Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended - Coming Soon

MacRumors · Mar 8, 2007, 02:07 AM

Adobe announced that their spring release of Adobe Photoshop CS3 will bring a new "Extended" edition aimed at 3D and video professionals. Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended will include all the features of the standard version, but also incorporate several new features:

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Render and incorporate 3D images into your 2D composites. Stop time with easy editing of motion graphics on video layers. And probe your images with measurement, analysis, and visualization tools.

Mac customers, in particular, have been waiting for Adobe Photoshop CS3 as it represents the first version of Photoshop that will run natively (at full speed) on Apple's Intel Macs. A beta version of CS3 has been available since December.

Adobe is offering a FAQ (pdf) about the new Extended edition. No pricing announcements have been made yet, but the release has been reported to be on March 27th at a special event in New York.

iAlan · 02:15 AM

As discussed elsewhere in related ythreads, many pro users have been waiting for this -- and other pro software -- to run natively on the Intel based Mac's. It is great news that the wait is now over -- and I am hoping Apple comes out with new pro machines in the not too distant future.

I remember seeing stats somewhere from a survey of pro users as to when they would shift to the Intel based Mac Pro's. I can't remember the exact results (and can't find the survey anywhere) but a majority of users said they were waiting for Photoshop and other software to be native. But if there is no news of new Mac Pro's how long will people hold out even after the release of key pro software?

I know I am waiting for the next gen Intel Mac Pro's to replace my G5 tower -- but I am not a pro user -- I just want a new machine!

I hope Apple and Adobe have been working together around the release (and shipping) dates so that those of us waiting can have all new stuff to play with

DMann · Mar 8, 2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iAlan

As discussed elsewhere, many pro users have been waiting for this -- and other pro software. I am hoping Apple comes out with new pro machines in the not too distant future

All the pieces are beginning to come together.......

pdpfilms · Mar 8, 2007, 02:14 AM

So is this a photoshop with a dumbed-down after effects built-in?

powermac_daddy · Mar 8, 2007, 02:28 AM

I'm going to China in June. I should pick up a copy of CS3. It's only 10RMB, $1.50 or so.

zigziggityzoo · Mar 8, 2007, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by powermac_daddy

I'm going to China in June. I should pick up a copy of CS3. It's only 10RMB, $1.50 or so.

Do yourself a favor and buy 100 and sell em on eBay. (or through PM's Here!)

Just kidding...of course.

ftrtrk · Mar 8, 2007, 03:32 AM

I don't understand this,

is the new feature supposed to be video editing software like FC???

Apple and Adobe wouldn't want to be competitors in this area, right? Shouldn't the new FCP and FCP:Extreme be able to do whatever the new CS3 add-on is?

Analog Kid · Mar 8, 2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ftrtrk

I don't understand this,

is the new feature supposed to be video editing software like FC???

Apple and Adobe wouldn't want to be competitors in this area, right? Shouldn't the new FCP and FCP:Extreme be able to do whatever the new CS3 add-on is?

Adobe Premier is their video editing app, and Adobe dropped support for Mac around the time FC came to be. They're now bringing it back to the Mac platform, and yes, they're competing. I'm guessing Adobe thought their customers would switch to Windows and stick with Premier, but it probably didn't work out that way.

This is another one of those dicey situations where Apple is competing aggressively against one of their major 3rd party developers. So far it all seems good though...

joshysquashy · Mar 8, 2007, 05:20 AM

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In addition,
both versions of Photoshop run on ... all editions of the new Windows VistaTM
operating system, except the Starter and Home Basic editions. Detailed system requirements will be available in Spring 2007.

Sounds like many vista users are gonna get short changed - it won't run on Vista Home Basic or Starter, they will be forced to upgrade if they want Photoshop!

Why are Adobe doing this? What is missing from these products that make it unable to run on them? So glad there will only ever be 1 version of Mac OS X

ATG · Mar 8, 2007, 06:09 AM

Sounds like a mini after effects to me.

