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Old Aug 16, 2007, 12:47 PM   #1
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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S2144 )



Apple has seeded another version of Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S2144) to developers yesterday. The next update to Apple's Mac OS X Tiger operating system lists only one known issue which involves the system occasionally hanging during shutdown.

Beyond that, there have been a number of new fixes described, including addressing issues with USB modem, modem driver, CoreAudio and m4a files, WebCore Editing, VPN and Rosetta.

Apple last updated Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) on June 20th. Meanwhile, Apple continues to work on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) which is expected to be released in October of this year.

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Old Aug 16, 2007, 12:50 PM   #2
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This should probably be out before Leopard.

Hopefully Rosetta will see a few more speed improvements.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 12:57 PM   #3
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 01:03 PM   #4
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
Exactly! I'm officially so, so tired of not having this MBP work properly. I had been thinking maybe the wireless fix would be in 10.4.11 and that's why it was a bit delayed. It's really surprising wireless doesn't seem to be included.

I have a friend who's just switched from Windows to a MBP that arrives in a few days. If he has wireless drops out of the box for a problem that's been known for nearly three months, Apple's going to look pretty silly, and so am I for recommending the switch.
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
Funnily enough, I noticed this as well. I wasn't sure if it was just my Macbook, or my Wi-Fi network. But it does seem to only occur on battery, (and my signal strength is at 3 bars).

This seems a little soon after the .10 update to me, but if it contains substantial bug fixes, then hopefully it should be ok

At least with these updates you feel like your making progression. On Windows it just feels like plugging holes in a boat.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 01:08 PM   #6
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It'd be nice to see fixes for all of the laptop computer problems they introduced with 10.4.10. Hopefully, they find the answers. I'd hate for 10.4.13 to be the final Tiger release.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 01:19 PM   #7
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
This issue, i have not.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 01:20 PM   #8
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
Nice to see they are still working on a product even when the next version is soon to be released.
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Nice to see they are still working on a product even when the next version is soon to be released.
They'll be supporting Tiger even after Leopard is released, why would you be surprised to see them supporting Tiger before Leopard is released.

This OS goes to 11
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Beyond that, there have been a number of new fixes described, including addressing issues with USB modem, modem driver, CoreAudio and m4a files, WebCore Editing, VPN and Rosetta.
VPN fixes would be great. Considering that I cannot connect to my work VPN with OS X VPN, but can with DigiTunnel is a little annoying.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 02:06 PM   #13
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
Same thing happening on my 17"MBP. Terrible reception after installing 10.4.10. 2-3 bars when it used to be full reception.
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i hope it fixes my screwy audio problem on my mac pro

it pop/buzzes infrequently and it's annoying
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They'll be supporting Tiger even after Leopard is released, why would you be surprised to see them supporting Tiger before Leopard is released.
Well historically once the next major revision of Mac OS X is released the prior version will only get security updates (no minor revisions, unless a big enough issue requires it).
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 02:32 PM   #16
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With this title of the news I wanted to click 'check for updates'.

Maybe add 'to dev.' next time?
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For an OS that has had 10 major updates; still having issues with modems and hanging on shutdown is pretty damn sloppy for a company that is supost to be "quality" driven.
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 02:55 PM   #18
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Old Aug 16, 2007, 03:05 PM   #19
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Might this be for newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww hardware? MacPro's perhaps? New video card drivers for iMacAL?
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They'll be supporting Tiger even after Leopard is released, why would you be surprised to see them supporting Tiger before Leopard is released.

This OS goes to 11
Definitely.

I was still running OS 10.2.8 on my iMac G3 until a few months ago. And, I was still getting updates through Software Update for it (Mostly security patches, and minor fixes).

That system is now running 10.3.9 and still getting updates there as well.

Yes, I do have some 10.4.x systems in the house as well, but I keep the old iMac around for my kid to beat on
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I just hope Apple puts in real drivers from the new iMac.

It's pretty disgraceful that the new iMacs have such terrible GPU's, but the fact that the drivers stink and make the GPU even slower, is maddening.

More bug fixes is always good.
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Might this be for newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww hardware? MacPro's perhaps? New video card drivers for iMacAL?
No, not very likely. There are individual updates per computer-type if it's an update that requires firmware changes.

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Likely this be out Friday or Monday.

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For an OS that has had 10 major updates; still having issues with modems and hanging on shutdown is pretty damn sloppy for a company that is supost to be "quality" driven.
Most of the issues you allude to are in the Intel side, which has been around for about 18 months or so and were just revised not that long ago to use pre-N 802.11. Part of the growing pain. I have PPC and see few if any issues.

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I just hope Apple puts in real drivers from the new iMac.

It's pretty disgraceful that the new iMacs have such terrible GPU's, but the fact that the drivers stink and make the GPU even slower, is maddening.

More bug fixes is always good.
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With this title of the news I wanted to click 'check for updates'.
heh heh me too

this thread says lots of negative stuff about mbp bugs. makes me nervous about buying a new one when leopard comes out. i guess leopard will have even more bugs to be fixed, as tiger has been around a while now. hmmm
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It'd also be nice if this addressed the 10.4.10-induced problem of frequent network-dropping behavior by my MacBook Pro (2.16 Ghz C2D, 15") while using AirPort and battery power.
Wow, I have this problem too, though I experience it both on battery and while connected to a power supply. I wasn't sure if it was my computer or my router, as I upgraded my router's firmware (Linksys WRT300N) at about the same time that I upgraded to 10.4.10
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