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Daveman Deluxe

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http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20854

This came up in my RSS feed from versiontracker. Any thoughts?

It's a kernel extension that replaces the current drivers in the iBook and PowerBook G4. It enables vertical scrolling, horizontal scrolling, mapping the hardware button to left- and right-click (!!!) and mapping the trackpad to left- and right-click.

It's a beta, however. Any thoughts on this product?

Edit: from the same folks that brought you MenuMeters! :D
 

asphalt-proof

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Aug 15, 2003
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Wow,
As a PC user this renders my last excuse for not buying an ibook or powerbook obsolete. I hate the one button mouse and dreaded the thought of using it. But I'm now ready to go out an buy the new 15" (when it comes out).
 

amin

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Aug 17, 2003
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Wow, this is fantastic. Just being able to vertical scroll with right side of my pad makes this worthwhile. I hope they don't add any new features to complicate things. I will buy this when it expires (unless it's really expensive).

The only issue I'm having is that when I swipe too close to the right edge, it thinks I want to do a vertical scroll and gets stuck. Guess I'll have to avoid the right edge of the pad unless I'm trying to scroll.
 

Daveman Deluxe

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I thought you all would like this. I mainly posted here because I wanted to hear a bit about it before I install, since it can cause kernel panics. Glad you all enjoyed it! :D
 

dcbendi

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Sep 12, 2003
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two button mice

Why are people so hung up on the one button mouse thing? I have a two button mouse with scroll wheel (dial?) on the mac, works great.
 

Nermal

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This is very useful. Whenever I don't have my mouse with me, I always miss the lack of a scroll wheel. Now I don't have to worry about it :)
 

Daveman Deluxe

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Re: two button mice

Originally posted by dcbendi
Why are people so hung up on the one button mouse thing? I have a two button mouse with scroll wheel (dial?) on the mac, works great.

I'm not worried about not having a two-button mouse since I bought one for $10 and got another for free after rebates.

I'm more frustrated about having a single-button trackpad, which is harder to replace than a mouse.
 

dstorey

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Dec 14, 2002
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Although I'd like a two button mouse with scroll to come with a Mac (yeah you can buy seperate bt why buy seperate when already paid for a mouse when buy comp and other mice dont have Apples design and look ulgy to me) but on a laptop whats the difference between control click and right click when your hands are already right next to the keyboard, except for being more obvious for novice users?
 

sparkleytone

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Originally posted by dstorey
Although I'd like a two button mouse with scroll to come with a Mac (yeah you can buy seperate bt why buy seperate when already paid for a mouse when buy comp and other mice dont have Apples design and look ulgy to me) but on a laptop whats the difference between control click and right click when your hands are already right next to the keyboard, except for being more obvious for novice users?

i could care less about the right click function. i find it gets in the way on trackpads anyways. what makes this program great, imho, is getting the SCROLL function we should have in the FIRST place. i really don't see why apple doesn't at least give the option.
 

sjk

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May 2, 2003
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Re: two button mice

Originally posted by Daveman Deluxe
I'm more frustrated about having a single-button trackpad, which is harder to replace than a mouse.
I was surprised how quickly I got comfortable with the one-button trackpad on my iBook 600 after some initial "flying cursor" static issues disappeared. I've struggled more trying to use the one-button Apple mouse on Macs at stores and know I won't use one when I get a desktop Mac sometime after Panther is included. I'll use my Wacom tablet more then since I can leave it permanently attached.

I've never used a two-button trackpad much because the one on my wife's Toshiba notebook generates "random" (and potentially dangerous!) left clicks, regardless of preference tweaking. At times it seemingly happened even when I wasn't touching the trackpad at all(!) So the mouse has been a permanent peripheral for a couple years.

A few weeks ago while repairing a friend's Windows worm/virus-infested Toshiba notebook I quickly discovered it had the same random-click-trackpad behavior(!) I dunno what it is with those trackpads but they're usable for me. It may be I've overlooked something "obvious", and writing this inspires me to google a bit for info about it after posting here. :)

I'll be interested to try SideTrack on my iBook tho' probably not 'til it's out of beta since I'm not doing anything risky with my system before an upcoming holiday. I like MenuMeters... just wish the menubar wasn't maxed-out crowded now. I'd give up the vertical space to have a second, separate, always-visible menu bar for various "menu extras" that won't be obscured by application menus. Hmm, that would be an interesting utility... maybe a future Unsanity haxie? :D
 

Schiffi

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May 22, 2003
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It's really sad at the number of people not buying iBooks/Powerbooks dues to the one button mouse thing. Frankly I hope Apple never retires the one button mouse.
 

Daveman Deluxe

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On further thought, yeah, it is better to have a single-button mouse. Having the scroll function is REALLY nice though. I always hated scrolling through long documents when away from my PowerMate before.
 
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