2600xt?

I'mAMac · Aug 9, 2007, 12:48 PM

On www.macmall.com it says that the 20" 2.4 comes with a 2600 XT and not a pro. Can anyone else confirm this or did they just make a mistake. That would be a nice upgrade if they did that.
Here is the link http://www.macmall.com/macmall/famil...ac~promo~2.asp

Just read each little parahraph about them installing windows and it lists the XT in every one.

Flaki · Aug 9, 2007, 12:51 PM

it's 2600 pro, sorry to disappoint you

slughead · Aug 9, 2007, 12:53 PM

Definitely a typo. Apple included the (much slower) 2600 Pro.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...025618#4025618

I'mAMac · Aug 9, 2007, 12:54 PM

*sigh* why did i get my hopes up. Ok just makin sure, thanks. They could have gone with the XT though its really not much more expensive. I think around $115

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:08 PM

heh, just using my new 20" 2.4 now, and it says i have a: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT!

love this machine!

Eidorian · Aug 9, 2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adom

heh, just using my new 20" 2.4 now, and it says i have a: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT!

love this machine!

Proof in OS X or Windows or it didn't happen.

Apple couldn't have seriously made such an error.

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eidorian

Proof in OS X or Windows or it didn't happen.

Apple couldn't have seriously made such an error.

im in windows at the moment. how do i screen shot and ill show you llol

ViperDesign · Aug 9, 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eidorian

Proof in OS X or Windows or it didn't happen.

Apple couldn't have seriously made such an error.

Ok I am very confused right now.

In Windows vista which I just installed for dual boot, it is telling me I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB card, yet apples website says I should have the 2600 Pro..

I am confused...

Eidorian · Aug 9, 2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperDesign

Ok I am very confused right now.

In Windows vista which I just installed for dual boot, it is telling me I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB card, yet apples website says I should have the 2600 Pro..

I am confused...

http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php

Dump all the info on the GPU that you can get, please?

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperDesign

Ok I am very confused right now.

In Windows vista which I just installed for dual boot, it is telling me I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB card, yet apples website says I should have the 2600 Pro..

I am confused...

same here dude! how do i print screen to show them lol

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:19 PM

well that program tells me the same. i have the XT

Eidorian · Aug 9, 2007, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adom

well that program tells me the same. i have the XT

What about the clock speeds?

Durmortec · Aug 9, 2007, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adom

heh, just using my new 20" 2.4 now, and it says i have a: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT!

love this machine!

Could this be an error like the one with the MBP? I believe people reported 256 vram when they had the 2.2 SR model and it was some kind of mistake.

Oh and screenshot adom?

Eidorian · Aug 9, 2007, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durmortec

Could this be an error like the one with the MPB? I believe people reported 256 vram when they had the 2.2 SR model and it was some kind of mistake.

Oh and screenshot adom?

It's entirely possible that the driver is reporting the Pro as the XT.

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:26 PM

ok here you go guys

not sure whats going on, but both say its the XT.

hmmm interesting

oh p.s, this is what that wizard app gave:

Manufacturer : ATI Technologies Inc (Apple Computer Inc)
Model : ATI Technologies Inc
Bus Type : PCI-Express
Total Memory : 256 MB
Texture Memory : 500 MB
Processor : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9583)
Converter : Internal DAC(400MHz)
Refresh Rate (min/max) : 60/200 Hz

GPU Information :
Number of GPU : 1
Memory Type : SDRAM
GPU Frequency : SDRAM
Pixel Shader Version : 3.0

GPU Configuration :
Technology CrossFire : No

General Features :
Width : 432 mm
Height : 270 mm
Pixel per inch : 96x96 dpi
bits per pixel : 32
Colour Bits/Planes : 1
Brushes : 4294967295
Pens : 4294967295
Markers : 0
Device Fonts : 0
Device Colours : 4294967295
Clip Output to Rectangle : Yes
Hardware Acceleration : Yes

Blend and Shade Capabilities :
GradientFill Rectangle : No
GradientFill Traingle : No
Per Pixel AlphaBlend : Yes
Premultiplied Alpha : No

Raster Capabilities :
Banding : No
Transfer Bitmaps : Yes
Bitmap >64 KB : Yes
Fonts larger than 64 K : Yes
DIBs : Yes
DIBTODEV : Yes
Flood Fills : Yes
Scaling : No
StretchBlt : Yes
StretchDIB : Yes

