Aperture 1.2 at Photokina?

[MacRumors]

While there will be no keynote address at Apple Expo Paris, Apple is planning on hosting a special event at the opening of Photokina 2006 in Germany.

Due to the photographic nature of the show, there has been speculation that Apple would be releasing an update to Aperture. One user points out that Apple's Aperture feedback page asks users what version of Aperture they are using. Included in the pop-up list is Aperture 1.2, which has not yet been released.

However, the last released version of Aperture is version 1.1.2, which is not presently listed on the feedback page. As a result, the 1.2 version number may simply be a typographical error on Apple's Aperture feedback site.

[iMeowbot]

The Apple booth is located near where Adobe, Corel and all are situated, so it really does look as though Aperture is the main reason they are attending.

On the other hand, there is a consumer aspect to this show, and one of the other big nearby exhibitors will be Nokia, so iPhone True Believers can carry on as usual with their silliness right up until the event.

[mcarnes]

It is the long awaited Apple DSLR, 25MP full frame with an interchangeable Nikon / Canon mount.

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by mcarnes

It is the long awaited Apple DSLR, 25MP full frame with an interchangeable Nikon / Canon mount.

and its going be white!!!! and black...

[~Shard~]

I don't see Apple getting into the photography space, at least in terms of releasing their own camera, but I do think that it is very likely we will see an update to Aperture. For a show of this caliber though (since many regard it as "the show" for the photography industry), you'd think and hope Apple has something fairly significant up their sleeves, or why else bother? Along these lines, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Aperture 2.0, rather than just Aperture 1.2.

[Analog Kid]

Originally Posted by ~Shard~

I don't see Apple getting into the photography space, at least in terms of releasing their own camera, but I do think that it is very likely we will see an update to Aperture. For a show of this caliber though (since many regard it as "the show" for the photography industry), you'd think and hope Apple has something fairly significant up their sleeves, or why else bother? Along these lines, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Aperture 2.0, rather than just Aperture 1.2.

Agreed. Aperture got some rough reviews when it was released... I wouldn't be surprised if they went to 2.0 just for marketing reasons-- give the impression that it's a whole new generation and a step ahead of Adobe.

[Kingsly]

Hope I don't have to buy it all over again if it goes 2.0.

[mateosaadeo]

Adobe is pushing their new program which is currently in beta, Lightroom, (I personally hate it, Aperture is much better) so it would come as no surprise if Apple released an update of Aperture.

[bigbossbmb]

I think it will be 1.2 rather than 2.0....yes, it is just not a full version update, but much of the bad press of 1.0 has been fixed (or at least alleviated) with 1.1. I hope they bring on another batch of enhancements for 1.2 so that they can make this version of the professional grade that Apple seems to hype it as.

Also, with 1.1 they actually gave back money to buyers of 1.0...they are not about to charge them again right now. It will be a little while longer before that happens.

[Kingsly]

Originally Posted by bigbossbmb

I think it will be 1.2 rather than 2.0....yes, it is just not a full version update, but much of the bad press of 1.0 has been fixed (or at least alleviated) with 1.1. I hope they bring on another batch of enhancements for 1.2 so that they can make this version of the professional grade that Apple seems to hype it as.

Also, with 1.1 they actually gave back money to buyers of 1.0...they are not about to charge them again right now. It will be a little while longer before that happens.

...good. I hope you are correct.

[CTYankee]

Aperture does need an update, badly. It is still suffering from the major misfire of v1.0. Many photographers either tried it or heard from others about it...and panned it for its mediocre RAW processing and irritating database structure. Now that the RAW issues are aleviated it still has some teething issues. The lack of a dynamic database (like iView MP) and hardware requirements. I'm currently on the fence. I like iView MP as a DAM, lightroom as a RAW processor (but can't wait for batch cropping), and PS as a final editor. If Aperture could do what LR and iView do, then I'd buy it. Otherwise I have until January to use LR for free and will probably buy iView if it looks like Aperture is still using its goofy db system.

Or....could Apple be there to show off Photoshop running in UB? If anyone in the industry could get Adobe to hurry up its Steve Jobs. You know he wants PS to run natively on the Intel Macs. Adobe stands to get a huge windfall too as all the Intel Mac users upgrade just for speed. I know Adobe has said, 2007...but it could happen.

[AlanAudio]

Hosting a special event to announce nothing more than a 0.2 incremental release doesn't make sense. They would get more negative publicity than good.

It has to be something much bigger than that.

[millypede]

Originally Posted by AlanAudio

Hosting a special event to announce nothing more than a 0.2 incremental release doesn't make sense. They would get more negative publicity than good.

It has to be something much bigger than that.

Agreed, to invite the press over will mean its going to be a new product in shape or form

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by mcarnes

It is the long awaited Apple DSLR, 25MP full frame with an interchangeable Nikon / Canon mount.

and instead of CF or SD cards, you can insert an iPod into it for storage

[Bern]

I actually would like Apple to come up with a Photoshop alternative, Adobe have been dragging the chain for way too long and now they have a virtual monopoly things won't get any better.

