Santa Rosa MacBook (November 2007) Benchmarks

MacRumors · Nov 6, 2007, 10:43 PM

Primate Labs posted benchmark results comparing the new Santa Rosa MacBooks that were quietly updated last week to the Santa Rosa chipset along with the new GMA X3100 integrated video card.

In terms of pure processor speed, the MacBook updates seemed negligible (2.0GHz -> 2.0GHz, 2.16GHz -> 2.2GHz), though the underlying bus speed was increased to 800MHz from 667MHz.

The published benchmarks compared the 2.16GHz previous MacBook to the 2.2GHz new MacBook, and did significantly boost memory performance by 15% and stream performance by 25%, reflecting the increased bus speed. Integer, floating point, and overall performance, however, was only marginally improved.

Graphics performance was not tested, but the GMA X3100 should also provide performance boosts over the previous integrated video card (GMA 950).

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queshy · Nov 6, 2007, 10:45 PM

Thought so...I'm looking forward to MWSF where we might see some new notebooks (and not just bumped up versions of the current ones!)

David G. · Nov 6, 2007, 10:48 PM

I was wondering when they were going to release the new info, and now they have.

entropy1980 · Nov 6, 2007, 10:51 PM

So anybody seen any benches on how WOW performs on new x3100? I may bite but only if performance is up from the lowsy 950....

deathshrub · Nov 6, 2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrumors

Graphics performance was not tested

Wonder why.

jholzner · Nov 6, 2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by queshy

Thought so...I'm looking forward to MWSF where we might see some new notebooks (and not just bumped up versions of the current ones!)

So I assume you define "new notebooks" as a case redesign? This is a new chip set based on Santa Rosa. It's a full 64 bit MB, faster front side bus, and supports twice the memory with much better graphics They can only give what intel has to offer and this is the best they have for their mobile platform right now. it wasn't just a speed bump.

Jdot · Nov 6, 2007, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathshrub

Wonder why.

They are probably waiting for the better drivers to be released in a week or so

meagain · Nov 6, 2007, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jholzner

it wasn't just a speed bump.

Exactly! I never understood why so many here poo-poo'd this last update.

Undecided · Nov 6, 2007, 11:03 PM

Cool! I just got my new blackbook today, and it's sweet!

Maccus Aurelius · Nov 6, 2007, 11:09 PM

More and more I find less reason to go with a Macbook Pro. I'll replace my MB with a new one when they get LED displays, then hand over the old one to the fiance and all's well with the world.

nagromme · Nov 6, 2007, 11:12 PM

To me, GMA X3100 is the BIG change. Bring on the 3D tests!

celloman · Nov 6, 2007, 11:13 PM

not too big of an update so im waitin for a bigger update for the MB

Eidorian · Nov 6, 2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagromme

To me, GMA X3100 is the BIG change. Bring on the 3D tests!

I can play Sims 2 on it about as well as it ran on my iMac G5 with Radeon 9600.

I don't have the multi-threaded expansions yet tough.

Here's my MacBook.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/22952

queshy · Nov 6, 2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jholzner

So I assume you define "new notebooks" as a case redesign? This is a new chip set based on Santa Rosa. It's a full 64 bit MB, faster front side bus, and supports twice the memory with much better graphics They can only give what intel has to offer and this is the best they have for their mobile platform right now. it wasn't just a speed bump.

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I meant a case design, and perhaps some new features. And there shouldn't be a combo drive on the base model. The speed of the machine is fine, imo, but there is still a gap in the lineup ever since the 12" G4 Powerbook went away.

AidenShaw · Nov 6, 2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jholzner

This is a new chip set based on Santa Rosa. It's a full 64 bit MB, faster front side bus, and supports twice the memory with much better graphics.

Sorry, but Santa Rosa is only a 36-bit chipset.

It's limited to 64 GiB max RAM.

(of course, for a laptop today, 36-bit is just as good as 64-bit

)

cohibadad · Nov 6, 2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eidorian

I can play Sims 2 on it about as well as it ran on my iMac G5 with Radeon 9600.

I don't have the multi-threaded expansions yet tough.

Here's my MacBook.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/22952

Why does it say Mac OS X 10.5 (Build 9A3110)?

ntrigue · Nov 6, 2007, 11:33 PM

Remember the disgruntled Macbook buyer that bought days before these were released? Someone should post this on his thread in the event he misses it.

OdduWon · 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntrigue
Remember the disgruntled Macbook buyer that bought days before these were released? Someone should post this on his thread in the event he misses it.

