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Old Aug 7, 2007, 07:48 PM   #1
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August 7th Updates: iMacs, iLife '08, iWork '08, Mac Mini and More...



Apple introduced quite a few updates today, so we summarized them here to make sure you didn't miss any of them:

iMacs - brushed metal, with thin keyboard, up to 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme Processor. (unboxing)
iLife '08 - completely new iMovie and updated iApps (video tour)
iWork '08 - updated Keynote, Pages and new spreadsheet called Numbers. Downloadable demo available.
.Mac - personal domains, increased storage (10GB) and transfer limit (100GB), Web Gallery (example)
Mac mini - Core 2 Duo processors at 1.83GHz/2.0GHz.
Airport Extreme - now with Gigabit ethernet.
Mac Pro RAID - build-to-order RAID card for $999,..

Individual stories are linked above.

Quicktime video of event now available.

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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:01 PM   #2
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steve seemed either really depressed, or really tired during his keynote...
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:06 PM   #3
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It was okay… I guess… nothing special…

But I want to know how "good" the ATi card is – in general, as well as compared to the one in the MBPs!

Now, I want the new 24" iMac… but, I just can't justify upgrading… unless the ATi card is worth it for gaming?
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:07 PM   #4
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Were those photos taken with an iPhone by any chance?
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:08 PM   #5
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Is the keynote available for download anywhere? I have fairly slow internet at the moment and when I try to watch it is unbearably choppy. Thanks.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:07 PM   #6
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Overpriced, underpowered

Only 1GB ram? Who is going to play over 1700$ for a computer with just 1GB ram?

No dvd burner on the mac mini? Well, not much of a media center computer, is it?

This is sad...
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:35 PM   #7
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Only 1GB ram? Who is going to play over 1700$ for a computer with just 1GB ram?

No dvd burner on the mac mini? Well, not much of a media center computer, is it?

This is sad...
What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....

iWork and iWeb are great on the other hand.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:37 PM   #8
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What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....
Apple, like ALL the other OEMs rips you off on the accessories/RAM, if you don't like the price buy it elsewhere .
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 03:33 AM   #9
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Apple, like ALL the other OEMs rips you off on the accessories/RAM, if you don't like the price buy it elsewhere .
It is really overpriced though. I can get the same for €220.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:42 PM   #10
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Maybe I'm missing something...

... but there is no way to actually download or view the presentation on the linked page?

Edit: Um... I figured it out, but it isn't working for me either. (Hint for anyone else who needs help: click the white space just after the end of the description paragraph)

Edit again: Nevermind, unigolyn posted the correct link:

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/a...49_220_ref.mov
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 03:37 AM   #11
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What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....

iWork and iWeb are great on the other hand.
2x 2GB dimms are expensive anyway, ram is not cheap these days.

Apple are marking down the machines, so they make money on upgrades like any other computer company.

Go look at any of the nice looking pcs, they are just as pricey or more pricey that apple.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 11:06 AM   #12
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What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....

iWork and iWeb are great on the other hand.
So use memory from Crucial or other third party.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 11:53 AM   #13
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What dissapoints me even more is the price of memory upgrade ... 4gb of memory costs 850$ (yes, 850$). But well, Macs just are overpriced, I just cannot used to it ....

iWork and iWeb are great on the other hand.
I just checked at OWC and they have 2gb modules for $119 each. That' makes the 4Gb memory for $238 and you can return the 1 GB module for a rebate.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:37 PM   #14
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No dvd burner on the mac mini? Well, not much of a media center computer, is it?
This is sad...
Mac mini's have always had a DVD burner option!
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:41 PM   #15
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Only 1GB ram? Who is going to play over 1700$ for a computer with just 1GB ram?
Now all applications that you might want are universal (iWork 08 is so much better than Office its not even funny, and even slowcoach MS will have Office universal in 6 months) this means 1GB RAM is fine on a consumer machine. Sure 2GB will get you better performance (I have 2GB in both my Macs) but 1GB is an adequate minimum.
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Now all applications that you might want are universal (iWork 08 is so much better than Office its not even funny, and even slowcoach MS will have Office universal in 6 months) this means 1GB RAM is fine on a consumer machine. Sure 2GB will get you better performance (I have 2GB in both my Macs) but 1GB is an adequate minimum.
But since 2 GiB is less than $100 at Apple's volume discounts, you're still getting <taken advantage of>.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 10:34 PM   #17
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But since 2 GiB is less than $100 at Apple's volume discounts, you're still getting <taken advantage of>.
All I ever read from you is anti-Apple BS. What's your trip? You obviously have a good technical grasp of things, but it is always negative. What happened, did they whack you?
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Now all applications that you might want are universal (iWork 08 is so much better than Office its not even funny, and even slowcoach MS will have Office universal in 6 months) this means 1GB RAM is fine on a consumer machine. Sure 2GB will get you better performance (I have 2GB in both my Macs) but 1GB is an adequate minimum.
yeah, this isnt vista were talking about here. Ive got vista installed on my mac pro which has 8 gigs of ram. Bastard uses 900 megs of memory eith no apps running! Don't know what the deal is.
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yeah, this isnt vista were talking about here. Ive got vista installed on my mac pro which has 8 gigs of ram. Bastard uses 900 megs of memory eith no apps running! Don't know what the deal is.
Vista with Aero on uses slightly less than 500MB here. A lot, but not as much as on your computer apparently. Possibly you've got some other stuff loaded?
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steve seemed either really depressed, or really tired during his keynote...
He was depressed because he didn't get to talk about the iPhone.

But seriously he just doesn't have the spunk he used to.
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I originally wasn't crazy about the new iMac, but after seeing it in action in the iLife 08 tour it looks really sweet.

Love it or hate it these iMacs are going to fly off store shelves.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 08:58 PM   #22
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 09:39 PM   #23
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steve seemed either really depressed, or really tired during his keynote...
I've noticed this for a while already. I would not say that he is depressed though.

I believe Steve Jobs is in the computer industry not because he loves computers, but because computers in the early 80s were the best way to make an impact. I think he made pretty clear by what he said to John Sculley in the early 80s. "Do you want to sell sugar water for the rest of your life, or do you want to change the world?". That is what it's all about for Jobs, changing the world.

You are confusing his lack of enthusiasm with desktops for depression. Don't get me wrong, he still loves those products. But it's 2007 and it's not about desktop computers anymore. Even when you create the best desktop computer (which Apple has done with the iMac in my opinion) it won't change the world.

Nowadays it's about personal/mobile devices and media. Those devices have are changing the world again, like personal computers did in the 80s. Devices that allow you to access and create information, anywhere. That's why Jobs loves to talk about the iPhone and before that the iPod. It are Apple's first steps into new world-changing technology. The new reasons why Jobs is in the business.
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I have to say that I was pretty disappointed - glossy screen, lame ATI board for the iMac and a poor mini update. Don't really care for iLife and iWork since I never use them. But the worst thing was that the Apple store did not have anything to show today. You have to wait till tomorrow to see the new iMac and keyboard in the store in Ann Arbor.

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