Final Boot Camp To Be Offered To Tiger Users For $30?

MacRumors · Jan 21, 2007, 12:49 PM

MacScoop claims to have uncovered a report that indicates Apple may offer the final version of its popular Boot Camp software for users of Mac OS 10.4 "Tiger" for $29.99 upon its release when Leopard ships.

Boot Camp, currently in public beta, allows Intel Mac owners to boot their machine into Microsoft Windows XP. The terms of the public beta expire upon the next release of the software or September 30, 2007, whichever comes first.

If true, the move would be reminiscent of Apple deciding to offer iChat AV for Mac OS 10.2 Jaguar users for a $29.99 upgrade fee after a public beta, whereas users upgrading to Mac OS 10.3 Panther received the software included in the OS. Boot Camp will be included with Mac OS 10.5 Leopard.

mintlivedotcom · Jan 21, 2007, 12:50 PM

Buy Leopard!

Gherkin · Jan 21, 2007, 12:51 PM

Will you be able to use Vista with Boot Camp?

Billicus · Jan 21, 2007, 12:51 PM

I see this as neither good nor bad but I don't see why owners of Intel Macs *wouldn't* want to upgrade to 10.5...

pdpfilms · Jan 21, 2007, 12:54 PM

I don't really like this whole thing that Apple's doing...

Apple giveth (draft-N, BootCamp), and then Apple taketh away ($1.99 charge, $30 charge).

DMann · Jan 21, 2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Macrumors

MacScoop claims to have uncovered a report that indicates Apple may offer the final version of its popular Boot Camp software for users of Mac OS 10.4 "Tiger" for $29.99 upon its release when Leopard ships.

Boot Camp, currently in public beta, allows Intel Mac owners to boot their machine into Microsoft Windows XP. The terms of the public beta expire upon the next release of the software or September 30, 2007, whichever comes first.

If true, the move would be reminiscent of Apple deciding to offer iChat AV for Mac OS 10.2 Jaguar users for a $29.99 upgrade fee after a public beta, whereas users upgrading to Mac OS 10.3 Panther received the software included in the OS. Boot Camp will be included with Mac OS 10.5 Leopard.

An incentive for 10.5 for sure.

mkrishnan · Jan 21, 2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pdpfilms

Apple giveth (draft-N, BootCamp), and then Apple taketh away ($1.99 charge, $30 charge).

I don't think you can compare. Boot Camp as released was ALWAYS a public beta. It was never offered with the indication that it would be a permanently free program.

Although...given what it does, what really prevents you from just continuing to use the Beta? Once you have Windows installed, BootCamp isn't doing anything for you any longer.

Hopefully, though, the final release will come with a complete set of drivers for any Apple hardware that is not natively supported in Vista (and also provide them as Vista 32 and 64 bit binaries to the extent that this is necessary).

ppc_michael · Jan 21, 2007, 01:00 PM

When I first read this, I was thinking it was saying Apple would charge for Bootcamp, period. Like, any OS release.

But now I see they would be charging for 10.4 but not 10.5. And I think that's semi-reasonable.

twoodcc · Jan 21, 2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mintlivedotcom

Buy Leopard!

that's my plan

longofest · Jan 21, 2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gherkin

Will you be able to use Vista with Boot Camp?

We're expecting that to be the case, but nothing positive yet that I know of.

bobber205 · Jan 21, 2007, 01:04 PM

30 dollars is very reasonable. Especially if it supports all kinds of winblows, including Vista.

longofest · Jan 21, 2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pdpfilms

I don't really like this whole thing that Apple's doing...

Apple giveth (draft-N, BootCamp), and then Apple taketh away ($1.99 charge, $30 charge).

The "N" thing is really totally different in my view. This more lines up with previous practices, and makes more sense with what the industry does as a whole. You may put out a beta and get people hooked, and then charge for the final release. That's okay.

The N thing is different because they are kinda nickle-and-diming you, and they had already put the darn hardware in the system, so it really SHOULD be included in the software. Verizon got in trouble for this kind of situation with their V710 phones from Motorola, where they crippled a fully-funcitonal bluetooth phone. Yes, it had its differences, but it was similar in some respects.

jive · Jan 21, 2007, 01:06 PM

If BootCamp allowed the use of a BT keyboard then I'd buy it. But it doesn't. So bleh.

mrkramer · Jan 21, 2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdpfilms

I don't really like this whole thing that Apple's doing...

Apple giveth (draft-N, BootCamp), and then Apple taketh away ($1.99 charge, $30 charge).

I don't remember that anybody could use the draft-N card before they paid the fee, and BootCamp wasn't ever said that it would always be free.

Small White Car · Jan 21, 2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdpfilms

I don't really like this whole thing that Apple's doing...

Apple giveth (draft-N, BootCamp), and then Apple taketh away ($1.99 charge, $30 charge).

First of all, Apple NEVER "gaveth" draft-n. No one had it before they charged for it. So saying they took it away is nonsense.

