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Q: 8gb Mbp ?

No one ever seems happy with apple these days. why no 8gig of ram? why no blue ray?why why why why why.. get over it.sorry but im sick of people always asking. let me ask some questions.how are we to know? do we work for apple? do we know what goes through steves head? lol i find all these posts so funny.
 
The new Penryn based MBP's use the same Santa Rosa chipset boards as the previous gen so if one supported 8 gigs of RAM they both would. I'm not seeing where the new Precision M6300 is touting support for up to 8 gigs of RAM though. On the link to the page there it says supports up to 4 gigs.
 
The reason is, so far Apple have unambiguously stated that the maximum number and density of chips supported on a SODIMM module is 16 x 1024 Mbit devices, and those Micron 4 GB SODIMMs are built with 8 x 4096 Mbit devices.

If the memory controller on the Mac can't count up past 1024 on an individual chip, then it can't address the extra space.

Might Apple revise that spec with 'hidden' capabilities on the motherboard? Maybe. But for now the 'reason' is that.
 
neski said:
No one ever seems happy with apple these days. why no 8gig of ram? why no blue ray?why why why why why.. get over it.sorry but im sick of people always asking. let me ask some questions.how are we to know? do we work for apple? do we know what goes through steves head? lol i find all these posts so funny.
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Appreciate your candor. The kind of answer I was after was the one offered by a subsequent poster regarding the limitation imposed by the memory controller.

Adam
 
CanadaRAM said:
The reason is, so far Apple have unambiguously stated that the maximum number and density of chips supported on a SODIMM module is 16 x 1024 Mbit devices, and those Micron 4 GB SODIMMs are built with 8 x 4096 Mbit devices.

If the memory controller on the Mac can't count up past 1024 on an individual chip, then it can't address the extra space.

Might Apple revise that spec with 'hidden' capabilities on the motherboard? Maybe. But for now the 'reason' is that.
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate your feedback on this.
Adam
 
burningrave101 said:
The new Penryn based MBP's use the same Santa Rosa chipset boards as the previous gen so if one supported 8 gigs of RAM they both would. I'm not seeing where the new Precision M6300 is touting support for up to 8 gigs of RAM though. On the link to the page there it says supports up to 4 gigs.
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You're right, wrong link
http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/precn_m?~ck=anav&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04

So it will support 8GB RAM, which is nice. Not seen another laptop which will do it.

Adam
 
I'm with the OP on this. I think it would be great to throw as much RAM in the MBP as it can use. Why not 8GB? The only reason I see is CanadaRAM's which is just the way the hardware is right now. The more RAM your machine can handle the more it would help to "future-proof" it a bit.
 
I don't even think I can use the 2GB I have. Therefore, WTF would I need 8GB for? Processor speed, bus speed, network connections, and hard drive speed are all more of a bottleneck than memory capacity. I know more memory won't speed up HandBrake, which is the app I use that is most reliant on strong guts. It takes up almost all the CPU, so I'm sure I could use some of that 8-core power in a Mac Pro. Rip the entire Friends DVD collection in like 8 minutes. :)
 
kashik said:
Do you need a current laptop with 8GB of RAM?
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Not all the time, only when I fire up another 2 VMs when I'm on a plane and HELLO! they both want 1GB RAM each...

I regularly use 4GB RAM - 2-3 VMs plus a couple of Developer tools plus an Office suite regularly consumes it all (plus more)

The day I don't write to swap is the day I become productive!

Adam
 
Pukey said:
I'm with the OP on this. I think it would be great to throw as much RAM in the MBP as it can use. Why not 8GB? The only reason I see is CanadaRAM's which is just the way the hardware is right now. The more RAM your machine can handle the more it would help to "future-proof" it a bit.
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Why not 8gb indeed! What possible harm is there in asking if it's possible and maybe trying it for yourself? Man, some of you people act like it's some kind of personal affront to your manhood or something. I have two computers that have double what the spec says is the max and, being a multi-platform dev who looks a couple of years down the road, I wouldn't mind 8gb in my mbp either. Bottom line: Why does any man do anything? BECAUSE HE CAN.
 
As i have said before, the only way we will find out is trying! Someone like OWC must ba able to try!
 
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