Google Adds IMAP Access For GMail

FunkyJunk · Oct 24, 2007, 10:40 AM

Note: I would respectfully ask edesignuk not to lock this thread. I think there are people who would like to discuss the iphone-specific issues surrounding Gmail IMAP support without confusing Mac Mail cross-conversations.
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I set up my iPhone to accept Gmail's new IMAP support, but it doesn't seem to be doing any "push" email. I can only get new emails if I go into the iPhone's mail application or set up automatic polling on the phone. I was under the impression that IMAP specifically implied "push" email, but perhaps not?

For the record, I've set everything up as per Gmail's instruction pages.

edesignuk · Oct 24, 2007, 10:50 AM

IMAP is not Push. It just keeps messages on the server, it doesn't push them down to you though. You still have to "request" new messages.

Fuchal · Oct 24, 2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunkyJunk

Note: I would respectfully ask edesignuk not to lock this thread. I think there are people who would like to discuss the iphone-specific issues surrounding Gmail IMAP support without confusing Mac Mail cross-conversations.
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I set up my iPhone to accept Gmail's new IMAP support, but it doesn't seem to be doing any "push" email. I can only get new emails if I go into the iPhone's mail application or set up automatic polling on the phone. I was under the impression that IMAP specifically implied "push" email, but perhaps not?

For the record, I've set everything up as per Gmail's instruction pages.

I havent seen any specific reference claiming that gmail does push imap (it has to support IDLE). But I also feel that the iPhone does not support push imap on just any old imap account - only yahoo. (you dont seem to get the push on/off option for any imap account you set up other than yahoo's) I may be wrong, however.

FunkyJunk · Oct 24, 2007, 10:59 AM

IMAP != push.... understood. Sorry to see that, but I'm not going to go back to my Gmail>Yahoo forwarding mess in order to get that back. I guess I don't really mind checking myself and letting the phone poll every 15 minutes if it means that read/unread mail gets updated across both platforms.

bigandy · Oct 24, 2007, 11:20 AM

Google posted a YouTube video about setting it up if anyone needs it.

billchase2 · Oct 24, 2007, 11:42 AM

it works GREAT! i now have access to all my "folders" within gmail and everything. quite happy! i've been waiting for this...

mobilehavoc · Oct 24, 2007, 12:26 PM

IMAP 'push' aka Yahoo on iPhone is done using IMAP_IDLE which is usually supported out of box with any IMAP implementation. However, iPhone's IMAP support doesn't work with IMAP_IDLE for any IMAP account except for Yahoo right now.

Basically IMAP_IDLE leaves the connection to the IMAP server open and receives notification from the server when new mail arrives. I have a personal IMAP account that works this way in Outlook but not on iPhone.

ClemTiger0408 · Oct 24, 2007, 01:25 PM

I really wish Google would get on the ball and add IMAP to my account! I'm dying to get this working!

x0lliex · Oct 24, 2007, 01:29 PM

My very old gmail account from May 2004 has IMAP enabled. I have just set it up on the iPhone and it is so much better than pop. I didn't have to go through and mark every single email as read, they already arrived read (as they have obviously been read already). I can also see all of my folders and can actually delete stuff from the phone. My other gmail account from December 2004 has yet to get IMAP support.

philhyde · Oct 24, 2007, 01:52 PM

You get what you pay for!

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Originally Posted by ClemTiger0408

I really wish Google would get on the ball and add IMAP to my account! I'm dying to get this working!

shane1598 · Oct 24, 2007, 01:56 PM

it is so much better than pop. I dont know what i love more the iphone or gmail.

Mac-Addict · Oct 24, 2007, 01:58 PM

I havent got IMAP on my gmail yet either, it will be on there soon.

chrischile22 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:22 PM

does the new gmail IMAP prevent every email you send from your iphone from arriving back in your inbox as an unread email?

FunkyJunk · Oct 24, 2007, 02:34 PM

Apparently not.