And as for Boot Camp, it's no different than the 30-day free trial of Aperture. The only difference is the free-trial lasted a year instead of a month.

You're telling me that you're REALLY going to complain about getting a year-long free trial of a piece of software? That seems pretty ungrateful to me. You would have been happier if you had to pay from day 1? Why??

mkrishnan · Jan 21, 2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jive

If BootCamp allowed the use of a BT keyboard then I'd buy it. But it doesn't. So bleh.

My impression is that lots of people have installed with a BT kb, even though it isn't officially supported?

iJawn108 · Jan 21, 2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gherkin

Will you be able to use Vista with Boot Camp?

Believe me you don't want to, it's totall garbage I ran it for a day and found it very annoying with all the warnings ect. It doesn't justify me spending $300 on it. Not to mention the DRM BS with it, if Apple put that into Leopard(whcih I have a fear of) I won't be upgrading and keeping tiger.

It's good they are offering this though

Small White Car · Jan 21, 2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by longofest

The N thing is different because they are kinda nickle-and-diming you, and they had already put the darn hardware in the system, so it really SHOULD be included in the software.

They're worried they'll get in trouble with the government if they give it away for free. I don't think anyone really knows if that's true or not, but it's POSSIBLE, so they're just playing it safe. I don't blame them for that.

Congress really needs to get off it's ass and clarify this situation, though...giving this away for free ISN'T what they were trying to stop with recent laws they passed, but it's getting caught up in it since there's no exemption for it specifically listed in the law.

EagerDragon · Jan 21, 2007, 01:11 PM

There will be a lot in Leopard to cause people to upgrade, as such the market for 10.4.x that want to do bootcamp and not upgrade to Leopard IMHO will be very small.

Sounds like a non-starter.

Hertog · Jan 21, 2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mkrishnan

I don't think you can compare. Boot Camp as released was ALWAYS a public beta. It was never offered with the indication that it would be a permanently free program.

Although...given what it does, what really prevents you from just continuing to use the Beta? Once you have Windows installed, BootCamp isn't doing anything for you any longer.

Therefore, I can imagine the Leopard Boot Camp being more then the current Beta. Perhaps the rumored Virtualisation bit is included as well, for instance.

apple_iBoy · Jan 21, 2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jive

If BootCamp allowed the use of a BT keyboard then I'd buy it. But it doesn't. So bleh.

My Mac Pro only came with a BT keyboard, and I've been able to use it just fine...

Eidorian · Jan 21, 2007, 01:13 PM

I'm going to buy Leopard for $69. I think I don't have to worry about this...

slughead · Jan 21, 2007, 01:28 PM

$30 for what?

I plan to upgrade to leopard anyway, but this is a bunch of crap!

Bootcamp is a cheap hack with NOTHING real to offer except a bootable PC and mac partition on the same hard drive.

If it didn't exist, a 3rd party would've come up with it.

What could the full version POSSIBLY offer?

balamw · Jan 21, 2007, 01:29 PM

So, unless the final Boot Camp has new functionality, basically it'll be $30 for the re-partitioning tool and the drivers?

The firmware, which will ship with the new Macs is he thing that does the heavy lifting, and you can install Windows without Boot Camp Assistant.

A bit steeper than I'd like, since I bought Parallels for $49, but still good news for those who want BC but don't want Leopard for one reason or another.

B

unsaltedrhino · Jan 21, 2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by apple_iBoy

My Mac Pro only came with a BT keyboard, and I've been able to use it just fine...

Yup, no problems with using Apple BT Keyboard and Mouse using the latest Bootcamp Windows drivers...

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MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Final Boot Camp To Be Offered To Tiger Users For $30? MacScoop claims to have uncovered a report that indicates Apple may offer the final version of its popular Boot Camp software for users of Mac OS 10.4 "Tiger" for $29.99 upon its release when Leopard ships. Boot Camp, currently in public beta, allows Intel Mac owners to boot their machine into Microsoft Windows XP. The terms of the public beta expire upon the next release of the software or September 30, 2007, whichever comes first. If true, the move would be reminiscent of Apple deciding to offer iChat AV for Mac OS 10.2 Jaguar users for a $29.99 upgrade fee after a public beta, whereas users upgrading to Mac OS 10.3 Panther received the software included in the OS. Boot Camp will be included with Mac OS 10.5 Leopard.

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balamw macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New England, USA	So, unless the final Boot Camp has new functionality, basically it'll be $30 for the re-partitioning tool and the drivers? The firmware, which will ship with the new Macs is he thing that does the heavy lifting, and you can install Windows without Boot Camp Assistant. A bit steeper than I'd like, since I bought Parallels for $49, but still good news for those who want BC but don't want Leopard for one reason or another. B __________________ UMBP (15" SD 2.8 GHz), UMB (13" 2.4 GHz), iMac (17" Yonah), 16GB iPhone 3G, 8GB 3G Nano, Airport Extreme, Time Capsule, TV

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