[Dr.Gargoyle]

I have been ranting about this in other threads, but does really a release of Aperture 1.2 alt 2.0 call for a special presentation at Photokina of all places?
Isnt that overkill in some sense? Particulary since when Aperture 1.1 was released about 6 months ago its accompanied with a significant pricedrop, which lead to rumors that Apple was about to discontinue it.
Regradless of which, is it really possible, that Apple in this short time have made such significant increments on the app that it calls for Apples first (?) presentation at Photokina?

I do think Apple are about to release a new version of Aperture. But as I see it, it has to be much more than that. Since Apple doesnt have any expertise in optics, all forms of dig cams are out of the question.

[Digitalclips]

Originally Posted by Bern

I actually would like Apple to come up with a Photoshop alternative, Adobe have been dragging the chain for way too long and now they have a virtual monopoly things won't get any better.

I'd love to believe that too but I am, unfortunately, skeptical. Apple certainly fired a shot across Adobe's bow with FCPro back when Premiere was an Apple product and now spread sheets and better WP due to enhance iWorks across MS's bow ... so why not a Photoshop replacement? ... For one thing Apple tends to start out with a consumer app such as an 'i' product and later come out with a pro version. If they are announcing something big I can't see it being a consumer level 'iPhoto-retouch' at a show like this and I certainly can't see how a pro level Photoshop killer could have got this far in secret.

There again with Core Animation and Leopard and 64 bit processing and all the rest not far off they could just blow us all away with something we never thought of! Here's hoping

[Digitalclips]

I do think Apple are about to release a new version of Aperture. But as I see it, it has to be much more than that. Since Apple doesnt have any expertise in optics, all forms of dig cams are out of the question.

Just dreaming out loud here along the above line of thought... An Apple / Canon partnership might result in something pretty cool ... Steve has always used a Canon on stage from what i can recall. Now let's dream up such a hybrid beast ...? A Rebel that wirelessly uploads to your MacBook Pro in between shots? Any other ideas?

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Originally Posted by Digitalclips

Just dreaming out loud here along the above line of thought... An Apple / Canon partnership might result in something pretty cool ... Steve has always used a Canon on stage from what i can recall. Now let's dream up such a hybrid beast ...? A Rebel that wirelessly uploads to your MacBook Pro in between shots? Any other ideas?

I doubt Apple would partner up with a camera maker. Due to the fast evolution of ccd technology, it is all about the optics today. Hence, Zeiss or Leica would be a much more natural alternative considering Apples pricelevel.
Both Zeiss and Leica have licence their optics for quite some time (Hasselblad, Nokia and Panasonic) so it could be possible for Apple to make a deal with them.
Still, I think it would be stupid for Apple to try to enter the camera market. Competing against Nikon and Canon will be very hard, let alone Leica and Hasselblad. I doubt Apple would consider selling a product that was significantly inferior of more or less all other brands.
But that is just my thought, who knows...

[Roller]

Originally Posted by Digitalclips

Just dreaming out loud here along the above line of thought... An Apple / Canon partnership might result in something pretty cool ... Steve has always used a Canon on stage from what i can recall. Now let's dream up such a hybrid beast ...? A Rebel that wirelessly uploads to your MacBook Pro in between shots? Any other ideas?

An Apple-branded pro or high-end consumer camera wouldn't make sense, even if it were compatible with systems from Canon, Nikon, or other major players. However, Apple photo accessories like a personal storage device (e.g., iPod-like device designed to rapidly back up and view digital images in the field, possibly wirelessly) might be viable.

I'm hoping for an Aperture update. However, Apple was said to have fired the Aperture team in April. I doubt if they've had time to hire another team and do a major rewrite in just a few months. From the Think Secret article dated April 27:

Perhaps the greatest hope for Aperture's future is that the application's problems are said to be so extensive that any version 2.0 would require major portions of code to be entirely rewritten. With that in mind, the bell may not yet be tolling for Aperture; an entirely new engineering team could salvage the software and bring it up to Apple's usual standards.

[conradzoo]

My Guess:

New Cinema displays.
Aperture update (1.2) with plugins ('Photoshop' functionality)

My Hopes:
A Mactablet (also working like Wacom Cintiq).

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Originally Posted by conradzoo

My Guess:

New Cinema displays.

But the Cinema displays were updated at WWDC. Don't you think it is too soon for another update?

[conradzoo]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gargoyle

But the Cinema displays were updated at WWDC. Don't you think it is too soon for another update?

That was merely a price drop.

[lilstewart]

Originally Posted by conradzoo

That was merely a price drop.

No, they updated the 20" & 23" specs.

Originally Posted by Dr.Gargoyle

But the Cinema displays were updated at WWDC. Don't you think it is too soon for another update?

Maybe they lowered the prices to get rid of inventory?

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Originally Posted by lilstewart

Maybe they lowered the prices to get rid of inventory?

As you wrote before, the Cinema displays were upgraded at WWDC. It doesnt make sense to lower the price just to get rid of an entirely new product. Besides, Cinema displays have been sold at premium before. I believe that the pricedrop was just an attempt to gain back some of the customers that bought DELL screens instead of Cinema displays.