Steve Wozniak on Apple, Leopard and Jailbreaking the iPhone

MacRumors · Oct 31, 2007, 03:01 AM

Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, was interviewed by LaptopMag.com about various topics surrounding Apple.

Wozniak provides his insight into Leopard, Mac Marketshare, as well as some disappointment at the direction computers have gone:

Quote:

Early on with the first Apples, we had these dreams that the computer would let you know what you wanted to do. .... The real dreams of how it will work for someone who knows nothing about the computer have been lost and don't get addressed anymore.

Also of interest, Wozniak is specifically asked about what his opinions are on the iPhone. Woz is clear that he feels that the iPhone should be "more like a computer" and Apple should allow anyone to develop applications for it. Regarding jailbreaking the iPhone for 3rd party applications:

Quote:

[Apple has] a right to lock [the iPhone]. But I am really for the unlockers, the rebels trying to make it free. I'd really like it to be open to new applications. I'd like to install some nice games. Why in the world can I not install a ringtone that I've made? How would that hurt AT&T's network? Here is Steve Jobs sending letters to the record companies saying [they] should provide music that's unprotected, but here he is taking the opposite approach with the iPhone. I don't know to what extent AT&T is involved in the thinking and direction.

While Apple has announced they are working on a Software Development Kit to be released in February 2008, the details of the restrictions have not yet been announced.

Steve Wozniak co-founded Apple in 1976 along with Steve Jobs.

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synth3tik · Oct 31, 2007, 03:02 AM

I read the interview yesterday. I always really enjoy reading interviews with Woz.

JSpence · Oct 31, 2007, 03:03 AM

Woz

samh004 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:06 AM

How much influence will he have though, speaking about it in his role.

exigentsky · Oct 31, 2007, 03:10 AM

It's always nice to see a legend like Woz candidly speak about these issues. I mostly agree with him, especially on the iPhone. It's ridiculous that it is so locked down in almost every way. He is spot on that you should be able to install new programs and your own ringtones. It's also disgusting that Apple is charging an extra 99c just for using A SONG YOU ALREADY OWN to make a 30 sec ringtone. It's as if I purchase pepper from the store and I have to buy a separate one for every food. I have to buy one for soup, one for steak, etc. Apple shouldn't be allowed to do this; we shouldn't tolerate it.

Shotgun Pete · Oct 31, 2007, 03:11 AM

Its not that he has a lot of pull, so I imagine little or no influence. I think it isjust nice to hear from him being the creative mind that he is.

erockerboy · Oct 31, 2007, 03:13 AM

Woz is the MAN!!!!!!

The iPhone wants to be free. Let it fly, Steve Jobs.

pieman02 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:13 AM

Thats what Im talking about Woz!

LastZion · Oct 31, 2007, 03:15 AM

WOZ is a legend... always enjoy reading Woz articles, cheers for that.

aznguy2772 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:17 AM

Oh, if only Woz could replace Mr. Jobs. That would be the day.

daddywags214 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:19 AM

Woz makes valid point. His opinions are often valid, as he has the benefit of being an insider, as well as being removed from the corporate voice of Apple, thus providing wonderful insight into Apple's products and policies.

redAPPLE · Oct 31, 2007, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by exigentsky

It's always nice to see a legend like Woz candidly speak about these issues. I mostly agree with him, especially on the iPhone. It's ridiculous that it is so locked down in almost every way. He is spot on that you should be able to install new programs and your own ringtones. It's also disgusting that Apple is charging an extra 99c just for using A SONG YOU ALREADY OWN to make a 30 sec ringtone. It's as if I purchase pepper from the store and I have to buy a separate one for every food. I have to buy one for soup, one for steak, etc. Apple shouldn't be allowed to do this; we shouldn't tolerate it.

this may have been addressed one time or another but, re: iPhone, apple is partnering with att. don't you think it is att's idea of locking the phone? don't you think it is the riaa's idea of selling the songs again to create ringtones? maybe apple signed an nda to not discuss this. not defending apple, but this is one possibility.

Dublo7 · 03:51 AM

I love Woz.

Marble · Oct 31, 2007, 03:29 AM

He seems perhaps more lucid to me in this interview than in some I've read. His point of view is always refreshing, however.

koobcamuk · Oct 31, 2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by exigentsky

Apple shouldn't be allowed to do this; we shouldn't tolerate it.

I didn't tolerate it. Jailbroken and unlocked. Oh well.

reckless_0001 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:41 AM

Woz is the bomb! He's awesome!

