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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:45 AM   #1
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iPhone Application Installer



Installer.app promises to provide an easy interface to install iPhone applications over EDGE or Wifi.

The iPhone installable application does require you to go through installation process at least once to get their installer on your phone. Fortunately, they are offering what they describe as a "single command" installer to jump start the process:
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New! We now have a single command Mac (PPC & Intel) installer for Installer.app, get it here. This will automate the entire jailbreak and Installer.app installation process for your 1.0 or 1.0.1 iPhone, including automatically downloading the right firmware files. Be sure to read the short README file for installation instructions.

If possible, it is recommended you do a full restore of your iPhone using iTunes before installing this, but this is not required -- it will simply make for a cleaner install.
It's in Beta and comes with no warranty, so proceed with caution.

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Old Aug 21, 2007, 01:19 AM   #2
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Amazing how far efforts have come! Absolutely shameful that this wasn't something Apple included.

What's "Zune2" in that screen shot?
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 04:41 AM   #3
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Counting down to the exploit... 3...
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 05:05 AM   #4
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What does this mean?

I want to see Skype work on iPhone (no more bills!). Would this installer thingamajigger install Skype? Or no?
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 06:09 AM   #5
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No.

It makes it easier to install iPhone applications, not make all applications installable.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 07:04 AM   #6
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All well and good but where are all the apps? what is zune2 too? Is there a one stop shop where we can see all the apps currently available.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 09:51 AM   #7
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Amazing how far efforts have come! Absolutely shameful that this wasn't something Apple included.
I don't think it's shameful at all. Remember, this is a Version One-Oh product here, and it's unreasonable to expect a fully polished development environment on day 1. Apple obviously hears the noise we're making and even before the iPhone was released, they showed us it was at least feasible to make additional apps, but there's absolutely no point in bragging that iPhone runs OSX if developers can't make use of it, and in January, the Steve made quite a fuss about that.

Just as Dashcode wasn't available the day widgets showed up, or Xcode wasn't really around until OSX got rolling, a "Phonecode" or whatever is surely in the works, with all the good stuff like an interface library. It'll be draggy-droppy and allow you to code in ObjC or Java or even HTML. It'll have hooks into the rest of the phone so you can talk to the address book, the mapping software, the internet, the battery, the wireless radio, the EDGE network, the camera, the orientation sensor, the multitouch screen, the music libary, the album artwork, the speaker, the photo library, the voicemail, the Settings control panel, and all the other stuff squarely outside of the relm of a damned web2.0 "application", which as we've seen so far, is mostly tracking applications for web2.0 apps.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 10:27 AM   #8
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I don't think it's shameful at all. Remember, this is a Version One-Oh product here, and it's unreasonable to expect a fully polished development environment on day 1.
I agree it'll come in due time. Most developers seem to accept that for granted, and would've happily taken a "The DevKit is coming soon" explanation when the iPhone was released. I think where most of them became disgruntled is when Steve offered the cop-out "Oh look, you can create web apps!" response. (Never mind how very good we've gotten at making web apps tailored to the iPhone.)

For those looking for a more detailed explanation, this Installer.app basically seems to simplify this whole process here, where users would've had to utilize a lot of manual code prompts, some SSH action, and other technical mumbo-jumbo.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 10:53 AM   #9
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Now all I need is for someone to tell me the most simple way to install roms into the other wise useless nes.app.....
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:22 PM   #10
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Now all I need is for someone to tell me the most simple way to install roms into the other wise useless nes.app.....
I know, this is the one thing i can't figure out.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:34 PM   #11
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Counting down to the exploit... 3...
What exploit? It has already been cracked. Have you not seen the NES emulator?

Anyways, this is good but what we really need is a good GUI program like iFuntastic so you could just drag and drop applications. Maybe a virtual iPhone and you drag the apps on there (therefore seeing what it would look like)? I want iChat!
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 01:19 PM   #12
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This script worked like a charm with a ppc mac and iPhone firmware ver. 1.1. This little script and app will make a lot of people happy!
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 01:21 PM   #13
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Now all I need is for someone to tell me the most simple way to install roms into the other wise useless nes.app.....
Posted by The General in another thread (read the stuff in the Applications forums on here)

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If you have Installer.app installed, run it and install "Community Resources"

Then once you have that installed, more programs will show up that you can install. Scroll down to OpenSSH and install that. Then install BSD Subsystem.

