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cleo
macrumors 65816
zeal·ot
n.
1. a. One who is zealous, especially excessively so.
b. A fanatically committed person.
2. Zealot A member of a Jewish movement of the first century A.D. that fought against Roman rule in Palestine as incompatible with strict monotheism.
(edit: the above is from dictionary.com)
I'm not sure of the exact origins of the anti-zealot campaign (I think spikey was involved)... but as I understand it, the anti-zealots are in theory against people who are so fanatically pro-Mac that they are blind to both the limitations of the Mac platform and the advantages of other OS's.
They like to throw pies, too.
😀
n.
1. a. One who is zealous, especially excessively so.
b. A fanatically committed person.
2. Zealot A member of a Jewish movement of the first century A.D. that fought against Roman rule in Palestine as incompatible with strict monotheism.
(edit: the above is from dictionary.com)
I'm not sure of the exact origins of the anti-zealot campaign (I think spikey was involved)... but as I understand it, the anti-zealots are in theory against people who are so fanatically pro-Mac that they are blind to both the limitations of the Mac platform and the advantages of other OS's.
They like to throw pies, too.
😀
SPG
macrumors 65816
There is a rather long thread in the general forum about it, but it doesn't ever say much more than what was said above.
Even though you haven't asked, the Pro Zealot Campaign is a shadow organization that promotes the belief that the Mac is a better platform and that more people should use it and increase Apple's market share so that Apple can develop more cool s**t.
The anti zealot campaign seems to be just a big old bandwagon with nowhere to go, so hop on everyone and tell your friends!
Even though you haven't asked, the Pro Zealot Campaign is a shadow organization that promotes the belief that the Mac is a better platform and that more people should use it and increase Apple's market share so that Apple can develop more cool s**t.
The anti zealot campaign seems to be just a big old bandwagon with nowhere to go, so hop on everyone and tell your friends!
eyelikeart
Moderator emeritus
Mr. Anderson
Moderator emeritus
Oh, you're asking for a forum war here! Wait till mischief, jefhatfield and alphaTech see this. Should be fun.
I'm not on anyone's side myself, but if I didn't have my own cause, I'd probably be a anti-zealot. I am definitely against closemindedness.
Mr. Anderson
Moderator emeritus
Oooh, now that's hitting hard!😉
Where are the anti-zealots? Did they get scared away? I was hoping for something to happen by now, but I guess I'll go out to dinner and the bars and come home and find the battle arleady fought. I hate when that happens.😡
eyelikeart
Moderator emeritus
As a user with real world experience I have to say that Unix and Linux have their own strong points that can beat a mac. I hate windows but even it has some credibility (not much though). I hope you're not considering pursuing a career in the computer industry as refusing to use other platforms will hurt your career. I use the Mac because of it's ease of use and excellence in graphics applications. If I wanted a massive network I would use Linux. If I really wanted the latest games I would go Windows. It's all a lifestyle choice to me.
--edit: I just saw your note about times SPG, sorry about that. I skimmed over that part.
SPG
macrumors 65816
Okay, here's the real deal. I honestly don't care too much which platform people use. There are plenty of reasons to use PC's, Linux, Unix, or a Unicorn covered pink notepad with a glittery pen. I like macs and I think that most other posters here like 'em too. This whole "Anti-Zealot Campaign" has turned into a witch hunt without any witches, so I thought it might be entertaining to play devils advocate and defend the Mac...wait that's a little silly saying that I have to stand up to defend the Mac against the macrumors regulars. Anyway use what you like, and call yourself what you like. I will continue to call myself Pro-Zealot unless someone out there can convince me otherwise.
Thank you and good day.
Thank you and good day.
jefhatfield
Retired
..to promote macs with facts, not steve jobs'-like myths
spikey started it and i was the first member
let us promote macs with the good points of a mac...that's all the movement simply is
spikey started it and i was the first member
let us promote macs with the good points of a mac...that's all the movement simply is
mischief
macrumors 68030
It's kind of evolved.
I, for one see it as not just being about Mac/M$ Zealots but about anyone who acts on Dogma instead of experience/research. One always has to be willing to say: "Whoops! I guess I was full of **** on that one."
This includes those who just nod their head and go along with genocide against Muslims because some Saudi mamma's boy got one good shot in. Violence won't solve the 2 major underlying problems: Poverty and Ignorance.
I am the Rogue Assasin because I am willing to voice politically incorrect views and try to speak the truth when the bull**** gets deep enough to need a boat.
I agree, SPG that Mac OS X is the bomb but we must keep THINKING.