It posts it to your inbox, but at least it's listed as "read" not "unread."

Drumjim85 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischile22

does the new gmail IMAP prevent every email you send from your iphone from arriving back in your inbox as an unread email?

i think it does .... the sent mail goes to "sent" and "all mail" but not the inbox ....

chrischile22 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:42 PM

Well, if it puts it in the inbox as "read" then that solves 90% of the problem... it's just annoying to send an email, then forget about it, put the phone back in your pocket, only to get a "beep" several minutes later letting you know that you have mail. So, you think, "cool, I got a reply," or "huh, I wonder what new email I have?", only to be fooled once because, nope, it's just the same email you sent a few minutes ago.

iscripter · Oct 24, 2007, 02:43 PM

When can you tell if you have access to IMAP support on Gmail. Do they send you a email to let you know of the new feature or do you just have to keep going back and checking your settings panel in Gmail?

I need this new functionality bad.

Drumjim85 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iscripter

When can you tell if you have access to IMAP support on Gmail. Do they send you a email to let you know of the new feature or do you just have to keep going back and checking your settings panel in Gmail?

I need this new functionality bad.

ya, it just appears in the settings ... theres a tab that read something like ... forwarding pop/imap

FunkyJunk · Oct 24, 2007, 02:50 PM

You might have to sign out of Gmail and then back in for it to show up. (maybe not)

gceo · Oct 24, 2007, 02:53 PM

Anyone know if POP is coming to Gmail?

Drumjim85 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gceo

Anyone know if POP is coming to Gmail?

are you being sarcastic??

Mondochuk · Oct 24, 2007, 03:41 PM

I didn't see it specifically addressed anywhere, but on the iPhone support site they say you can "copy" a conversation to multiple folders (labels). I'm not sure what I'm missing, how do you "copy" a new e-mail to different folders while keeping it in the inbox? Or just "copy" it to one folder for that matter? All I see is "Move" it to a folder.

gceo · Oct 24, 2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumjim85

are you being sarcastic??

No, am I missing something here? I dislike the Yahoo POP and am hoping to get my GMail account on POP.

Why would I be sarcastic?

FunkyJunk · Oct 24, 2007, 04:40 PM

Unless you're actually referring to IMAP (which Yahoo has), then just go through the big Gmail button on your iPhone email setup and you'll get POP access.

Drumjim85 · Oct 24, 2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gceo

No, am I missing something here? I dislike the Yahoo POP and am hoping to get my GMail account on POP.

Why would I be sarcastic?

Cause pop is so old, everything has pop ... gmail has always had this ...

although I'm not sure why you want to use pop when IMAP is now available...

Oct 24, 2007, 10:40 AM	#1
FunkyJunk macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA, USA	Gmail IMAP on the iPhone Note: I would respectfully ask edesignuk not to lock this thread. I think there are people who would like to discuss the iphone-specific issues surrounding Gmail IMAP support without confusing Mac Mail cross-conversations. --- I set up my iPhone to accept Gmail's new IMAP support, but it doesn't seem to be doing any "push" email. I can only get new emails if I go into the iPhone's mail application or set up automatic polling on the phone. I was under the impression that IMAP specifically implied "push" email, but perhaps not? For the record, I've set everything up as per Gmail's instruction pages. __________________ MacBook, iPhone

Oct 24, 2007, 10:50 AM	#2
edesignuk Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Great(?) Britain	IMAP is not Push. It just keeps messages on the server, it doesn't push them down to you though. You still have to "request" new messages. __________________ Search before you post: MRoogle **Better BBC Search**

Oct 24, 2007, 10:59 AM	#4
FunkyJunk Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA, USA	IMAP != push.... understood. Sorry to see that, but I'm not going to go back to my Gmail>Yahoo forwarding mess in order to get that back. I guess I don't really mind checking myself and letting the phone poll every 15 minutes if it means that read/unread mail gets updated across both platforms. __________________ MacBook, iPhone

Oct 24, 2007, 11:20 AM	#5
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Oct 24, 2007, 11:42 AM	#6
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Oct 24, 2007, 12:26 PM	#7
mobilehavoc macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2007	IMAP 'push' aka Yahoo on iPhone is done using IMAP_IDLE which is usually supported out of box with any IMAP implementation. However, iPhone's IMAP support doesn't work with IMAP_IDLE for any IMAP account except for Yahoo right now. Basically IMAP_IDLE leaves the connection to the IMAP server open and receives notification from the server when new mail arrives. I have a personal IMAP account that works this way in Outlook but not on iPhone.