Curves Capabilities :
Chord Arcs : Yes
Circles : Yes
Elipses : Yes
Interiors : Yes
Pie Wedges : Yes
Rounded Rectangles : Yes
Styled Borders : Yes
Wide Borders : Yes
Wide, Styled Borders : Yes

Lines Capabilities :
Interiors : Yes
Markers : Yes
Polylines : Yes
Polymarkers : Yes
Styled : Yes
Wide : Yes
Wide, Styled : Yes

Polygonal Capabilities :
Interiors : Yes
Alternate Fill Polygons : Yes
Winding Fill Polygons : Yes
Rectangles : Yes
Scan Lines : Yes
Styled Borders : Yes
Wide Borders : Yes
Wide, Styled Borders : Yes

Text Capabilities :
Stroke Precision : Yes
Stroke Clip Precision : Yes
90° Character Rotation : No
Any Angle Character Rotation : No
Independent X-Y Scaling : No
Double Weighted Characters : No
Italic : No
Underline : Yes
Strikeout : Yes
Raster Fonts : Yes
Vector Fonts : Yes

Color Management Capabilities :
CMYK : No
Gamma Ramp : Yes
ICM Device : No

addz · Aug 9, 2007, 06:27 PM

woh! its got to be driver issues, how about checking the system information on OSX? does it say 2600xt?

ViperDesign · Aug 9, 2007, 06:29 PM

i tried to upload the dump (which was a bunch of weird letters and what not) but it was to big, is that normal?

(by the way that whole sentence just sounds wrong!)

Durmortec · Aug 9, 2007, 06:30 PM

Interesting indeed. Either the biggest "oops" ever by apple or a driver error?

Either way I'd like to see some conclusive benchmarks on this machine before I pass final judgement on getting it, I'm kinda scared to trust the benchmarks out there right now, there's so many variables, drivers, OS, crap like that.

ViperDesign · Aug 9, 2007, 06:30 PM

by the way is that good that it is a 2600 xt instead of a pro? Not much of a ati man

Mollemand · Aug 9, 2007, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adom

ok here you go guys

not sure whats going on, but both say its the XT.

Now that would be hilarious! We've been jabbing and moaning for days

I truly hope it is so... good stuff!

My grossly under dimensioned sense of reason says that Apple would not make that sort of marketing mistake though...

Nick12945 · Aug 9, 2007, 06:35 PM

I really hope that Apple made the most unlikely mistake ever.

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:44 PM

ill download and run 3dMark if you want me to. i've totally forgotten what's good now in the PC world. this is the first time ive used windows in a while, so i can download and run that and see whats what lol

Durmortec · Aug 9, 2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adom

ill download and run 3dMark if you want me to. i've totally forgotten what's good now in the PC world. this is the first time ive used windows in a while, so i can download and run that and see whats what lol

That would help. To be honest I'm only really concerned about 2 out of the 11 or so games that I plan on playing, Oblivion and the soon to be released CoD4.

adom · Aug 9, 2007, 06:56 PM

acutally im pretty tired. its midnight practically here, and all the imac excitement has taken it out of me. try get someone in the US to do it, or i will some time tomorrow.

very strange tho, lets hope its not a bug and its the real deal eh?

I'mAMac · 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperDesign

by the way is that good that it is a 2600 xt instead of a pro? Not much of a ati man

Yes the XT would be better and at least make people happier seeing it as a substantial upgrade.

Also, adom, try going into OSX and checking apple system info. If that says XT as well...niice.

OR.. you can go to www.systemrequirementslab.com , its a website that tells if software mostly games will be compatible on your comp. Just click on Can you run it? and itll do its thing and then it gives you a report and it tells which gfx card you have. If it says XT then you have an XT.

Aug 9, 2007, 12:48 PM	#1
I'mAMac macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a Mac box	2600xt? On www.macmall.com it says that the 20" 2.4 comes with a 2600 XT and not a pro. Can anyone else confirm this or did they just make a mistake. That would be a nice upgrade if they did that. Here is the link http://www.macmall.com/macmall/famil...ac~promo~2.asp Just read each little parahraph about them installing windows and it lists the XT in every one. __________________ 2.0 GHz iMac Core Duo \| 2GB RAM \| X1600 256mb \| 250GB 16GB *iPod Touch*

Aug 9, 2007, 12:53 PM	#3
slughead macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phx az	Definitely a typo. Apple included the (much slower) 2600 Pro. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...025618#4025618 __________________ http://latewire.com

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Aug 9, 2007, 12:51 PM	#2
Flaki macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2007	it's 2600 pro, sorry to disappoint you

Aug 9, 2007, 12:54 PM	#4
I'mAMac Thread Starter macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a Mac box	sigh why did i get my hopes up. Ok just makin sure, thanks. They could have gone with the XT though its really not much more expensive. I think around $115 __________________ 2.0 GHz iMac Core Duo \| 2GB RAM \| X1600 256mb \| 250GB 16GB *iPod Touch*

Aug 9, 2007, 06:08 PM	#5
adom macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK	heh, just using my new 20" 2.4 now, and it says i have a: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT! love this machine!

