Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Build 9A500n

MacRumors · Aug 20, 2007, 08:39 PM

Apple has seeded a new version of Mac OS X Leopard (9A500n) to developers today.

The latest update arrived through Mac OS X's built in Software Update and reportedly improves stability and provides general fixes. It is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Leopard 9A499. Previous seeds have introduced visual tweaks. There have been no reports yet about any visual enhancements in the latest build.

Apple recently requested feedback on the previous build (9A499) to all developers. The final consumer release of Mac OS X Leopard is due in October.

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Ryan5505 · Aug 20, 2007, 08:43 PM

I can not wait until October

knelto · Aug 20, 2007, 08:46 PM

Went over to the InsanelyMac forums and a user there posted that it's much more stable and "WAAAY faster". Woohoo!

Peace · Aug 20, 2007, 08:46 PM

I'm getting this gut feeling you're not going to have to wait till October.

twoodcc · Aug 20, 2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan5505

I can not wait until October

me two!

let's hope this is a sign of it being right on schedule

zioxide · Aug 20, 2007, 08:50 PM

wonder if they fixed that awful menubar

aspro · Aug 20, 2007, 08:53 PM

Man, I wish it could come out sooner and I hope the menubar transparency is controlled by a toggle somewhere in the preferences. Though, maybe it'll grow on me.

gsnixon · Aug 20, 2007, 08:54 PM

do we have any more details about this? Is there a changelog?

BWhaler · Aug 20, 2007, 08:55 PM

I don't mean to be negative, but I suspect 10.5 is not the upgrade Steve was hoping for.

I think the fall of Vista combined with the resource constraints of iPhone, et al., has pushed Apple to do a less ambitious upgrade.

I worry that they are looking for developer feedback at this stage. (not just bug reporting) I worry that the state of development is still far off. Bugs are everywhere.

And this is supposed to be released in late October?

Beyond 10.5, I would love to see some more innovation from Apple. e.g. Where is the ability to use your Mac as a virtual headset for your iPhone. This one little feature could be killer...

Fearless Leader · Aug 20, 2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

I'm getting this gut feeling you're not going to have to wait till October.

I'm getting the same gut feeling.

Hattig · 09:10 PM

Glad to see that things are getting fixed, hope the launch in October goes well. Should be getting a new Mac early next year methinks, after a couple of point releases.

kbmb · Aug 20, 2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

I'm getting this gut feeling you're not going to have to wait till October.

I have a feeling that everyone will have to wait until October still. Maybe not till the end....but at this point I don't think Steve wants this release to have ANY major problems. After the delay, I think everyone at Apple would rather have a very stable, fast OS....than a buggy release filled with Vista-like problems.

I think the other poster nailed it.....I think Apple probably has tailored back on the overall feature set to make sure they get a fast and stable release out.

Granted....Leopard it chalk full of new goodies.

Just my thoughts. Trust me....I can't wait, and would love to be wrong!

-Kevin

Wayfarer · Aug 20, 2007, 09:11 PM

One build closer to the final release.

But Apple, take as much time as you need to make Leopard fully featured and stable.

FJ218700 · Aug 20, 2007, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

One build closer to the final release.

But Apple, take as much time as you need to make Leopard fully featured and stable.

true, but if Leopard is delayed again, there better be some new hardware instead (with a leopard voucher)

Broken Friday · Aug 20, 2007, 09:24 PM

I find it extremely how members here from what I've only seen bash Vista and call it a failure. I have both a PC and a Mac, both Vista and Tiger, but some of yo talk like cults.

I hope Leopard comes out in October, and I extremely hope that ugly menu bar gets fixed, that transparency looks AWFUL!!!!

But that's the way you compete with your competitor though, right?... you copy off them.

I don't want to hear all that Microsoft copied first crap, copying Microsoft back is twice as worse.

seclusion · Aug 20, 2007, 09:26 PM

Even if they have to wait to release a couple of those "secret" options that no one knows about 6 months from now. I'd be content with what we've seen so far stable! The rest can be added in later. Starting to sound good

simon-says · Aug 20, 2007, 09:28 PM

Anyone know if this shows up in the 9a466 build, or will 9a499 be required? I just reinstalled from WWDC disc and was curious if another install will be needed.

ZachPruckowski · Aug 20, 2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

I'm getting this gut feeling you're not going to have to wait till October.

I disagree. It will take 4-6 weeks from going gold to shipping, because of distribution issues (pressing a few million DVDs, packaging, shipping to stores pre-launch, etc.) That means that Leopard would be going gold in mid- to late- September for a late October launch.

