VMWare Public Beta, Parallels Beta 2

MacRumors · Dec 22, 2006, 02:09 AM

VMWare has posted a public beta (Build 36932) of their Intel Mac virtualization software called Fusion.

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The new VMware desktop product for the Mac, codenamed Fusion, allows Intel-based Macs to run x86 operating systems, such as Windows, Linux, NetWare and Solaris, in virtual machines at the same time as Mac OS X. It is built on VMware's rock-solid and advanced desktop virtualization platform that is used by over four million users today.

The download page requires some registration to generate a Serial Number for the beta software. FAQ and release notes are available online. Key features described include:

- Assign multiple CPUs to your virtual machine
- Intel Mac support (all models)
- USB 2.0 support
- Drag/Drop file support.

Meanwhile, Parallels has been providing frequent updates for their virtualization solution for the Mac and have just released Beta 2, which brings a number of improvements including USB 2.0 support, Boot Camp partition support, and Drap/Drop support.

iW00t · Dec 22, 2006, 02:14 AM

It is now time for Parallels to die

balamw · Dec 22, 2006, 02:15 AM

Can Fusion coexist with Parallels? Or do I need to remove Parallels to install Fusion Beta?

B

DMann · Dec 22, 2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by iW00t

It is now time for Parallels to die

Let virtualization roll.........

D34thPwny · Dec 22, 2006, 02:17 AM

I wonder, will there come a day soon when I don't need to keep my PC around and up to date for gaming? 'Cause that would be really, really cool...
Admittedly I haven't looked that hard into it, but is this within the realm of possibility with these programs and the intel mac hardware?

spookje · Dec 22, 2006, 02:29 AM

Great! New beta of VMWare Fusion, somehow this application just works finer then Parallels Desktop. Also the support of Windows VMWAre Image is a killer!

iJawn108 · Dec 22, 2006, 02:30 AM

I signed up to be a beta tester months ago but no beans till now. I have parallels but im going to check this out.

syklee26 · Dec 22, 2006, 02:32 AM

this new beta for Parallels is horrible so far....it slows down my mac badly. and it does not automatically adjust the resolution either. I don't know what's going on here. maybe i did something wrong.

did anyone notice this? now I also have to lock inside the console to move the mouse whereas I didn't have to do that in Beta 1.

kroko · Dec 22, 2006, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D34thPwny

I wonder, will there come a day soon when I don't need to keep my PC around and up to date for gaming? 'Cause that would be really, really cool...
Admittedly I haven't looked that hard into it, but is this within the realm of possibility with these programs and the intel mac hardware?

ever heard of codeweavers crossover?
i have nothing but excellent experience with gaming win soft on osx. uses all my macs resources and dont need win to run pc progs.

mkjellman · Dec 22, 2006, 03:15 AM

the new coherence feature in parallels really blows anything VMWare offers right now out of the water. I do agree that Parallels seems to slow down my machine a great deal but until VMWare can offer me Coherence and BootCamp support (so i only have one windows installation) its still parallels for me!

MGLXP · Dec 22, 2006, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by syklee26

this new beta for Parallels is horrible so far....it slows down my mac badly. and it does not automatically adjust the resolution either. I don't know what's going on here. maybe i did something wrong.

did anyone notice this? now I also have to lock inside the console to move the mouse whereas I didn't have to do that in Beta 1.

When you upgrade from Beta 1, you MUST reinstall Parallels Tools in Windows. This restores that mouse functionality.

MGLXP · Dec 22, 2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by balamw

Can Fusion coexist with Parallels? Or do I need to remove Parallels to install Fusion Beta?

B

VMWare Fusion can coexist with Parallels, but of course each uses their own format.

D34thPwny · Dec 22, 2006, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kroko

ever heard of codeweavers crossover?
i have nothing but excellent experience with gaming win soft on osx. uses all my macs resources and dont need win to run pc progs.

Just from glancing over their supported apps, all but one or two of my favorite games are listed as not working... Good idea though!

iJawn108 · Dec 22, 2006, 03:27 AM

I give them credit it actually took me to the vista install screen(look at my measly specs) as apposed to parallels would just bring my whole system to a hault.

GFLPraxis · Dec 22, 2006, 04:25 AM

Can Fusion boot from Boot Camp? If so, I'll download immediately. If not...my MacBook only has a 60 GB hard drive. I'm not installing Windows TWICE.

EDIT: Just read the Parallels feature list. When the new version is released, I'll buy it.