Any one who says bad stuff about him, obviously doesn't know what they are taking about.

ErikGrim · Oct 31, 2007, 03:58 AM

This was actually a pretty good interview. Kudos Laptop mag for not going for the dry played out questions he always seems to answer.

john789 · Oct 31, 2007, 03:59 AM

I really think he is a cool guy. I like the way he thinks about computers. MAybe she should take more lead and take Apple a whole new level.....of course i dont think jobs will be too happy about it.

Rodimus Prime · Oct 31, 2007, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aznguy2772

Oh, if only Woz could replace Mr. Jobs. That would be the day.

yeah I agree. I think it is getting time for Jobs to step down. While Jobs is a good CEO when the company was in trouble right now with the company doing great I think he is a poor CEO and likes to have to much control. I do agree apple is rather very hypercritical in how they act. I can not stand hypocrites and that is what apple has become. Jobs is leading them down that path and it is getting time for him to step down and let some else take control and lead the company. It needs fresh leadership and some one who is less of a control freak. Apple is a huge control freak of a company.

Evangelion · Oct 31, 2007, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aznguy2772

Oh, if only Woz could replace Mr. Jobs. That would be the day.

Woz is a brilliant engineer. He's also quite insightful on many technical issues. But he's not a brilliant businessman. And the CEO of Apple needs to be a brilliant businessman rather than brilliant engineer.

chr1s60 · Oct 31, 2007, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodimus Prime

yeah I agree. I think it is getting time for Jobs to step down. While Jobs is a good CEO when the company was in trouble right now with the company doing great I think he is a poor CEO and likes to have to much control. I do agree apple is rather very hypercritical in how they act. I can not stand hypocrites and that is what apple has become. Jobs is leading them down that path and it is getting time for him to step down and let some else take control and lead the company. It needs fresh leadership and some one who is less of a control freak. Apple is a huge control freak of a company.

I couldn't disagree with you more. While Jobs may be turning into a control freak, I think him stepping down would do much more bad than good.

ikir · Oct 31, 2007, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aznguy2772

Oh, if only Woz could replace Mr. Jobs. That would be the day.

Ah ah ah ah ah.

Ah ah ah ah ah....

Nice reading yes, but stop this no sense :-D

TheBigMac · Oct 31, 2007, 05:07 AM

I remember in the recent Steve Jobs and Bill Gates interview when Jobs was asked about regrets and if he could have done anything different his response was along the lines of " I wish I hadn't been so restrictive with software".

Jobs was also a phone phreaker/hacker back in college. Now like so many successful businessmen, Jobs is more than likely paranoid that all he has built may collapse as he is only to aware of how he started in the first place.

Whilst Apples restrictions may make good short term financial sense, I feel that Steve Wozniak is more accepting that todays hackers and 3rd party developers are tomorrows innovators and need an open platform to experiment with.

Darkroom · Oct 31, 2007, 06:11 AM

i like to think that the steve jobs is actually trying to change the music and cell phone industry, and to do so apple's gotta play the big-business-game full of phony back-pats, cigars and hearty-laughter for a while... woz is a smart man, but he seems a bit... well... naive...

boss1 · Oct 31, 2007, 06:30 AM

ok ok. Woz............. is in a position............ where he doesn't have to be held accountable for what he says.

He may truly mean what he says but I think it's no coincidence the things he says garners support towards him as a 'leader' of the computer/mac movement

. It's pretty apparent he has support from people on the boards at least. Awesome politics; that's all I have to say about his interview(s).

I wonder if Steve J. is banging his forehead on the desk while reading his statements.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:02 AM	#2
synth3tik macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN	I read the interview yesterday. I always really enjoy reading interviews with Woz. __________________ Come check out my music! http://www.batteriesarentfood.com http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/BatteriesarentFood

Oct 31, 2007, 03:03 AM	#3
JSpence macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, FL	Woz __________________ l SR MB l 4GB l 2.2GHz l 120GB HD l Think Different

Oct 31, 2007, 03:06 AM	#4
samh004 macrumors 68020 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia	How much influence will he have though, speaking about it in his role. __________________ Website \| Blog

Oct 31, 2007, 03:11 AM	#6
Shotgun Pete macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada	Its not that he has a lot of pull, so I imagine little or no influence. I think it isjust nice to hear from him being the creative mind that he is. __________________ 1.83ghz Core Duo Macbook 2gb ram, 8gb iPhone 3g.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:13 AM	#7
erockerboy macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SEA, WA, US	Woz is the MAN!!!!!! The iPhone wants to be free. Let it fly, Steve Jobs. __________________ http://deathbeforewindows.blogspot.com/