Assuming that the "n" designation and the fact that it's only 1 build number higher means that it's the first RC, we'll get another build by next Friday, and the Gold version download to ADC by Sept. 14th. My money is on a launch on October 16th or 23rd.

Peace · Aug 20, 2007, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon-says

Anyone know if this shows up in the 9a466 build, or will 9a499 be required? I just reinstalled from WWDC disc and was curious if another install will be needed.

If you were a developer you could download 9a499.

hanschien · Aug 20, 2007, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan5505

I can not wait until October

"...wake me up when september ends"

cohibadad · Aug 20, 2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon-says

Anyone know if this shows up in the 9a466 build, or will 9a499 be required? I just reinstalled from WWDC disc and was curious if another install will be needed.

requires 9a499

swingerofbirch · Aug 20, 2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclusion

Even if they have to wait to release a couple of those "secret" options that no one knows about 6 months from now. I'd be content with what we've seen so far stable! The rest can be added in later. Starting to sound good

I assumed the secret features were the ones unveiled at WWDC. Do people think Apple is keeping secrets even from the developers until the day of release?

floam · 09:33 PM

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Fukui · Aug 20, 2007, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan5505

I can not wait until October

31st...

and... btw, are any of the ppl posting here so far, even used the leopard betas? It aint IMHO coming out till the very last second they can spare. Even if the API's are frozen, and mostly bug fixed, the OS as a whole has to be stress tested, otherwise expect 10.5.1 to come out the day of launch....

knelto · Aug 20, 2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanschien

"...wake me up when september ends"

As much as I dislike Green Day, that's quite a funny correlation...

Aug 20, 2007, 08:39 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Build 9A500n Apple has seeded a new version of Mac OS X Leopard (9A500n) to developers today. The latest update arrived through Mac OS X's built in Software Update and reportedly improves stability and provides general fixes. It is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Leopard 9A499. Previous seeds have introduced visual tweaks. There have been no reports yet about any visual enhancements in the latest build. Apple recently requested feedback on the previous build (9A499) to all developers. The final consumer release of Mac OS X Leopard is due in October. Article Link

Aug 20, 2007, 08:43 PM	#2
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Peace macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: On top of the Storm Peaks waiting for the Time-Lost Proto Drake	I'm getting this gut feeling you're not going to have to wait till October.

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zioxide macrumors 68040 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts	wonder if they fixed that awful menubar

Aug 20, 2007, 08:55 PM	#9
BWhaler macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2003	I don't mean to be negative, but I suspect 10.5 is not the upgrade Steve was hoping for. I think the fall of Vista combined with the resource constraints of iPhone, et al., has pushed Apple to do a less ambitious upgrade. I worry that they are looking for developer feedback at this stage. (not just bug reporting) I worry that the state of development is still far off. Bugs are everywhere. And this is supposed to be released in late October? Beyond 10.5, I would love to see some more innovation from Apple. e.g. Where is the ability to use your Mac as a virtual headset for your iPhone. This one little feature could be killer... __________________ "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." -- Hunter Thompson

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Hattig macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2003	Glad to see that things are getting fixed, hope the launch in October goes well. Should be getting a new Mac early next year methinks, after a couple of point releases. __________________ iBook — 12" 1.33GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 40GB, Combodrive, 200GB Firewire Hard Drive :: iPod — 8GB Black G3 iPod nano Last edited by bousozoku : Aug 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM. Reason: removed reference to deleted post

Aug 20, 2007, 09:11 PM	#13
Wayfarer macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007	One build closer to the final release. But Apple, take as much time as you need to make Leopard fully featured and stable.

Aug 20, 2007, 09:24 PM	#15
Broken Friday macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2007	I find it extremely how members here from what I've only seen bash Vista and call it a failure. I have both a PC and a Mac, both Vista and Tiger, but some of yo talk like cults. I hope Leopard comes out in October, and I extremely hope that ugly menu bar gets fixed, that transparency looks AWFUL!!!! But that's the way you compete with your competitor though, right?... you copy off them. I don't want to hear all that Microsoft copied first crap, copying Microsoft back is twice as worse. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/fridayproducer I'm a producer, 4 1/2 month old. Got two new tracks coming soon, check out my old ones.

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seclusion macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2007	Even if they have to wait to release a couple of those "secret" options that no one knows about 6 months from now. I'd be content with what we've seen so far stable! The rest can be added in later. Starting to sound good

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