HE missed Macboo?

j/k, now AutoCAD will be BLAZING FAST!
and sketchUp...

drewyboy · Nov 6, 2007, 11:45 PM

I dont expect to see new macbooks till..oh.. may or so, won't be suprised if updated a tad bit earliern. i will expect to see not a case redesign... can someone please tell me why they would? going all alumi is not a valid answer. the macbook is a redesign in itself which has only been around for ..coming up on two years i believe. take a look at what other products have been redesigned. iMac. That's it. Macbook pro stayed the same, Mac Pro's the same, iMac, basically the same just different casing. iBooks had the same design for, please correct me if i'm wrong, but 4 or 5 years. so why were ppl looking for a case redesign a year and half later from release??? I think some ppl need to seriouslly get off the i'm new to apple cloud, but i will admit, i was there once thinking apple would make things that were in my dreams. oh...led screen... probably in the next revision in late spring, but not holding my breath. dedicated graphics in macbook, never. sorry but never. it will also get penryn in the late spring too. so dont hold your breath for next revision...led screen and penryn chip...big woopdee doo dah. i bet you'll all be like..."i'm not gona buy with all these rumors of nehalem right around the corner!" or however u spell the chips name. anyways..remember that apple needs to keep a GAP btwn pro and consumer. once you start realizing that and thinking logically, it will be easy to see what apple will include in the next revision.

Eidorian · Nov 6, 2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cohibadad

Why does it say Mac OS X 10.5 (Build 9A3110)?

The new MacBooks have a different build of Leopard.

Lollypop · Nov 6, 2007, 11:55 PM

Are there any "real world" benchmarks somewhere? I want to know how iTunes and iMovie will perform with the new hardware...

Codemonkey · Nov 7, 2007, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lollypop

Are there any "real world" benchmarks somewhere? I want to know how iTunes and iMovie will perform with the new hardware...

Uh - then the new MB's will perform great - just the same as the *old* MB's did with iTunes and most of iMovie's functionality.

Why do you want to be an early adopter/on the bleeding edge for apps that don't require the oomph?

Eidorian · Nov 7, 2007, 12:12 AM

I'm loving Dark Crusade and Joint Operations over in Windows.

rockinrocker · Nov 7, 2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AidenShaw

Sorry, but Santa Rosa is only a 36-bit chipset.

It's limited to 64 GiB max RAM.

(of course, for a laptop today, 36-bit is just as good as 64-bit

)

ok, so i just wanted to check, but if upgrade to one of these my 64 bit audio apps will be able to use all 4 gigs of ram, right?

Eidorian · Nov 7, 2007, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockinrocker

ok, so i just wanted to check, but if upgrade to one of these my 64 bit audio apps will be able to use all 4 gigs of ram, right?

That is correct.

Nov 6, 2007, 10:43 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Santa Rosa MacBook (November 2007) Benchmarks Primate Labs posted benchmark results comparing the new Santa Rosa MacBooks that were quietly updated last week to the Santa Rosa chipset along with the new GMA X3100 integrated video card. In terms of pure processor speed, the MacBook updates seemed negligible (2.0GHz -> 2.0GHz, 2.16GHz -> 2.2GHz), though the underlying bus speed was increased to 800MHz from 667MHz. The published benchmarks compared the 2.16GHz previous MacBook to the 2.2GHz new MacBook, and did significantly boost memory performance by 15% and stream performance by 25%, reflecting the increased bus speed. Integer, floating point, and overall performance, however, was only marginally improved. Graphics performance was not tested, but the GMA X3100 should also provide performance boosts over the previous integrated video card (GMA 950). Article Link

Nov 6, 2007, 10:45 PM	#2
queshy macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2005	Thought so...I'm looking forward to MWSF where we might see some new notebooks (and not just bumped up versions of the current ones!) __________________ "I always feel sorry for the guy in the iPhone commercials. He always gets a call right in the middle of trying to do something" (one1).

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Nov 6, 2007, 11:33 PM	#17
ntrigue macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jul 2007	Remember the disgruntled Macbook buyer that bought days before these were released? Someone should post this on his thread in the event he misses it.

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drewyboy macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2005	I dont expect to see new macbooks till..oh.. may or so, won't be suprised if updated a tad bit earliern. i will expect to see not a case redesign... can someone please tell me why they would? going all alumi is not a valid answer. the macbook is a redesign in itself which has only been around for ..coming up on two years i believe. take a look at what other products have been redesigned. iMac. That's it. Macbook pro stayed the same, Mac Pro's the same, iMac, basically the same just different casing. iBooks had the same design for, please correct me if i'm wrong, but 4 or 5 years. so why were ppl looking for a case redesign a year and half later from release??? I think some ppl need to seriouslly get off the i'm new to apple cloud, but i will admit, i was there once thinking apple would make things that were in my dreams. oh...led screen... probably in the next revision in late spring, but not holding my breath. dedicated graphics in macbook, never. sorry but never. it will also get penryn in the late spring too. so dont hold your breath for next revision...led screen and penryn chip...big woopdee doo dah. i bet you'll all be like..."i'm not gona buy with all these rumors of nehalem right around the corner!" or however u spell the chips name. anyways..remember that apple needs to keep a GAP btwn pro and consumer. once you start realizing that and thinking logically, it will be easy to see what apple will include in the next revision. __________________ iBook G4 1.33Ghz Macbook 1.8 Ghz - Wife's MacPro - hackintosh '09 Mac mini You will forever be remembered Multimedia

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