Think Different: Ask questions...........it really p*sses off those in power.😀 😉
I, for one see it as not just being about Mac/M$ Zealots but about anyone who acts on Dogma instead of experience/research. One always has to be willing to say: "Whoops! I guess I was full of **** on that one."
This includes those who just nod their head and go along with genocide against Muslims because some Saudi mamma's boy got one good shot in. Violence won't solve the 2 major underlying problems: Poverty and Ignorance.
I am the Rogue Assasin because I am willing to voice politically incorrect views and try to speak the truth when the bull**** gets deep enough to need a boat.
I agree, SPG that Mac OS X is the bomb but we must keep THINKING.
Think Different: Ask questions...........it really p*sses off those in power.😀 😉
eyelikeart
Moderator emeritus
just keep your mind open and realize that not everyone is going to want/necessarily need a Mac...
how hard is that? 😱 🙄
how hard is that? 😱 🙄
SPG
macrumors 65816
Eye, eye, eye...Let me state again: The Pro Zealot Movement is a joke. My mind is wide open, but I haven't seen anything out there that has convinced me that the Mac isn't the right choice for me. PC's are okay if they do what you want them to do. They don't for me and Macs always have so I like 'em and will continue to support them. I also think that more people would benefit from using Macs, but I'm not going to call them names
The Anti Zealot Campaign? Okay, I honestly thought that one was a joke too. But it seems to have turned from a good idea by the late Spikey into a club of posters who want to belong to something that sounds cool. And if we did get rid of the zealots then who would be left to run those multi page flame wars?
The Anti Zealot Campaign? Okay, I honestly thought that one was a joke too. But it seems to have turned from a good idea by the late Spikey into a club of posters who want to belong to something that sounds cool. And if we did get rid of the zealots then who would be left to run those multi page flame wars?
eyelikeart
Moderator emeritus
he he he...I wasn't directing that at u my friend...simply stating it for the ones who do not understand... 😉
I joined because I am an open-minded person who tries as best as possible to see both sides...although I'm often accused of seeing only "one side" when in a confrontation with my girlfriend...
don't worry about the flame wars...that's why we have AlphaTech! 😀 😉 😱
Moxiemike
macrumors 68020
But tell me.... really tell me....
What real good is Windows?
Sure, i'd use linux to build a network. I'd get a PS2 to play games. I wouldn't ever buy a windows computer and really, unless you have some special need to use it, there's no reason to NOT go mac. My dad uses autocad and has continually become more and more frustrated with the OS and how it works.
He buys a 40 gb firewire drive and spends two days trying to get it installed in a Win ME box. I plugged it into my mac for demo and it popped right up on the screen.
He serious was considering ditching ACAD, the PC and all of his hardware for vectorworks and a g4.....
Simply stated, apple's "Everything is Easier on a Mac" is pretty right on. I used windows for many years b4 switching to Mac for design.... and it is MUCH easier. Everything.
Example two: there are a bunch of coffeehouses here with 802.11b networks setup. PC users flock over to my ti and watch me surf and ask how to do it. I tell them what they need and it seems like it takes them (and sometimes me) forever to get them up and running. It's just that Windows is in no way a consumer bred OS and why people still put up with that garbage is beyond me.
Everyone says that if apple gets more market they won't innovate. Bull. If they get more market, profits rise, and I think they innovate EVEN MORE. They have more money to sink into an already exorbitant (its gotta be!) R&D department
Just my .02
What real good is Windows?
Sure, i'd use linux to build a network. I'd get a PS2 to play games. I wouldn't ever buy a windows computer and really, unless you have some special need to use it, there's no reason to NOT go mac. My dad uses autocad and has continually become more and more frustrated with the OS and how it works.
He buys a 40 gb firewire drive and spends two days trying to get it installed in a Win ME box. I plugged it into my mac for demo and it popped right up on the screen.
He serious was considering ditching ACAD, the PC and all of his hardware for vectorworks and a g4.....
Simply stated, apple's "Everything is Easier on a Mac" is pretty right on. I used windows for many years b4 switching to Mac for design.... and it is MUCH easier. Everything.
Example two: there are a bunch of coffeehouses here with 802.11b networks setup. PC users flock over to my ti and watch me surf and ask how to do it. I tell them what they need and it seems like it takes them (and sometimes me) forever to get them up and running. It's just that Windows is in no way a consumer bred OS and why people still put up with that garbage is beyond me.
Everyone says that if apple gets more market they won't innovate. Bull. If they get more market, profits rise, and I think they innovate EVEN MORE. They have more money to sink into an already exorbitant (its gotta be!) R&D department
Just my .02