Aug 9, 2007, 06:19 PM	#11
adom macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK	well that program tells me the same. i have the XT

Aug 9, 2007, 06:26 PM	#15
adom macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK	ok here you go guys not sure whats going on, but both say its the XT. hmmm interesting oh p.s, this is what that wizard app gave: Manufacturer : ATI Technologies Inc (Apple Computer Inc) Model : ATI Technologies Inc Bus Type : PCI-Express Total Memory : 256 MB Texture Memory : 500 MB Processor : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9583) Converter : Internal DAC(400MHz) Refresh Rate (min/max) : 60/200 Hz GPU Information : Number of GPU : 1 Memory Type : SDRAM GPU Frequency : SDRAM Pixel Shader Version : 3.0 GPU Configuration : Technology CrossFire : No General Features : Width : 432 mm Height : 270 mm Pixel per inch : 96x96 dpi bits per pixel : 32 Colour Bits/Planes : 1 Brushes : 4294967295 Pens : 4294967295 Markers : 0 Device Fonts : 0 Device Colours : 4294967295 Clip Output to Rectangle : Yes Hardware Acceleration : Yes Blend and Shade Capabilities : GradientFill Rectangle : No GradientFill Traingle : No Per Pixel AlphaBlend : Yes Premultiplied Alpha : No Raster Capabilities : Banding : No Transfer Bitmaps : Yes Bitmap >64 KB : Yes Fonts larger than 64 K : Yes DIBs : Yes DIBTODEV : Yes Flood Fills : Yes Scaling : No StretchBlt : Yes StretchDIB : Yes Curves Capabilities : Chord Arcs : Yes Circles : Yes Elipses : Yes Interiors : Yes Pie Wedges : Yes Rounded Rectangles : Yes Styled Borders : Yes Wide Borders : Yes Wide, Styled Borders : Yes Lines Capabilities : Interiors : Yes Markers : Yes Polylines : Yes Polymarkers : Yes Styled : Yes Wide : Yes Wide, Styled : Yes Polygonal Capabilities : Interiors : Yes Alternate Fill Polygons : Yes Winding Fill Polygons : Yes Rectangles : Yes Scan Lines : Yes Styled Borders : Yes Wide Borders : Yes Wide, Styled Borders : Yes Text Capabilities : Stroke Precision : Yes Stroke Clip Precision : Yes 90° Character Rotation : No Any Angle Character Rotation : No Independent X-Y Scaling : No Double Weighted Characters : No Italic : No Underline : Yes Strikeout : Yes Raster Fonts : Yes Vector Fonts : Yes Color Management Capabilities : CMYK : No Gamma Ramp : Yes ICM Device : No

Aug 9, 2007, 06:27 PM	#16
addz macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2007	woh! its got to be driver issues, how about checking the system information on OSX? does it say 2600xt?

Aug 9, 2007, 06:29 PM	#17
ViperDesign macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2007	i tried to upload the dump (which was a bunch of weird letters and what not) but it was to big, is that normal? (by the way that whole sentence just sounds wrong!)

Aug 9, 2007, 06:30 PM	#18
Durmortec macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cupertino, CA	Interesting indeed. Either the biggest "oops" ever by apple or a driver error? Either way I'd like to see some conclusive benchmarks on this machine before I pass final judgement on getting it, I'm kinda scared to trust the benchmarks out there right now, there's so many variables, drivers, OS, crap like that.

Aug 9, 2007, 06:35 PM	#21
Nick12945 macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan	I really hope that Apple made the most unlikely mistake ever.

Aug 9, 2007, 06:44 PM	#22
adom macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK	ill download and run 3dMark if you want me to. i've totally forgotten what's good now in the PC world. this is the first time ive used windows in a while, so i can download and run that and see whats what lol

Aug 9, 2007, 06:56 PM	#24
adom macrumors regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK	acutally im pretty tired. its midnight practically here, and all the imac excitement has taken it out of me. try get someone in the US to do it, or i will some time tomorrow. very strange tho, lets hope its not a bug and its the real deal eh?