Oct 24, 2007, 01:25 PM	#8
ClemTiger0408 macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2007	I really wish Google would get on the ball and add IMAP to my account! I'm dying to get this working!

Oct 24, 2007, 01:29 PM	#9
x0lliex macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2007	My very old gmail account from May 2004 has IMAP enabled. I have just set it up on the iPhone and it is so much better than pop. I didn't have to go through and mark every single email as read, they already arrived read (as they have obviously been read already). I can also see all of my folders and can actually delete stuff from the phone. My other gmail account from December 2004 has yet to get IMAP support.

Oct 24, 2007, 01:56 PM	#11
shane1598 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: St. Louis	it is so much better than pop. I dont know what i love more the iphone or gmail. __________________ 16 gig 3g Iphone Black 8gig iPhone Edit: $600 ipod

Oct 24, 2007, 01:58 PM	#12
Mac-Addict macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London	I havent got IMAP on my gmail yet either, it will be on there soon. __________________ Aluminum 20" iMac 2.0ghz 2gb, 15" Macbook Pro 2.33ghz 3gb, D90 18-105mm 55-200mm 50mm, Silver iPod Shuffle, Black iPhone 3g 16GB

Oct 24, 2007, 02:22 PM	#13
chrischile22 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	sent email does the new gmail IMAP prevent every email you send from your iphone from arriving back in your inbox as an unread email?

Oct 24, 2007, 02:34 PM	#14
FunkyJunk Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA, USA	Apparently not. It posts it to your inbox, but at least it's listed as "read" not "unread." __________________ MacBook, iPhone

Oct 24, 2007, 02:42 PM	#16
chrischile22 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	sent mail Well, if it puts it in the inbox as "read" then that solves 90% of the problem... it's just annoying to send an email, then forget about it, put the phone back in your pocket, only to get a "beep" several minutes later letting you know that you have mail. So, you think, "cool, I got a reply," or "huh, I wonder what new email I have?", only to be fooled once because, nope, it's just the same email you sent a few minutes ago.

Oct 24, 2007, 02:43 PM	#17
iscripter macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002	Gmail IMAP support When can you tell if you have access to IMAP support on Gmail. Do they send you a email to let you know of the new feature or do you just have to keep going back and checking your settings panel in Gmail? I need this new functionality bad. __________________ The only good technology is reviewed Technology. http://www.techcritiques.com

Oct 24, 2007, 02:50 PM	#19
FunkyJunk Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA, USA	You might have to sign out of Gmail and then back in for it to show up. (maybe not) __________________ MacBook, iPhone

Oct 24, 2007, 02:53 PM	#20
gceo macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA	Anyone know if POP is coming to Gmail? __________________ ...since system 6

Oct 24, 2007, 03:41 PM	#22
Mondochuk macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eastern PA	I didn't see it specifically addressed anywhere, but on the iPhone support site they say you can "copy" a conversation to multiple folders (labels). I'm not sure what I'm missing, how do you "copy" a new e-mail to different folders while keeping it in the inbox? Or just "copy" it to one folder for that matter? All I see is "Move" it to a folder.

Oct 24, 2007, 04:40 PM	#24
FunkyJunk Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA, USA	Unless you're actually referring to IMAP (which Yahoo has), then just go through the big Gmail button on your iPhone email setup and you'll get POP access. __________________ MacBook, iPhone

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