Why not just improve on PS integration with AE? Less work and more valuable because AE will always have more features than this PS "Extended".

Chaszmyr · Mar 8, 2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joshysquashy

Sounds like many vista users are gonna get short changed - it won't run on Vista Home Basic or Starter, they will be forced to upgrade if they want Photoshop!

Why are Adobe doing this? What is missing from these products that make it unable to run on them? So glad there will only ever be 1 version of Mac OS X

The real question is why does Microsoft rip off their customers by severely crippling the versions that most people buy?

hvfsl · Mar 8, 2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

The real question is why does Microsoft rip off their customers by severely crippling the versions that most people buy?

Because they don't really want you to buy those versions, but the more expensive versions instead. They have just run out of new and interesting things to do, so they have moved onto the squeezing as much money out of people stage.

AidenShaw · Mar 8, 2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

The real question is why does Microsoft rip off their customers by severely crippling the versions that most people buy?

Let's see, Amazon is selling Photoshop CS2 for $579.

If you check Dell's or HP's websites, for example, you'll see that if you spend as much on the Vista PC as you spend for the Photoshop license you'll probably get Vista Home Premium with the package. Some deals have Home Premium and an LCD monitor for the price of the Photoshop license.

Even on the $399 PCs, upgrading to Home Premium bumps the price to $429.

More to the point, it looks like any Vista PC that you'd want to use for Photoshop (for example, one with a dual-core CPU) will have at least Home Premium as standard. Home Basic really only shows up with low end systems.

The term "rip off" isn't really that appropriate.

SiliconAddict · Mar 8, 2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

The real question is why does Microsoft rip off their customers by severely crippling the versions that most people buy?

#1 - starter isn't even available to your average customer. Starter is what gets bundled with these uber cheap PC's being sold to 3rd world countries at stupid discount prices. All in the name of trying to counter the "free" OS's that are out there.

#2 - 99.97% of systems that run Home Basic probably won't even run Photoshop. Starter is designed for the 5 year old PC that can barely run XP let alone vista. Add to that the fact that pretty much any system shipping with Vista is shipping with Premium or better. Also Basic is designed for people who use there computer for 4 or so things. Web, mail, photos, chat, etc. The target market isn't for people wanting to use Photoshop.

Someone is making a mountain out of an anthill. Yes its retarded in the fact that MS is neutering the OS simply to differentiate each version. The core code is the exact same from version to version. I've never been a fan of this type of selling strategy, be it MS or any other software manufacturer.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread on Photoshop. I can't afford Photoshop. And realistically I don't need even half the features of Photoshop. I would really like to see an updated version of Photoshop Elements for Mac.

RedTomato · Mar 8, 2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by joshysquashy

So glad there will only ever be 1 version of Mac OS X

No there won't. Expect Mac OS 11 to come out in several years time. Maybe 2012 or something like that. It's anyone's guess what it'll be called - OSX2 or OSX Pro - but it's coming.

A bit of history:

Apple System Software 1 came out in 1984
Apple System Software 2 came out in 1985
...
...
Apple OS 9 came out in 1999
OS X came out in 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS_X

Only a fool would say that Steve Jobs doesn't have a team working on Apple OS 11 right now.

guzhogi · Mar 8, 2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RedTomato

No there won't. Expect Mac OS 11 to come out in several years time. Maybe 2012 or something like that. It's anyone's guess what it'll be called - OSX2 or OSX Pro - but it's coming.

A bit of history:

Apple System Software 1 came out in 1984
Apple System Software 2 came out in 1985
...
...
Apple OS 9 came out in 1999
OS X came out in 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS_X

Only a fool would say that Steve Jobs doesn't have a team working on Apple OS 11 right now.

