Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) 9A559

[MacRumors]

After seeding Leopard 9A528d just yesterday, Apple has released 9A559 to ADC members tonight. Yesterday's update appears to have been primarily testing Leopard's Software Update mechanism.

The 6.55GB download lists only two known issues for Leopard. The two issues described involve upgrading from Tiger to Leopard on PowerPC systems in certain scenarios, and HP printer drivers.

As mentioned yesterday, Apple will need to finalize Leopard soon in order to meet their October shipping deadline. Apple had originally slated Leopard for earlier this year, but announced in April that it would be delayed until October.

Apple has detailed many of the features of Leopard on their website.


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[psychofreak]

I can't wait...I haven't even used a beta, I'm just getting desperate...

[the vj]

Originally Posted by psychofreak

I can't wait...I haven't even used a beta, I'm just getting desperate...

And you are teh one who si gonna do the actual beta testing.


As I am an experienced/smart buyer, I will wait a few months until the revision comes out. I am not going to install the new OS to face a bunch of bugs and get frustrate as every one else do when they go all "desperate" to get the first realease of anything.

I will wait a bit still.

I see everybody who is running Vista (sorry, I'm just making a point) desperate. I had a friend the other day frustrate it because he just couldn't install some elements for his 3D software, MS was asking him for a bunch of things.

Of course Apple is way beyond that but again... I will wait.

[/dev/toaster]

Originally Posted by the vj

And you are teh one who si gonna do the actual beta testing.


As I am an experienced/smart buyer, I will wait a few months until the revision comes out. I am not going to install the new OS to face a bunch of bugs and get frustrate as every one else do when they go all "desperate" to get the first realease of anything.

I will wait a bit still.

I see everybody who is running Vista (sorry, I'm just making a point) desperate. I had a friend the other day frustrate it because he just couldn't install some elements for his 3D software, MS was asking him for a bunch of things.

Of course Apple is way beyond that but again... I will wait.

I can totally understand. For me however, I can't wait to be using it for real. Timemachine is such a godsend. Last week I had major data corruption due to a bug in some backup software (go figure). After that, I realized how much timemachine is going to rock. As of current, I don't have proper backups of mine or my girlfriends Mac. I am setting up my local server to handle the timemachine repo.

I just love that timemachine works over a network.

This won't be even remotely close to the disaster that is Vista. If for some odd bizzare reason it is, I will quickly roll back to tiger. I am doing a clean install anyway. (Have to, since I am running Leopard right now LOL)

[chr1s60]

Am I the only one starting to think that Leopard is going to be pushed back again??? I know Apple still has a little bit of time, but I am starting to think it might not be released til November or even early next year.

[shawnce]

Originally Posted by chr1s60

Am I the only one starting to think that Leopard is going to be pushed back again??? I know Apple still has a little bit of time, but I am starting to think it might not be released til November or even early next year.

Why do you think that? It is common for Apple to release a developer build about a month before the boxed product is released ... with that "last" developer build basically matching what goes in the box. Also sometimes we will get a little burst of builds near they end as the close out show stoppers that are found.

[chr1s60]

Originally Posted by shawnce

Why do you think that? It is common for Apple to release a developer build about a month before the boxed product is released ... with that "last" developer build basically matching what goes in the box. Also sometimes we will get a little burst of builds near they end as the close out show stoppers that are found.

I only say that for two reasons. First off, there has yet to be an official release date other than October and there is only a week left in September and there is no word. The other reason is because I have seen developers with Leopard say that the it still seems a ways away from being ready. The combination of those is making me start to wonder if there will be another change in release date.

[mdriftmeyer]

Originally Posted by chr1s60

Am I the only one starting to think that Leopard is going to be pushed back again??? I know Apple still has a little bit of time, but I am starting to think it might not be released til November or even early next year.

After seeding Leopard 9A528d just yesterday, Apple has released 9A559 to ADC members tonight. Yesterday's update appears to have been primarily testing Leopard's Software Update mechanism.

The 6.55GB download lists only two known issues for Leopard. The two issues described involve upgrading from Tiger to Leopard on PowerPC systems in certain scenarios, and HP printer drivers.

