantities?

Eidorian · Aug 3, 2006, 11:44 PM

Yay, September...

mvc · Aug 3, 2006, 11:45 PM

Who voted negative????? You want it slower, eh? Give the man a G3! No, a 601!

Grimace · Aug 3, 2006, 11:52 PM

I think the negative votes were from those who wanted Steve to announce Merom in updated Macs on Monday and not wait until September...

Demon Hunter · Aug 4, 2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by carletonmusic

I think the negative votes were from those who wanted Steve to announce Merom in updated Macs on Monday and not wait until September...

Yeah... this seems to favor a Paris release...

Anawrahta · Aug 3, 2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mvc

Who voted negative????? You want it slower, eh? Give the man a G3! No, a 601!

IBM apologists....

poppe · Aug 4, 2006, 12:02 AM

It is sad to have to wait till September... I wanted to show my family my MBP since they've never though of using a Mac until me

Demon Hunter · Aug 4, 2006, 12:07 AM

Announced at WWDC, released in September?

tristan · Aug 4, 2006, 12:08 AM

Wow! Tip of the hat to Apple and Intel. But why aren't the Blue Man on my TV selling the Core 2 Duo? Somebody tell them to put the LSD away and get to a studio.

And of course, nobody's talking about the elephant in the room. These new chips are SIXTY FOUR BIT BABY. Is 32-bit the new G4? Cuz we all know the G4 is the new G3.

64-bit OSX by the end of the year perhaps? With quadruple binaries to support the G4, the G5, the Core Duo, and the Core Duo 2? Or will Apple deny us our 64-bit freedom?

poppe · Aug 4, 2006, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tristan

Wow! Tip of the hat to Apple and Intel. But why aren't the Blue Man on my TV selling the Core 2 Duo? Somebody tell them to put the LSD away and get to a studio.

And of course, nobody's talking about the elephant in the room. These new chips are SIXTY FOUR BIT BABY. Is 32-bit the new G4? Cuz we all know the G4 is the new G3.

64-bit OSX by the end of the year perhaps? With quadruple binaries to support the G4, the G5, the Core Duo, and the Core Duo 2? Or will Apple deny us our 64-bit freedom?

64 Bit has been talked alot about. There is a thread called 64 Bit Core Duo (why not core 2 duo, I don't know) acctually I think, but I know nothing about it so I can't comment. It won't make 32 bit things even close to G4. 64 Bit, from what i've read, isn't really optimized until two things: the operating system is ready to manage it, and the software is designed for it. The Core 2 duo will be faster than the core duo, but for multiple reasons and not only on the 64 bit computing.

bigjohn · Aug 4, 2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mvc

Who voted negative????? You want it slower, eh? Give the man a G3! No, a 601!

he can have one my old 68k's

Aug 3, 2006, 11:26 PM	#2
AJ Muni macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Beach	MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great! __________________ Go.Getta Last edited by AJ Muni : Aug 4, 2006 at 12:00 AM.

Aug 4, 2006, 08:35 AM	#6
Erasmus macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia, Where Omnius can't find me!	I do not believe that Apple should wait to announce their new 64 bit systems. They should (and could) give promos of complete overhauls of their entire Mac lineup. (Final propaganda for iMac Ultra) I think that Apple should concentrate on getting lots of switchers. Apple probably care about us old "maccies", because, of course, it is very rare for a mac user to change to using the Operating System That Must Not Be Named. I therefore think Apple promoing iMacs, Macbooks, MBPs, MPs, MMs, etc. would be in their best interest, as potential switchers would know that Apple intends to bring out cool machines as soon as they can, if not immediately. Sure, it would impact on initial sales, as no-one would buy any of their computers between then and the shipping date, however, Apple would catch many fence-sitters who would otherwise bite the bullet and buy a much cheaper (and much more pathetic) PC after Steve's Keynote. Wining Switchers should be Apple's goal now. __________________ Had: G4 Cube Have: 2.2 Macbook Pro Want: Quad core "Sandy Bridge" Macbook Pro ASAP.

Aug 4, 2006, 05:35 AM	#9
thefunkymunky macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK	So. Errm. I have a question. I have a MBP as in my sig. Actually that is the second one I have. First one got damaged by Apple, this second one is currently with Apple and has been for the last 4 weeks. It only went in to repair the fried BT. Anyway. Since buying my first MBP in February and receiving the replacement in June which is now back with Apple. I have only had around 4 weeks usuage out of my machine and to this date I am still not using my MBP I originally purchased in February. Every time I call Apple to ask where my machine is they tell me that it will be with me the following week. So what are the chances of Apple upgrading me to a new Merom MBP eh. What you think? __________________ PSN ID: kraized \| facebook

Aug 3, 2006, 11:32 PM	#12
puckhead193 macrumors 601 Join Date: May 2004 Location: NY	god i hope its true. joshy needs a new imac __________________ 20" iMac C2D - 2.33GHz, 3 GB ram, ATI X1600 256 MB VRAM 15" pb 1.5 GHZ Rev. C 30 gig ipod 3rd gen, 60 gig 5g ipod ~ white, silver 2GB nano, 64 gig iPod Touch

Aug 3, 2006, 11:42 PM	#14
poppe macrumors 68000 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Woodland Hills	I can live with fast updates!!!! MBP Merom for college after all!!! __________________ In Stereo where supported

Aug 3, 2006, 11:42 PM	#15
bradc macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canader eh	It was probably part of Intel's/Apple's bargaining chip that Apple gets quick shipments of chips I assume. Not priority over Dell, Lenovo, HP, Toshiba but maybe sufficient quantities? __________________ Xserve, XRaid, Xasperated™ Pro. Go. Whoa.

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Eidorian macrumors G3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Indiana	Yay, September... __________________ MRoogle it! hikari T7500 2.2 GHz / 4 GB / 320 GB / GMA X3100 / 10.5.8 chobimaru Core i5 750 2.66 GHz / 4 GB / 640 GB / 4830 / Windows 7

Aug 3, 2006, 11:45 PM	#17
mvc macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Outer-Roa	How can this be negative? Who voted negative????? You want it slower, eh? Give the man a G3! No, a 601! __________________ If Apple really wanted to secure their OS to their own hardware, they might have tried something stronger than limmericks

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Aug 4, 2006, 12:02 AM	#21
poppe macrumors 68000 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Woodland Hills	It is sad to have to wait till September... I wanted to show my family my MBP since they've never though of using a Mac until me __________________ In Stereo where supported

Aug 4, 2006, 12:07 AM	#22
Demon Hunter macrumors 68020 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN	Announced at WWDC, released in September?

Aug 4, 2006, 12:08 AM	#23
tristan macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: high-rise in beautiful bethesda	Wow! Tip of the hat to Apple and Intel. But why aren't the Blue Man on my TV selling the Core 2 Duo? Somebody tell them to put the LSD away and get to a studio. And of course, nobody's talking about the elephant in the room. These new chips are SIXTY FOUR BIT BABY. Is 32-bit the new G4? Cuz we all know the G4 is the new G3. 64-bit OSX by the end of the year perhaps? With quadruple binaries to support the G4, the G5, the Core Duo, and the Core Duo 2? Or will Apple deny us our 64-bit freedom? __________________ Index Roll: Indexing on Steroids

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