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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:14 AM   #1
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January 2008 MacBook Pros with Penryn Processors?



Appleinsider compiles information from Digitimes about upcoming Penryn processors which are expected to be used in upcoming MacBook Pros. Intel detailed their Penryn and Nehalem processor plans earlier this week at the Intel Developer Forum.

Intel is expected to launch five 45nm dual-core notebook CPUs in January of 2008 with CPU speeds ranging from 2.1GHz up to 2.8GHz.

The new Intel mobile CPUs are expected to refresh the current Santa Rosa chipset which powers the current MacBook Pro. The MacBook Pro currently maxes out at 2.4GHz speeds.

Meanwhile, it has been previously revealed that new MacBook Pros are expected to be released in January 2008 which would coincide with these processor updates.


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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:18 AM   #2
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What type of performance boost is Penryn supposed to give compared to Santa Rosa?
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:22 AM   #3
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What type of performance boost is Penryn supposed to give compared to Santa Rosa?
"We expect our Penryn processors to provide up to a 20 percent performance increase while improving energy efficiency," said Otellini. "Intel's breakthrough 45nm silicon process technology allows us to provide low-cost, extremely low-power processors for innovative small form factor devices while delivering high-performance, multi-core, multi-featured processors used in the most advanced systems."
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:25 AM   #4
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Is there some curse on 3Ghz or something? Wasn't the P4 at 4Ghz 4 years ago. CPUs seem to have smaller and smaller adavances. Take away tacking on more cores, and they have only gained about 20% a year the past few years. Sounds like this will be maybe 50% faster than the first MacBook Pro 2 years ago at best.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:28 AM   #5
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Looks like I will be making a FS thread within the next few months for this old MBP CD I have.

Hopefully, this will help Apple make a 12" MBP. I'm still hoping they make one soon. I really would like it, but this 15" will do just fine if it never comes out.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:29 AM   #6
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This sounds about right given the roadmap for mobile processors.

Quad Core Laptop

Mobile Quad Core

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070919PD211.htm

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09...ile_platform/1
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:29 AM   #7
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Hmm.... not bad...

All of these processor updates are splendid, but I'd like to see some stunning innovation. Time will tell, I guess.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:30 AM   #8
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So we have Santa Rosa Penryns followed 2 months later by Montevina Penryns?
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:30 AM   #9
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Is there some curse on 3Ghz or something? Wasn't the P4 at 4Ghz 4 years ago. CPUs seem to have smaller and smaller adavances. Take away tacking on more cores, and they have only gained about 20% a year the past few years. Sounds like this will be maybe 50% faster than the first MacBook Pro 2 years ago at best.
I completely agree. Another thing, what else will it upgrade besides the faster processor? Anything drastic or just minor changes?
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:31 AM   #10
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800mhz bus.

I'll pass.

Unless they make a subnotebook which would be a nice compliment for my Mac Pro.

Once the Mac Book Pros get a 1200hmz bus then I'll consider them a desktop replacement for me personally.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:33 AM   #11
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It doesn't seem that long ago that the MBP was updated. The last few months have flown by I guess. I hope they make as big of a cosmetic change to the MBP as they did to the iMac. Magnetic latches is almost certain. LED 17" is likely too. A new keyboard is probable as well, maybe more like the MacBooks, but with aluminum.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:34 AM   #12
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I sometimes wish Apple had a longer turnaround time between product releases as iv just taken delivery of a MBP and they are going to renew it already!

Oh well thats proberly why they are so far ahead of everyone else.


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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:36 AM   #13
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I just want to know how Pro the graphics are going to be. Are they going to be powerful enough to do CAD on. That'll determine whether or not I can buy. Right now no Apple laptop offers true "pro" level graphics -- basically Quadro Mobile. Any Quadro would be good, even the cheapest one would be a million times better than the gamer cards.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:36 AM   #14
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I completely agree. Another thing, what else will it upgrade besides the faster processor? Anything drastic or just minor changes?
That's the question. I bet that the trackpad will be updated to include some kind of advanced "touch" capability/gestures (beyond the current two fingered scrolling, tap clicking etc.) like the iPhone and iPod Touch.
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Is there some curse on 3Ghz or something? Wasn't the P4 at 4Ghz 4 years ago. CPUs seem to have smaller and smaller adavances. Take away tacking on more cores, and they have only gained about 20% a year the past few years. Sounds like this will be maybe 50% faster than the first MacBook Pro 2 years ago at best.
I think the main obstacle is heat. If you think about it, the current ~2GHZ chips already spew out a lot of heat; can you imagine a ~3GHZ? It also probably help energy consumption. That's my guess anyways.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:41 AM   #16
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what is this going to do for the design of the MBP?
will they be thinner/ complete redesign?
or will the insides just change?



i hate that i just got my macbookpro a month ago
WHY APPLE WHY!





also i see that many of you mac book pros go-er's have 2.0 GHz. i got the 2.4
i know 2.4 being faster, but why so many 2.0's. price?
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:43 AM   #17
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I predict a bad end for this thread given recent MacBook Pro purchasers, those not informed of Intel's roadmap, and those who don't know IDF is this week.
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I predict a bad end for this thread given recent MacBook Pro purchasers, those not informed of Intel's roadmap, and those who don't know IDF is this week.
IDF ends tomorrow, no? What about the Taiwan session in October. Anything to come from that?
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What type of performance boost is Penryn supposed to give compared to Santa Rosa?
Penryn is a CPU, Santa Rosa is a chipset. What you should be asking is: "What performance boost is Penryn supposed to give compared to the Core 2 Duos used in the Santa Rosa chipset"
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IDF ends tomorrow, no? What about the Taiwan session in October. Anything to come from that?
I expect much more refined samples of future products.
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This wave of update is really not substantiative.

The next big one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Q...h_Interconnect in less than one year from now.
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This wave of update is really not substantiative.
And how do you know that?
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This wave of update is really not substantiative.

The next big one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Q...h_Interconnect in less than one year from now.
That's for Xeon and Itanium, not mobile processors...

People complaining about a recent purchase: If you want to know when Apple will update their pro lines, look at the Intel roadmap. It's not rocket science.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 01:00 AM   #24
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I love the design of Apple products...but lately I haven't liked the updates. I don't like the new iMacs, or the new iPod Nanos or Classics. I'm fully in love with the MBP design. If they drastically change it...I don't see me liking it too much. Besides, as far as the insides...its like any other computer now, it will be updated continuously.
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the insides sure ...updated constantly



as for exterior design. when will we see the next drastic change?
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