Restart your phone and connect it to a WiFi router. Go to Settings -> Wifi -> And hit the little blue "(>)" next to the network you're connected to. Write down your IP address listed there.

Download Cyberduck if you're on a Mac, or Filezilla if you're on Windows.

In Cyberduck, hit "Open Connection" and select the "SFTP" protocol. Type your IP address into the address bar, then for the user name and password it's most likely root and dottie, respectively. Port should say 22. Hit connect.

If all goes well, you should be browsing your iPhone's files in no time. Just go to /var/root/Media and create a directory called ROMs, and one inside that called NES. Put your ROMs in that NES folder.

For instance...

/var/root/Media/ROMs/NES/Super\ Mario\ 3.nes
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 01:23 PM   #14
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Anyways, this is good but what we really need is a good GUI program like iFuntastic so you could just drag and drop applications.
I think this is what SFTP is for. Which you can get through the Installer.app.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 02:05 PM   #15
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Can't get it to work

Been trying everything under the sun to get this to work.

I tried this iPhoneinstaller and It seemed to work at first it downloaded the update but then it said it couldn't find the bootstrapper program

/Users/*My Computer's name removed*/Desktop/iPhoneInstaller/get_installer.sh: line 40: ./bootstrapper: No such file or directory

So I dropped Bootstraper into the terminal and it would try to update the files but it would stop. and now it will only hang with

(privateFunctions) Architecture: powerpc
0 Looking for iPhone...
1 Sending Files...
Failed: (0) afcWriteFile: Cant read file

Anyone know what's up?
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 02:24 PM   #16
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Posted by The General in another thread (read the stuff in the Applications forums on here)

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If you have Installer.app installed, run it and install "Community Resources"

Then once you have that installed, more programs will show up that you can install. Scroll down to OpenSSH and install that. Then install BSD Subsystem.

Restart your phone and connect it to a WiFi router. Go to Settings -> Wifi -> And hit the little blue "(>)" next to the network you're connected to. Write down your IP address listed there.

Download Cyberduck if you're on a Mac, or Filezilla if you're on Windows.

In Cyberduck, hit "Open Connection" and select the "SFTP" protocol. Type your IP address into the address bar, then for the user name and password it's most likely root and dottie, respectively. Port should say 22. Hit connect.

If all goes well, you should be browsing your iPhone's files in no time. Just go to /var/root/Media and create a directory called ROMs, and one inside that called NES. Put your ROMs in that NES folder.

For instance...

/var/root/Media/ROMs/NES/Super\ Mario\ 3.nes
thanks, I missed that in the other thread...gonna try this later, lets hope all goes well
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 02:35 PM   #17
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i suggest doing a restore on your iPhone, deleting the installer, download again, try again.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 04:06 PM   #18
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Thumbs up Great app.

This installer program is very exciting. It's basically a package management util for iPhone. Making new programs and getting them out to people will be a snap now.

Highly recommended. Hack on!
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What exploit? It has already been cracked. Have you not seen the NES emulator?
No, no, no... I mean the exploit that starts pulling malware over the Edge connection and sticking it in your phone. That's one installation vector I don't want open-- particularly by a third party...
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No, no, no... I mean the exploit that starts pulling malware over the Edge connection and sticking it in your phone. That's one installation vector I don't want open-- particularly by a third party...
You realize that the people who develop these programs for the iPhone are also iPhone users, right? The code is open source. The repositories are on an "at will" basis. You choose to add sources to your list. Unless you add a repository manually, that isn't checked and maintained by the makers of Installer.app, which right now isn't possible, you aren't going to be getting any "malware."

It's irrational paranoia.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 11:04 PM   #21
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His paranoia stem from owning too many MS Windows computers
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actually the installer is closed source which may warrant some paranoia.
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See this thread I made with the help of The General for a complete tutorial on installing apps using this installer

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=344240
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:42 AM   #24
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It figures this would happen, but now after I did all this Apple released 1.0.2

So my question is does any one know how 1.0.2 reacts to an iPhone with the installer app? I am guessing I will need to restore then start over once 1.0.2 is installed since I installed a bunch of stuff out of the installer app.
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It figures this would happen, but now after I did all this Apple released 1.0.2

So my question is does any one know how 1.0.2 reacts to an iPhone with the installer app? I am guessing I will need to restore then start over once 1.0.2 is installed since I installed a bunch of stuff out of the installer app.
That is correct. The installer app works fine with 1.0.2. and it will prompt you with option to that version.

But you will have to restore and start over.
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