Having worked for both NeXT and Apple these revisions are to be expected. Dev releases to 3rd parties always lag behind internal builds. Internal builds are branched and target specific areas of development.

GM will remerge into the mainline branch when it's ready. And no, this isn't a delay. This should give you more confidence they are reaching GM.

[BTW]

Originally Posted by chr1s60

Am I the only one starting to think that Leopard is going to be pushed back again??? I know Apple still has a little bit of time, but I am starting to think it might not be released til November or even early next year.

Nope, I think it is coming down to the wire and they'll push it again. Yet, I believe Apple should start doing open public betas to non-ADC members. They did it with 10.0 for $20 and when it went gold the $20 was discounted from the release price.

There are plenty of wannabe-bleeding-edgers out there so why shouldn't Apple use them.

[samh004]

Originally Posted by BTW

There are plenty of wannabe-bleeding-edgers out there so why shouldn't Apple use them.

Because they already have enough developers to help them along, and they'll get your money in the end for it anyway, so the extra $20 per person (that will be discounted from the final price) means nothing to them at this stage.

[aLoC]

Those who hate the new Dock can always put shortcuts all over your desktop (like Windows people).

[chrisdazzo]

Originally Posted by aLoC

Those who hate the new Dock can always put shortcuts all over your desktop (like Windows people).

Haha. Windows... Eh. I'm wondering what Apple is going to do about the dock looking weird on the sides of the screen. That really bugs me, though I don't even put my dock anywhere but the bottom of the screen.

[mdriftmeyer]

Originally Posted by samh004

Because they already have enough developers to help them along, and they'll get your money in the end for it anyway, so the extra $20 per person (that will be discounted from the final price) means nothing to them at this stage.

For some reason people don't register that over 4,000 paying developers show up at WWDC and many more pay for Select accounts that don't show up and still develop products.

There are enough people banging on the code but that seems to be overlooked by most consumers.

There comes a point when too many cooks spoil the soup.

[bluedoggiant]

he knows everything apple, and owns leopard, check this out: http://thinksecret.com/news/0709leopard9a599.html

[heisetax]

Originally Posted by chr1s60

Am I the only one starting to think that Leopard is going to be pushed back again??? I know Apple still has a little bit of time, but I am starting to think it might not be released til November or even early next year.

Do you mean that we will be able to purchase our copy of the just released Mac OS 10.5 on the same day as MS releases MS Office 2008 for the Mac?

Bill the TaxMan

[Srestrepo]

If I remember correctly. Tiger was seeded like 3 times in a week before it went Gold Master. this is 2. Progress?

[shawnce]

Originally Posted by Srestrepo

If I remember correctly. Tiger was seeded like 3 times in a week before it went Gold Master. this is 2. Progress?

Likely shouldn't count the last update... it was primarily a test of the software update system. They did this once before with Leopard... release a software update followed a few days later by a much later build.

[alljunks]

1 step closer for releaseing!!!!!

[cbetta]

So, is this new version also available through the updater, or do I nee to download the big-ass DMG?

[abrooks]

Originally Posted by Srestrepo

If I remember correctly. Tiger was seeded like 3 times in a week before it went Gold Master. this is 2. Progress?

Previous update was incredibly minor, only updated the Dictionary.app.

[mattbray]

Pssh... Let's hope it comes soon

[cypherpunks]

Originally Posted by mattbray

I have 9A528d and it's not showing up in Software Update.

It's a new build. Go grab it off the Leopard Dev Center website. (And if you don't have access to the Leopard Dev Center, you shouldn't be running it!)

[pixlnet]

theyve got over a month left of time to work out the kinks. nobody said itll ship in october, they just said it will be ready in october. part of me thinks itll be in apple stores in late october though. lets hope! leopard server looks extremely appealing.

[mrkramer]

Originally Posted by pixlnet

nobody said itll ship in october, they just said it will be ready in october. part of me thinks itll be in apple stores in late october though. lets hope! leopard server looks extremely appealing.

Apple did say that it was shipping in October

[FJ218700]

if PPC upgrade compatibility takes until 10.5.1, that's fine. They really must get Leopard for Intels out by the 31st though.