Oct 31, 2007, 03:10 AM	#5
exigentsky macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2007	It's always nice to see a legend like Woz candidly speak about these issues. I mostly agree with him, especially on the iPhone. It's ridiculous that it is so locked down in almost every way. He is spot on that you should be able to install new programs and your own ringtones. It's also disgusting that Apple is charging an extra 99c just for using A SONG YOU ALREADY OWN to make a 30 sec ringtone. It's as if I purchase pepper from the store and I have to buy a separate one for every food. I have to buy one for soup, one for steak, etc. Apple shouldn't be allowed to do this; we shouldn't tolerate it.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:13 AM	#8
pieman02 macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2007	Thats what Im talking about Woz!

Oct 31, 2007, 03:15 AM	#9
LastZion macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2006	WOZ is a legend... always enjoy reading Woz articles, cheers for that. __________________ 2.53 Unibody MacBook Pro, 4 Gigs of Ram, 320gig HD, 60 gig Ipod video, 500 Gig Time Capsule, 16 gig LEGALLY Unlocked iPhone 3G, 32 Gig white 3GS.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:17 AM	#10
aznguy2772 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007	Oh, if only Woz could replace Mr. Jobs. That would be the day. __________________ 13.3-in Black Macbook 2 GHz Intel Core Duo, iPhone 8GB,iPod 20 GB-3rd Generation, Black iPod 30 GB-5th Generation, Silver iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation

Oct 31, 2007, 03:19 AM	#11
daddywags214 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2006	Woz makes valid point. His opinions are often valid, as he has the benefit of being an insider, as well as being removed from the corporate voice of Apple, thus providing wonderful insight into Apple's products and policies. __________________ Mac Pro/MacBook Air/iPhone 3G S

Oct 31, 2007, 03:26 AM	#13
Dublo7 macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Perth, Australia.	I love Woz. Last edited by Nermal : Oct 31, 2007 at 03:51 AM.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:29 AM	#14
Marble macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norwich, Norfolk	He seems perhaps more lucid to me in this interview than in some I've read. His point of view is always refreshing, however.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:41 AM	#16
reckless_0001 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada	Woz is the bomb! He's awesome! Any one who says bad stuff about him, obviously doesn't know what they are taking about.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:58 AM	#17
ErikGrim macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gold Coast, Australia	This was actually a pretty good interview. Kudos Laptop mag for not going for the dry played out questions he always seems to answer.

Oct 31, 2007, 03:59 AM	#18
john789 macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2007	awesome I really think he is a cool guy. I like the way he thinks about computers. MAybe she should take more lead and take Apple a whole new level.....of course i dont think jobs will be too happy about it. __________________ New Mac user with a now OUTDATED Macbook..... My poor macbook is only several month old and its now OUTDATED!! GAH!

Oct 31, 2007, 05:07 AM	#23
TheBigMac macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2007	I remember in the recent Steve Jobs and Bill Gates interview when Jobs was asked about regrets and if he could have done anything different his response was along the lines of " I wish I hadn't been so restrictive with software". Jobs was also a phone phreaker/hacker back in college. Now like so many successful businessmen, Jobs is more than likely paranoid that all he has built may collapse as he is only to aware of how he started in the first place. Whilst Apples restrictions may make good short term financial sense, I feel that Steve Wozniak is more accepting that todays hackers and 3rd party developers are tomorrows innovators and need an open platform to experiment with.

Oct 31, 2007, 06:11 AM	#24
Darkroom macrumors 68000 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montréal, Canada	i like to think that the steve jobs is actually trying to change the music and cell phone industry, and to do so apple's gotta play the big-business-game full of phony back-pats, cigars and hearty-laughter for a while... woz is a smart man, but he seems a bit... well... naive... __________________ iPhone OS Apps: Film Light, SizeMe.

Oct 31, 2007, 06:30 AM	#25
boss1 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2007	ok ok. Woz............. is in a position............ where he doesn't have to be held accountable for what he says. He may truly mean what he says but I think it's no coincidence the things he says garners support towards him as a 'leader' of the computer/mac movement . It's pretty apparent he has support from people on the boards at least. Awesome politics; that's all I have to say about his interview(s). I wonder if Steve J. is banging his forehead on the desk while reading his statements.

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