Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac Released

MacRumors · 09:03 AM

Apple released a new Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac today. The new model introduces a second dual G5 configuration to the PowerMac line.

The new PowerMac offers Dual 1.8GHz G5, 900MHz Frontside Bus, 512MB DDR400 SDRAM, Superdrive, and NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra.

The new PowerMac G5 product line:

Single 1.6GHz PowerMac - $1799 (from $1999)
Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac - $2499 (new)
Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac - $2999 (Unchanged)

The Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac G5 was first rumored in July. The new dual model was rumored to shift some demand from the popular 2.0GHz processors.

gwuMACaddict · Nov 18, 2003, 08:38 AM

this is going to make it hard not to get one for christmas...

Badtz Maru · Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM

Damn, and that 20" monster iMac too!

Sabenth · Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM

how the hell do you do it arn how the hell do you do it great news though

temptatino · Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM

sweet! the g5's are really moving into a nice price point..

Squire · Nov 18, 2003, 08:41 AM

That would be my choice of PowerMacs now. It's the best value in my opinion. (So there isn't a single 1.8 GHz anymore. Hmmm.)

Now if they only lower the prices on the LCDs, I'll be ready to make the leap to the "Pro" line.
Squire

mj_1903 · Nov 18, 2003, 08:42 AM

Interesting move. Comparing the features, the Dual 2.0 comes out quite badly in the value for money department. I wonder how that will affect sales of the high end model?

Dont Hurt Me · Nov 18, 2003, 08:44 AM

anyone bother to read the link?

Belly-laughs · Nov 18, 2003, 08:45 AM

The dual 2,0 is ready for an upgrade as it no longer has clear advantages over the next in line.

Any time now. Any time!

Kamu-San · Nov 18, 2003, 08:46 AM

Erh, Apple site says just the 15" and 17" iMacs and single 1.8GHz G5...

DTphonehome · Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM

It's in the Store:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...amily=PowerMac

arn · Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM

see the press releases linked from the main articles. Apple's site is still updating.

arn

Sun Baked · Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM

Hmmm...

Any changes on the single 1.6 G5, or are people going actually going to have a shot back at $200 from the Apple Store this time on VERY recently shipped units?

Sol · Nov 18, 2003, 08:51 AM

This is what the Powermac line-up should have been from day one. The new configuration will likely be the most popular model. It is such good value for the performance it offers.

Kamu-San · Nov 18, 2003, 08:51 AM

Thanks Arn!

De Dual 1.8 GHz sounds really nice, too bad I just bought a 15.2" PB. Not that the dual would be a good replacement, but I can't spend my money twice...

wizard · Nov 18, 2003, 08:57 AM

Can one say 2.5GHz by January for the top end?

While some seem to think that this is to take pressure off the top end I don't believe it. First there isn't a great deal of differrence in performance for single threaded applications with the old configurations. Second I can't really believe that the 2GHz 970 is that hard to come buy that they need to take presure off the top of the line model. Nope, in my opinion they are getting ready for a faster top of the line model, which will put the 2X 1.8 GHZ SMP machine squarely in the middle.

Now clearly it is open to speculation as to how fast this new machine is to run. It does seem like apple will need to hit 2.5 GHz or better in the January time frame to keep pace with there public commitments of 3GHz in a year.

Thanks
Dave

Quote:

Originally posted by Belly-laughs
The dual 2,0 is ready for an upgrade as it no longer has clear advantages over the next in line.

Any time now. Any time!

wymer100 · Nov 18, 2003, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sol
This is what the Powermac line-up should have been from day one. The new configuration will likely be the most popular model. It is such good value for the performance it offers.

That's probably why Apple waited until now. Had Apple released these models, the dual 1.8 probably would have been the most popular model. By waiting, the dual 2.0 was the best seller. Apple was able to squeeze an extra couple of hundred dollars out of the early adopters.

I'm surprised the single 1.8 wasn't at least a BTO option on the lowend model. There's a pretty big jump in price from low to midrange products. Offer an upgrade for an extra $300 and make most of that in profit. Plus, those sales have to go through the online store, which we know Apple likes.