Marx55 · Dec 22, 2006, 04:36 AM

The day in which you install any or all virtualization solutions with A SINGLE WINDOWS installation will be a gigantic leap aheap. I do not want to install the very same Windows for each and every virtualuzation that I want to try or have! Time is limited and disk space is also limited.

aspro · Dec 22, 2006, 04:53 AM

It will be interesting to see how this competition plays out, smaller Parallels with headstart and more interesting features versus the industry behemoth VMWare with its much greater experience and resources.

I'm personally rooting for Parallels

MacsRgr8 · Dec 22, 2006, 05:03 AM

Hmm... anyone care to list the pros and cons of both?

I have used Parallels quite a bit, but I wonder why I should try VMWare (apart from the fact that it's fun to do...

)

Aetles · Dec 22, 2006, 05:41 AM

I'm very excited about this "Drap/Drop support"

Hoges · Dec 22, 2006, 05:42 AM

If I read correctly then Parallels now does what Crossover does. That is run a PC app in Mac OS X. Anyone know what the caveats are?

mirus82 · Dec 22, 2006, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoges

If I read correctly then Parallels now does what Crossover does. That is run a PC app in Mac OS X. Anyone know what the caveats are?

No, it's not the same thing. With the Coherence mode you are always running Windows (instead of Creossover that uses Windows-like API, not Windows) but Parallels hides background, start menu, ecc and shows you only the application's window.

aspro · Dec 22, 2006, 06:12 AM

A major difference is that Crossover Office does not require a copy of Windows, whilst Parallels does.

kroko · Dec 22, 2006, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by D34thPwny

Just from glancing over their supported apps, all but one or two of my favorite games are listed as not working... Good idea though!

ALL the games im playing through crossover are not in the suported app list. the list contains apps that are tested by codeweavers.
for example- when i launched crossover for the very first time i tried to install counterstrike. cs worked on maxed out quality. perfect!
and you don't deed to install m$win
and the apps are opening just like normal osx apps.
you don't mess up your file system. there is just one folder containing crossover and all the installed apps.
hmm, i cant think fast enough to tell how GREAT crossover is

give a try (60 days for free)
and just read the manual carefully

Glenny2lappies · Dec 22, 2006, 06:48 AM

Parallels are going to have to work hard to maintain their market.

Whilst a casual VM user will have a choice between Parallels & VMWare, anyone in the corporate space will find the cross-platform use of VMWare very compelling. I've used VMWare for years on Windows and have lots of different corporate VM images. Moving to the Mac meant using only Parallels so I had to re-create the VMs. But now there's a choice.

Just look at the array of virtual appliances. Wow! I've not seen these before and really appreciate the idea that I could load up a whole range of pre-configured VMs - especially the Linuxes.

I've enjoyed using Parallels and feel a degree of sympathy with them in a kind of David and Goliath way. But struth, the big boy's coming back into the playground and is really going to really fight for the market which VMWare see as theirs.

bigandy · Dec 22, 2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspro

A major difference is that Crossover Office does not require a copy of Windows, whilst Parallels does.

yeah, but crossover + office = not a fully working copy of said microsoft suite.

Parallels and VMWare both offer virtualisation if the processor supports it properly (some of the Core Duo machines don't seem to).

Crossover uses Windows libraries to run the applications in a 'container'.

Dec 22, 2006, 02:15 AM	#3
balamw macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New England, USA	Can Fusion coexist with Parallels? Or do I need to remove Parallels to install Fusion Beta? B __________________ UMBP (15" SD 2.8 GHz), UMB (13" 2.4 GHz), iMac (17" Yonah), 16GB iPhone 3G, 8GB 3G Nano, Airport Extreme, Time Capsule, TV

Dec 22, 2006, 02:30 AM	#7
iJawn108 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2006	I signed up to be a beta tester months ago but no beans till now. I have parallels but im going to check this out. __________________ Black MacBook \| Core Duo 2 GHz \| 2 GB Ram \| 320 GB HDD \| OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 - iPod Touch \| 16 GB Camino OpenSolaris

Dec 22, 2006, 03:27 AM	#14
iJawn108 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2006	I give them credit it actually took me to the vista install screen(look at my measly specs) as apposed to parallels would just bring my whole system to a hault. __________________ Black MacBook \| Core Duo 2 GHz \| 2 GB Ram \| 320 GB HDD \| OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 - iPod Touch \| 16 GB Camino OpenSolaris

