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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:07 AM   #1
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iPhone (Germany) to be Announced Next Week?



Reuters reports that Deutsche Telekom (T-Mobile) has "clinched" the exclusive deal with Apple to sell the iPhone in Germany.

According to Reuters source, the deal will be announced next week. This would coincide with Apple's "Mum is no longer the word" Media event to be held in London on September 18th.

The initial price of the German iPhone is expected to be 399 euros ($554). T-Mobile as reportedly agreed to the both voice and data revenue sharing with Apple.

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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:09 AM   #2
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Yay for Germany.

Canada......next? never? help???
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:12 AM   #3
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Any word yet on it being sold unlocked? Isn't that mandatory in certain European countries?
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:15 AM   #4
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could apples hook-up with t-mobile help US t-mobile costumers get visual viocemail that are using unlocked iphones?
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:17 AM   #5
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could apples hook-up with t-mobile help US t-mobile costumers get visual viocemail that are using unlocked iphones?

I can't imagine....no way...
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:33 AM   #6
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:34 AM   #7
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Yay for Germany.

Canada......next? never? help???
Well, it will take longer for Canada because it's not a major market. Germany is the 2nd or 3rd largest consumer market behind the US. Japan is also up there. If Apple is going by a "large markets first" policy, then I'd say you're going to be waiting a bit longer.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:37 AM   #8
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400 Euros for a non-3G phone? Do they actually plan on selling any?

The phone has to be a 3G phone. No way around it. Thinksecret is wrong on this.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:39 AM   #9
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399€ sounds a bit dodgy.. That's quite a lot of a price difference from the US version. If the EU version doesn't have any different hardware, then why spend some 150USD more on it?
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399€ sounds a bit dodgy.. That's quite a lot of a price difference from the US version. If the EU version doesn't have any different hardware, then why spend some 150USD more on it?
Apple's costs of currency exchange and higher costs in Europe (taxes for example) mean that there is going to be a higher price when compared to USD.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:48 AM   #11
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No 3G in iPhone would subject Apple to mockery from Europeans. anything other than 3G in Europe is worthless.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:03 PM   #12
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Yeah I was just over in Finland this summer talking to some Nokia guys, actually, and then to a lot of other Finns at other times about the iPhone and they all couldn't get around the fact it doesn't have 3G. Basically, a phone that expensive without 3G to them was laughable.
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Yeah I was just over in Finland this summer talking to some Nokia guys, actually, and then to a lot of other Finns at other times about the iPhone and they all couldn't get around the fact it doesn't have 3G. Basically, a phone that expensive without 3G to them was laughable.
And every interface Nokia has made was laughable compared to the iPhone.

Maybe they should stop chatting and start producing phones without horrible interfaces.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:11 PM   #14
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400 Euros for a non-3G phone? Do they actually plan on selling any?

The phone has to be a 3G phone. No way around it. Thinksecret is wrong on this.
The iPod Touch isn't 3G and I'm sure they're selling plenty of those...
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:14 PM   #15
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If it's a 16GB iPhone then that's a bloody great price.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:16 PM   #16
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3G is overrated here in the states. AT&T's 3G coverage is not anything to write home about.

Here in New York state, there are only 2 places that have 3G coverage, NYC and the Hamptons. The rest of the state is on EDGE. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany are all EDGE.

So if the 3G coverage is not there in most states, why should Apple put it into the iPhone?

I'm pretty happy with my 190kbps on EDGE as is because if I need faster speeds I just find myself a WiFi locale in a pinch.
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399 sounds like a joke. 349 will be reasonable though.
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Any word yet on it being sold unlocked? Isn't that mandatory in certain European countries?
It is with a contract as far as I know. Prepaid can be sold locked. Either way this will be interesting.
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The iPod Touch isn't 3G and I'm sure they're selling plenty of those...
Err... it's not a phone...

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3G is overrated here in the states. AT&T's 3G coverage is not anything to write home about.

Here in New York state, there are only 2 places that have 3G coverage, NYC and the Hamptons. The rest of the state is on EDGE. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany are all EDGE.

So if the 3G coverage is not there in most states, why should Apple put it into the iPhone?

I'm pretty happy with my 190kbps on EDGE as is because if I need faster speeds I just find myself a WiFi locale in a pinch.
Everyone knows that the US 'cell phone' market stinks.

Japan and Europe are leagues ahead. 3G is almost total in Japan and over in the UK we have 3G in every city and good coverage elsewhere (someone will argue I am sure).

To sell well (for a 2 year contract) it needs 3G. Otherwise it is not 'future proof' enough and people won't want to be locked down for 2 years with no chance to get a different phone.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:27 PM   #21
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:28 PM   #22
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Apple should release a 3G version of the iPhone for the German market. Then I could import one and use it in Canada on Rogers network.
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Germany... UK... France... What about Spain ?
Who said France? France and Spain will be tertiary concerns for Apple. The larger more affluent markets will be the first ones to see the iPhone. I think after Germany and the UK, the next best market for the iPhone is Japan.
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Japan and Europe are leagues ahead. 3G is almost total in Japan and over in the UK we have 3G in every city and good coverage elsewhere (someone will argue I am sure).
Not wanting to argue exactly but I live in Edinburgh and I've only ever seen the 3G symbol on my phone a few times (I was actually confused at to what it was). Mainly noticed it in European airports.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 12:37 PM   #25
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399 sounds like a joke. 349 will be reasonable though.
Jeepers, a little hasty aren't we? Shouldn't we find out what the specs are first?

£399 euros is what a 16GB iPod touch goes for... Mind you, that suggests it isn't what a 16GB iPhone would go for - but then again you've got a LOT of bills to pile up on top of that, 10% of which Apple are getting.

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