JoE950 · Nov 18, 2003, 09:03 AM

they didnt support 8 Gigs of memory before did they??? good lord!!!!

arn · Nov 18, 2003, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoE950
they didnt support 8 Gigs of memory before did they??? good lord!!!!

they did.

arn

neeotronik · Nov 18, 2003, 09:12 AM

I don't think this was done to curb the demand for the dual 2ghz g5's. Is there a demand?!?

It was inevitable; before the mac g5 surfaced; the G4 line was exactly the same;
Lower end model was single processor (with option to build you could have added a second processor) and the mid and high end models were dual processor.

Good move on apple's part; not great!
Wizard (dave) nailed it: First there isn't a great deal of differrence in performance for single threaded applications with the old configurations.

All that apple has done is optimize their killer apps.
Don't get me wrong; The G5 is a great computer but I dont see a need right now for 64 bit pci-x computing.

I will admit that if the dual 1.8 was priced at 1999 I would get one hands down. That's 499 cheaper than what it's priced at and 299 cheaper for the educational discount.
That'll never happen though. Until then enjoy the optimized apps and raw power that can't be fully utilized just yet.

ipiloot · Nov 18, 2003, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sol
This is what the Powermac line-up should have been from day one. The new configuration will likely be the most popular model. It is such good value for the performance it offers.

Not quite. As I understood Apple's strategy they had 1.8DP ready for day one, but did wait with the launch as long as the top model sold as fast as the can make them.
Only after the demant started to drop they introduced a new sweet spot. Apple collected a lot of dollars with 2.0 model. I think that we'll see 2.2 or 2.5 introduced very soon and 1.6 model dropped so that entire line will stay DP.

mj_1903 · Nov 18, 2003, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neeotronik
I don't think this was done to curb the demand for the dual 2ghz g5's. Is there a demand?!

The Dual 2.0 is selling extraidonarily well. I heard from internal sources that they expected it to sell half the number of units in the first 3 months that it eventually did.

Dont Hurt Me · Nov 18, 2003, 09:21 AM

nice addition to the powermac line, perhaps setting the pace to all dual configs for the pro's? perhaps early next year they will have dual 1.8 2.0 and 2.5? they need this so they can do a consumer line with single g5's in em. that 1.25 g4 imac is a dog right now. how many years of moto stagnation will apple keep partaking in? a 1.25 g4 would be good for emac but not imac and what they charge. the pro tower line is shaping up and getting better all the time.

Wonder Boy · Nov 18, 2003, 09:26 AM

there should have been dual 1.8 g5s to begin with.

happo · Nov 18, 2003, 09:37 AM

My order for PowerMac single 1.8GHz was updated to DUAL 1.8GHz. The price remained the same.

Now, I'm actually happy they kept postponing my order.

-happo

Nov 18, 2003, 08:37 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac Released Apple released a new Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac today. The new model introduces a second dual G5 configuration to the PowerMac line. The new PowerMac offers Dual 1.8GHz G5, 900MHz Frontside Bus, 512MB DDR400 SDRAM, Superdrive, and NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra. The new PowerMac G5 product line: Single 1.6GHz PowerMac - $1799 (from $1999) Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac - $2499 (new) Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac - $2999 (Unchanged) The Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac G5 was first rumored in July. The new dual model was rumored to shift some demand from the popular 2.0GHz processors. Last edited by arn : Nov 18, 2003 at 09:03 AM.

Nov 18, 2003, 08:38 AM	#2
gwuMACaddict macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: washington dc	this is going to make it hard not to get one for christmas... __________________ *"if everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking"*

Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM	#4
Sabenth macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK	how the hell do you do it arn how the hell do you do it great news though __________________ http://www.icompositions.com/artists/Lapskin/ Yep i am lapskin

Nov 18, 2003, 08:41 AM	#6
Squire macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada	That would be my choice of PowerMacs now. It's the best value in my opinion. (So there isn't a single 1.8 GHz anymore. Hmmm.) Now if they only lower the prices on the LCDs, I'll be ready to make the leap to the "Pro" line. Squire __________________ "Society often forgives the criminal; it never forgives the dreamer." - Oscar Wilde

Nov 18, 2003, 08:44 AM	#8
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	anyone bother to read the link? __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.

Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM	#3
Badtz Maru macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003	Damn, and that 20" monster iMac too!

Nov 18, 2003, 08:40 AM	#5
temptatino macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: tck - lived in beijing, now in the states	sweet! the g5's are really moving into a nice price point..

Nov 18, 2003, 08:42 AM	#7
mj_1903 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Interesting move. Comparing the features, the Dual 2.0 comes out quite badly in the value for money department. I wonder how that will affect sales of the high end model?

Nov 18, 2003, 08:45 AM	#9
Belly-laughs macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003	The dual 2,0 is ready for an upgrade as it no longer has clear advantages over the next in line. Any time now. Any time!

Nov 18, 2003, 08:46 AM	#10
Kamu-San macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands	Erh, Apple site says just the 15" and 17" iMacs and single 1.8GHz G5...

Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM	#11
DTphonehome macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC	Store has them It's in the Store: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...amily=PowerMac

Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM	#12
arn macrumors god Join Date: Apr 2001	see the press releases linked from the main articles. Apple's site is still updating. arn

Nov 18, 2003, 08:48 AM	#13
Sun Baked macrumors 603 Join Date: May 2002	Hmmm... Any changes on the single 1.6 G5, or are people going actually going to have a shot back at $200 from the Apple Store this time on VERY recently shipped units? __________________ May you be plagued by images of Richard Simmons flouncing through you brain, and squat thrusting his way though all waking thoughts.

Nov 18, 2003, 08:51 AM	#14
Sol macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia	This is what the Powermac line-up should have been from day one. The new configuration will likely be the most popular model. It is such good value for the performance it offers. __________________ DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER

Nov 18, 2003, 09:03 AM	#18
JoE950 macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ohio	they didnt support 8 Gigs of memory before did they??? good lord!!!! __________________ JoE950

Nov 18, 2003, 09:12 AM	#20
neeotronik macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2003	I don't think this was done to curb the demand for the dual 2ghz g5's. Is there a demand?!? It was inevitable; before the mac g5 surfaced; the G4 line was exactly the same; Lower end model was single processor (with option to build you could have added a second processor) and the mid and high end models were dual processor. Good move on apple's part; not great! Wizard (dave) nailed it: First there isn't a great deal of differrence in performance for single threaded applications with the old configurations. All that apple has done is optimize their killer apps. Don't get me wrong; The G5 is a great computer but I dont see a need right now for 64 bit pci-x computing. I will admit that if the dual 1.8 was priced at 1999 I would get one hands down. That's 499 cheaper than what it's priced at and 299 cheaper for the educational discount. That'll never happen though. Until then enjoy the optimized apps and raw power that can't be fully utilized just yet. __________________ Neo: Why am I here? Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.

Nov 18, 2003, 09:21 AM	#23
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	nice addition to the powermac line, perhaps setting the pace to all dual configs for the pro's? perhaps early next year they will have dual 1.8 2.0 and 2.5? they need this so they can do a consumer line with single g5's in em. that 1.25 g4 imac is a dog right now. how many years of moto stagnation will apple keep partaking in? a 1.25 g4 would be good for emac but not imac and what they charge. the pro tower line is shaping up and getting better all the time. __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.

Nov 18, 2003, 09:26 AM	#24
Wonder Boy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Windsor, CT	there should have been dual 1.8 g5s to begin with. __________________ girls are pretty.

Nov 18, 2003, 09:37 AM	#25
happo macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland	My order for PowerMac single 1.8GHz was updated to DUAL 1.8GHz. The price remained the same. Now, I'm actually happy they kept postponing my order. -happo

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