Dec 22, 2006, 04:25 AM	#15
GFLPraxis macrumors 601 Join Date: Mar 2004	Can Fusion boot from Boot Camp? If so, I'll download immediately. If not...my MacBook only has a 60 GB hard drive. I'm not installing Windows TWICE. EDIT: Just read the Parallels feature list. When the new version is released, I'll buy it. __________________ Nintendo Players - the Ultimate Nintendo Resource MacBook CD/2GHz/2GB/160GB/SD Hackintosh Core 2 Quad/2.4 GHz/4GB/660GB/8800GT 16 GB iPhone

Dec 22, 2006, 04:53 AM	#17
aspro macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hobart, Australia	It will be interesting to see how this competition plays out, smaller Parallels with headstart and more interesting features versus the industry behemoth VMWare with its much greater experience and resources. I'm personally rooting for Parallels __________________ 13" Macbook [2.16Ghz/2GB/120GB/Mac OSX 10.5.1/iPod classic 80GB]

Dec 22, 2006, 02:14 AM	#2
iW00t Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Defenders of Apple Guild	It is now time for Parallels to die

Dec 22, 2006, 02:17 AM	#5
D34thPwny macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA, in between semesters.	I wonder, will there come a day soon when I don't need to keep my PC around and up to date for gaming? 'Cause that would be really, really cool... Admittedly I haven't looked that hard into it, but is this within the realm of possibility with these programs and the intel mac hardware?

Dec 22, 2006, 02:29 AM	#6
spookje macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2006	Great! New beta of VMWare Fusion, somehow this application just works finer then Parallels Desktop. Also the support of Windows VMWAre Image is a killer!

Dec 22, 2006, 02:32 AM	#8
syklee26 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2005	this new beta for Parallels is horrible so far....it slows down my mac badly. and it does not automatically adjust the resolution either. I don't know what's going on here. maybe i did something wrong. did anyone notice this? now I also have to lock inside the console to move the mouse whereas I didn't have to do that in Beta 1.

Dec 22, 2006, 03:15 AM	#10
mkjellman macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2003	the new coherence feature in parallels really blows anything VMWare offers right now out of the water. I do agree that Parallels seems to slow down my machine a great deal but until VMWare can offer me Coherence and BootCamp support (so i only have one windows installation) its still parallels for me!

Dec 22, 2006, 04:36 AM	#16
Marx55 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2005	The day in which you install any or all virtualization solutions with A SINGLE WINDOWS installation will be a gigantic leap aheap. I do not want to install the very same Windows for each and every virtualuzation that I want to try or have! Time is limited and disk space is also limited.

Dec 22, 2006, 05:03 AM	#18
MacsRgr8 macrumors 601 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Netherlands	Hmm... anyone care to list the pros and cons of both? I have used Parallels quite a bit, but I wonder why I should try VMWare (apart from the fact that it's fun to do... ) __________________ Drag and Drop for Windows users: DRAG your peecee off your desk, and DROP it in the trash.

Dec 22, 2006, 05:41 AM	#19
Aetles macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Umeå, Sweden	I'm very excited about this "Drap/Drop support"

Dec 22, 2006, 05:42 AM	#20
Hoges macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney	Parallels seems to eclipse Crossover? If I read correctly then Parallels now does what Crossover does. That is run a PC app in Mac OS X. Anyone know what the caveats are?

Dec 22, 2006, 06:12 AM	#22
aspro macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hobart, Australia	A major difference is that Crossover Office does not require a copy of Windows, whilst Parallels does. __________________ 13" Macbook [2.16Ghz/2GB/120GB/Mac OSX 10.5.1/iPod classic 80GB]

Dec 22, 2006, 06:48 AM	#24
Glenny2lappies macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brighton, UK	Parallels are going to have to work hard to maintain their market. Whilst a casual VM user will have a choice between Parallels & VMWare, anyone in the corporate space will find the cross-platform use of VMWare very compelling. I've used VMWare for years on Windows and have lots of different corporate VM images. Moving to the Mac meant using only Parallels so I had to re-create the VMs. But now there's a choice. Just look at the array of virtual appliances. Wow! I've not seen these before and really appreciate the idea that I could load up a whole range of pre-configured VMs - especially the Linuxes. I've enjoyed using Parallels and feel a degree of sympathy with them in a kind of David and Goliath way. But struth, the big boy's coming back into the playground and is really going to really fight for the market which VMWare see as theirs.

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