You are right in that there are different "versions" of OS X, as in 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, etc., but that's not what he meant. By "version" he means there's just one kind of of Mac OS X available now (OK, 2 if you count server), instead of like Windows Vista which has starter, home basic, ultimate, and whatever.

zblaxberg · Mar 8, 2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Macrumors

[url=http://www.macrumors.com]No pricing announcements have been made yet, but the release has been

This is what I'm worried about...there's so many programs...how much will this cost?

aquaibm · Mar 8, 2007, 07:18 AM

It sounds great!

celticshade · Mar 8, 2007, 01:05 PM

It seems from the Adobe PDF that Windows Vista™ Starter and Home Basic editions will not be supported running Photoshop CS3 and Photoshop CS3 Extended.

ijimk · 02:25 PM

I wonder what the price difference will be.

Maccus Aurelius · Mar 8, 2007, 02:16 PM

I'm hoping that they price it around the same as CS2. Damn Adobe and their market domination, they charge whatever they please, and we pay for it.

RedTomato · Mar 8, 2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccus Aurelius

Damn Adobe and their market domination, they charge whatever they please, and we pay for it.

Not really. The shiver me timbers and a bottle of rum option is always available if they price it too high. I've been told that's partly why they created PS Elements - to offer a legal option to people who couldn't afford the full suite (and get their money).

I suspect 90% of the stuff in PS is relatively cheap to create, or has already paid for itself in older versions. That's what went into PSE. The remaining 10% is probably where the real money and hard professional effort went into, and is being kept for the full CS.

Cult Follower · Mar 10, 2007, 10:50 PM

I'm glad to see adobe is changing things up a bit, but I wish they would hurry it up...I guess its better to have a stable release then for them to push it out quickly.

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iAlan macrumors 65816 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Location:	As discussed elsewhere in related ythreads, many pro users have been waiting for this -- and other pro software -- to run natively on the Intel based Mac's. It is great news that the wait is now over -- and I am hoping Apple comes out with new pro machines in the not too distant future. I remember seeing stats somewhere from a survey of pro users as to when they would shift to the Intel based Mac Pro's. I can't remember the exact results (and can't find the survey anywhere) but a majority of users said they were waiting for Photoshop and other software to be native. But if there is no news of new Mac Pro's how long will people hold out even after the release of key pro software? I know I am waiting for the next gen Intel Mac Pro's to replace my G5 tower -- but I am not a pro user -- I just want a new machine! I hope Apple and Adobe have been working together around the release (and shipping) dates so that those of us waiting can have all new stuff to play with __________________ * real name Alan - if that isn't obvious Last edited by iAlan : Mar 8, 2007 at 02:15 AM.

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celticshade macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA	Windows Vista™ Starter and Home Basic editions are out of luck! It seems from the Adobe PDF that Windows Vista™ Starter and Home Basic editions will not be supported running Photoshop CS3 and Photoshop CS3 Extended.

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ijimk macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Here	I wonder what the price difference will be. __________________ ijimk 60 gig iPod 5g; iPod shuffle; dual 1.8 ghz G5 nVidia 6800, 2 gig ram; 20" Cinema display; 1.8 ghz Macbook Pro Last edited by ijimk : Mar 8, 2007 at 02:25 PM.

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Cult Follower macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Dakota	I'm glad to see adobe is changing things up a bit, but I wish they would hurry it up...I guess its better to have a stable release then for them to push it out quickly. __________________ If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right. - Steve Jobs

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pdpfilms macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vermontana	So is this a photoshop with a dumbed-down after effects built-in?

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powermac_daddy Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia & Northern California	I'm going to China in June. I should pick up a copy of CS3. It's only 10RMB, $1.50 or so.

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ftrtrk macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2006	I don't understand this, is the new feature supposed to be video editing software like FC??? Apple and Adobe wouldn't want to be competitors in this area, right? Shouldn't the new FCP and FCP:Extreme be able to do whatever the new CS3 add-on is?

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ATG macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2005	Sounds like a mini after effects to me. Why not just improve on PS integration with AE? Less work and more valuable because AE will always have more features than this PS "Extended".

Mar 8, 2007, 07:18 AM	#18
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Maccus Aurelius macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY	I'm hoping that they price it around the same as CS2. Damn Adobe and their market domination, they charge whatever they please, and we pay for it.