Intel Demos Next Generation Mobile Processor

MacRumors · Oct 15, 2007, 03:26 PM

Electronista details Intel's demo of a mobile quad-core processor at their Developer Forum in Taiwan. The mobile quad-core processor was a version of the upcoming Penryn architecture and is expected to ship in the second half of 2008.

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The CPU required larger-than-normal cooling equipment given the rough state of the processor, but was stable despite its 847 million transistors and a typical peak usage of 45 watts versus the 35 of today's Core 2 Duo processors, the Intel executive said.

The processor will also be introduced alongside the new "Motevina" platform which will replace the current Santa Rosa chipset. This new chipset will boost the bus-speed to 1066MHz (up from 800MHz), provide improved integrated graphics, 800MHz DDR2 and DDR3 support. Due to the power requirements, the processor would first see use in desktops and larger laptops, but improved cooling systems will help the transition.

Penryn represents a full class of processors from mobile to server. The first of the Penryn processors (server class) are expected to ship in November, and could be used in future Mac Pros. The first of the Penryn mobile processors are not due until January 2008 and are expected to power the next generation MacBook Pros.

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psychofreak · Oct 15, 2007, 03:28 PM

'Larger laptops'...seems suited to the iMacs...

plumbingandtech · Oct 15, 2007, 03:28 PM

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1066MHz (up from 800MHz), provide improved integrated graphics, 800MHz DDR2 and DDR3 support

Does this mean the bus will have to run slower to account for the speed in memory?

dizastor · Oct 15, 2007, 03:35 PM

quad core MacBook Pro

mmm.

BTW · Oct 15, 2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by psychofreak

'Larger laptops'...seems suited to the iMacs...

That's what I was thinking. This is a good candidate for the 17" MacBook Pro and the iMacs.

Data · Oct 15, 2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by psychofreak

'Larger laptops'...seems suited to the iMacs...

It sounds crazy but seems actually treu ;-) .

Hudgie · Oct 15, 2007, 03:41 PM

Just let it mean new Macbooks in the next 4 weeks.

Multimedia · Oct 15, 2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dizastor

quad core MacBook Pro

mmm.

Not now. In a year.

plumbingandtech · Oct 15, 2007, 03:51 PM

and it will be another year or two it seems until a quad core mobile chip will achieve the same speed in bus and memory as the mac pro.

lazyrighteye · Oct 15, 2007, 03:52 PM

I just don't see Apple jumping to quad-core MBPs as soon as Jan.
I mean, from where MBPs are today to quads???
Would that not represent the largest leap in Apple's history?
Regardless, that's just not how they roll.
They'll take their sweet time and milk as much out of this tech as possible.
A small bump here, a tweak there - which is both smart business and annoying as all get out, to me.

T'hain Esh Kelch · Oct 15, 2007, 03:54 PM

Im not sure I like a 30% increase in watt usage..

flopticalcube · Oct 15, 2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyrighteye

I just don't see Apple jumping to quad-core MBPs as soon as Jan.
I mean, from where MBPs are today to quads???
Would that not represent the largest leap in Apple's history?
Regardless, that's just not how they roll.
They'll take their sweet time and milk as much out of this tech as possible.
A small bump here, a tweak there - which is both smart business and annoying as all get out, to me.

These quad CPUs won't be around until H2 '08.

flopticalcube · Oct 15, 2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by plumbingandtech

Does this mean the bus will have to run slower to account for the speed in memory?

bus speed ≠ memory speed.

Memory and system bus have been decoupled for several years now.

brianus · Oct 15, 2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyrighteye

I just don't see Apple jumping to quad-core MBPs as soon as Jan.

Me neither, considering, as the article said, these quad-core processors won't even be available until the second half of 2008. They couldn't do it in Jan even if they wanted to. My fear is that they just don't want to -- Apple doesn't seem interested in the highest-end mobile processors even now because they're more interested in conserving battery life and maintaining a very thin enclosure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple doesn't go for quad-core laptops until 2009, since this first generation, at least, looks like it's gonna be pretty power-hungry.

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Not now. In a year.

I hope! ...but I doubt it.

dizastor · Oct 15, 2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Multimedia

Not now. In a year.

That won't make it less delicious.

Eidorian · Oct 15, 2007, 04:06 PM

Maybe we can merge threads.

I wonder what AMD is up to on the mobile front. It looks like K8 has an even longer life there.

psychofreak · Oct 15, 2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T'hain Esh Kelch

Im not sure I like a 30% increase in watt usage..

And neither will Apple...

plumbingandtech · Oct 15, 2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flopticalcube

bus speed ? memory speed.

Memory and system bus have been decoupled for several years now.

Excellent. Thank you.

MrCrowbar · Oct 15, 2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by plumbingandtech

Does this mean the bus will have to run slower to account for the speed in memory?

Well, assuming you have 2 RAM modules each running at 800 MHz, the bus should actually be 1600 MHz to fully use the speed of the RAM. On RAM module can be read while the other one is written onto (as long as the data belongs to different processes). Either way, a faster bus or RAM is a step up.

MrCrowbar · Oct 15, 2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by T'hain Esh Kelch

Im not sure I like a 30% increase in watt usage..

Well, it has the "extreme" label on it which means: "Look at me, I'm sucking up power like crazy for a few more MHz". So the normal quad core versions should be more normal in terms of power usage. I actually love mobile CPUs for home server: can't beat those 15 Watts a Mac Mini is using. I think my internet setup is using more than that.

I want a Mini with Leopard on it so bad. Think Apple might lower the price for those someday?

KingYaba · Oct 15, 2007, 04:16 PM

Goodbye battery life.

Eidorian · Oct 15, 2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KingYaba

Goodbye battery life.

The quad is designed for a desktop replacement.

Dual core processors will see better battery life under Penryn.

psychofreak · Oct 15, 2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KingYaba

Goodbye battery life.

Batteries also increase technologically...hopefully at a better rate than the power usage will increase for these CPUs...

masse · Oct 15, 2007, 04:21 PM

Just what I've been waiting for. By back to school season I hope...

I want my $200 to an ipod touch.

twoodcc · Oct 15, 2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by psychofreak

'Larger laptops'...seems suited to the iMacs...

yes it does.....and maybe the mac mini.

Oct 15, 2007, 03:35 PM	#4
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lazyrighteye macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denver, CO	Quad MBPs? Not Yet I just don't see Apple jumping to quad-core MBPs as soon as Jan. I mean, from where MBPs are today to quads??? Would that not represent the largest leap in Apple's history? Regardless, that's just not how they roll. They'll take their sweet time and milk as much out of this tech as possible. A small bump here, a tweak there - which is both smart business and annoying as all get out, to me.

Oct 15, 2007, 03:54 PM	#11
T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark	Im not sure I like a 30% increase in watt usage.. __________________ "There's no bigot like a religious bigot and there's no religion more fanatical than that espoused by Macintosh zealots." ~Martin Veitch, IT Week [31-01-2003]

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Hudgie macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Just let it mean new Macbooks in the next 4 weeks.

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