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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:22 AM   #1
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AT&T Now Providing Wifi Access at Starbucks

While not exclusively iPhone news by any means this report should be of interest to iPhone users. Evidently ATT is attempting to oust T-Mobile from the Starbucks wireless space according to this report on Gizmodo:

http://gizmodo.com/354961/att-bringi...rbucks-finally

It's good to finally see some wi-fi hotspot competition that directly benefits wireless users by lowering, or in this case eradicating, usage charges. It's also going to be of great benefit to wi-fi enabled internet devices like the iPhone and Touch.

[ed note: only "free" for certain customers: Starbucks card holders and AT&T broadband customers]

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:28 AM   #2
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Great news. More free internet the better. Especially for those of us around NYC where Starbucks is as ever present as air.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:32 AM   #3
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Yeah, totally. T-mobile's prices are not competitive. They charge $6.00 for an hour, whereas at an AT&T hotspot I paid $4.50 for two hours.

EDIT: Looks like now it's $3.99 for two hours. Even better.

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:36 AM   #4
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FWIW, T-Mobile users look unaffected:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...9_FORTUNE5.htm
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In addition, Starbucks, a Seattle coffee company, said T-Mobile customers will be able to use the Wi-Fi services at no additional costs through an agreement between AT&T and T-Mobile, a unit of Deutsche Telekom AG (DT).
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Great news. More free internet the better.
Agreed, although it's not going to be free for most folks. Looks like you'll have to have a Starbucks gift card, or subscribe to AT&T broadband at your house before you get to use it for free.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:43 AM   #5
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^^^ So is that true? My reason for getting T-Mobile Total Internet is for my iPhone as well as WiFi at Starbucks and Borders.

If Starbucks switches to AT&T and decides to not let T-Mobile users on, then looks like I'm cancelling my Edge service....
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:49 AM   #6
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AT&T Now Providing Wifi Access at Starbucks



Starbucks announced that they are partnering with AT&T to provide wireless access to their 7000 stores nationwide. Starbucks had previously partnered with T-Mobile to provide pay Wifi access at their stores.

The new service extends AT&T's free wireless to their AT&T broadband customers and also provides 2 hours of free wireless/day to Starbucks purchase card customers. Beyond this, AT&T offers service at $3.99 for a two-hour session, or $19.99 for monthly access.


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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:55 AM   #7
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sweet! i get this included with my broadband service through them then.

not that i go to starbucks very often, but knowing i won't have to pay for the internet there, i probably will be more inclined to when i need to get more focused.
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This is, or will be, great news for iPhone users.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:57 AM   #9
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my first thoughts-

theres only 7000 starbucks?
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Anyone want to bet me $20 that you'll be able to roll Starbucks access into your iPhone bill?
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:02 AM   #11
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"AT&T also is giving Starbucks' more than 100,000 U.S. employees free wireless accounts and said it will soon extend the Wi-Fi at Starbucks to its wireless phone customers. The company announced no details or time frame for the expansion."

Anyone have any more details on this? That seems EXTREMELY pricey. I'm thinking it's a typo or comes with some serious caveats.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:03 AM   #12
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my first thoughts-

theres only 7000 starbucks?
I thought that too. I'm pretty sure there are nearly that many in DC alone!
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:13 AM   #13
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Shame it doesn't work the same way as in the UK: there, all iPhone users get free wi-fi access in over 7500 locations via a deal with their carrier, O2. I see from the press release that that looks like a possible long-term plan for AT&T's iPhone users, but when?
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:13 AM   #14
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I don't know about anyone else, but I absolutely refuse to pay for internet access in public. I am currently living in Oklahoma, and even out here, there are tons of places I can go that offer free wireless internet.

Paid internet access is dead in my opinion. Its just too much of a hassle.
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The new service extends AT&T's free wireless to their AT&T broadband customers and also provides 2 hours of free wireless/day to Starbucks purchase card customers.
So what's a "Starbucks purchase card"? And if you have to buy it, how is this "free wireless"?
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"AT&T also is giving Starbucks' more than 100,000 U.S. employees free wireless accounts and said it will soon extend the Wi-Fi at Starbucks to its wireless phone customers. The company announced no details or time frame for the expansion."

Anyone have any more details on this? That seems EXTREMELY pricey. I'm thinking it's a typo or comes with some serious caveats.
What's pricey? Giving employees free access to the wifi network at their job? Should I start paying for internet where I work too? ROFL. No thanks Starbucks or ATT. I'll keep going to local cafes that have free wireless for their customers.
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So what's a "Starbucks purchase card"? And if you have to buy it, how is this "free wireless"?
I think they're talking about that Starbucks VISA card...
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I don't know about anyone else, but I absolutely refuse to pay for internet access in public. I am currently living in Oklahoma, and even out here, there are tons of places I can go that offer free wireless internet.

Paid internet access is dead in my opinion. Its just too much of a hassle.
I wish paid access was dead but as long as there are airports using T-Mobile it will live on. Talk about a monopoly. I'd bet if the starbucks in the airport offered free wi-fi people would just sit there drinking coffee and eating their food the entire time they had to wait. Actually, that's a brilliant idea!! I know starbucks employee's probably don't read this site but you need to take that to your manager or something - those airport starbucks would make a TON of money.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:20 AM   #19
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Do iPod Touch users currently get free access at AT&T hotspots? I assume it's only iPhone customers?

(Unless you are an AT&T broadband customer at home--I know hotspots are free then.)
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:22 AM   #20
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It seems it would make more sense to give free Wi-Fi to iPhone customers than to broadband customers. It'd help promote iPhone sales and ATT makes $60 per month on those sales and only about $10-$30 for home broadband.
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It seems it would make more sense to give free Wi-Fi to iPhone customers than to broadband customers. It'd help promote iPhone sales and ATT makes $60 per month on those sales and only about $10-$30 for home broadband.
It seems like AT&T is offering it free to BOTH groups--and to those who buy coffee. (Even my local non-chain coffee places want you to buy something and not just mooch the WiFi and take up space.)

I don't know what AT&T's actual profit margins are on DSL vs. mobile phones, but both are big markets for them.

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So what's a "Starbucks purchase card"? And if you have to buy it, how is this "free wireless"?
The purchase in question would be coffee

Currently, with T-Mobile, you buy your coffee AND pay $6 per hour ($6 minimum) for WiFi
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:24 AM   #22
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I couldn't agree more. I don't understand why Starbucks is such a dinosaur in this arena. I don't go to Starbucks because their coffee is horrible, so it doesn't really affect me a whole lot, but it's just weird that they charge for wifi. They're the only ones that I know of in these parts (Columbus, OH) that do.

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Paid internet access is dead in my opinion. Its just too much of a hassle.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:27 AM   #23
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Do iPod Touch users currently get free access at AT&T hotspots? I assume it's only iPhone customers?

(Unless you are an AT&T broadband customer at home--I know hotspots are free then.)
since the iPod touch is not service based in any way - I think its users will always have to pay for access.

iPhone users do not CURRENTLY get free access...

from the thread:
"Of interest, AT&T stated that it "will soon extend the benefits of Wi-Fi at Starbucks to its wireless customers"."
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iPhone users do not CURRENTLY get free access...
Not at Starbucks, but I was asking about current AT&T hotspots. Free for iPhones at present?
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:38 AM   #25
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2 hours is enough for me! There's only so much "starbucks culture" I can take.
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