iTunes Australia - Q1 2004?

MacRumors · 02:18 PM

News.com.au reports that Microsoft's Ninemsn music service will reach Australia early next year.

Of more interest, an Australian version of Apple's iTunes is also expected in the first quarter of 2004 according to the article.

According to sources, Apple plans on extending the iTunes Music Store "to a number of markets beyond the US" in the same time period.

Apple has publicly committed to Japanese and European Music Stores in 2004. Apple has also been reported to be in negotiations with Canadian music agencies as early as October of this year.

yoman · Dec 2, 2003, 01:18 PM

yeah

Major battle of the giants Apple vs. Microsoft again. Desktop wars moves to Music Store wars

Phobophobia · Dec 2, 2003, 01:18 PM

Good news for Austrailians--Apple is finally caring about other countries.

CompUSAMacNerd · Dec 2, 2003, 01:20 PM

I think I got the first comment. I hope

GO AUSSIE iTUNES!

~Shard~ · Dec 2, 2003, 01:25 PM

It's about time! Apple needs to continue to expand like this if it wants to stay competitive with the whole online music store industry, so this is great news for lots of people around the world!.

TomSmithMacEd · Dec 2, 2003, 01:25 PM

Nice, bring iTMS all over! Make it number one. (Just like I'm number one on this forum.) he he

~Shard~ · Dec 2, 2003, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CompUSAMacNerd
I think I got the first comment. I hope

Gotta be quicker than that....

the_mole1314 · Dec 2, 2003, 01:27 PM

Thank god this is happening. Now we can get rid of those 'Apple's Crap since they don't have iTMS in *insert country*'.

Wonder Boy · Dec 2, 2003, 01:27 PM

apple has to beat microsoft to it. end of story.

hvfsl · Dec 2, 2003, 01:30 PM

Has iTunes even come to Canada yet?

Sonofhaig · Dec 2, 2003, 01:31 PM

Glad they're getting things going...

yoman · Dec 2, 2003, 01:34 PM

Quote from article

"Nevertheless, the choice of the Windows Media format and the lack of user-friendly players were among the reasons it was "highly unlikely" that Ninemsn's service would make money, Mr Tripp said."

I like

COS · Dec 2, 2003, 01:34 PM

"the choice of the Windows Media format and the lack of user-friendly players were among the reasons it was "highly unlikely" that Ninemsn's service would make money."

The choice of Windows Media Format certinly is a contributing factor... but the reason they wont make money is because THESE SERVICES CAN'T MAKE MONEY. Apple themselves -- the leader in this industry -- has said as much.

Its a loss leader!

It makes me wonder if Microsoft is funding the various music download efforts... and Microsoft is taking the loss to fuel WMA growth.

winmacguy · Dec 2, 2003, 01:35 PM

Geez I hope so, I must admit the Australian Apple rep did say that some big things were on the way with Apple. I just hope it means we will be able to get iTUNES in NZ as well!!!
On another note I was just reading some of the comments on the MacNN site regarding the European Apple store and their recent poor delivery service as reported in recent servey. For Apple's sake I really hope that Apple is doing a lot to rectify the situation especially in the run up to Christmas. I understand that the service issue occured at the time that a new system had been installed but for the length of time that Aple has been in business AND the length of time that most people have been doing online shopping I would have thought that Apple would have had a sufficient amount of POLITE, INFORMED, HELPFUL, TRAINED operators to take the calls. In retailling it is hard enough to get new customers but even harder to get them back after you have lost them or pissed them off with bad service.
well Merry Christmas to all and here's to iTUNES in this part of the world!!!

~Shard~ · Dec 2, 2003, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hvfsl
Has iTunes even come to Canada yet?

Nope. I'm still waiting patiently....

AmigoMac · Dec 2, 2003, 01:47 PM

I guess it's much easier to handle Australian music laws, really nice for the Aussie community... congratulations..

appleguy · Dec 2, 2003, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by winmacguy
Geez I hope so, I must admit the Australian Apple rep did say that some big things were on the way with Apple. I just hope it means we will be able to get iTUNES in NZ as well!!!

Well in Apple's eyes I think New Zealand is considered to be a state of that big lump of dirt some people call Australia....

winmacguy · Dec 2, 2003, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by appleguy
Well in Apple's eyes I think New Zealand is considered to be a state of that big lump of dirt some people call Australia....

More than Likely although some of it comes down to Local Apple Authourised Re-seller/Distribution Agent who effectively sell on Behalf of Apple and who at dont seem to be to concered at large scale marketing ...or at least that is the impression I get. The only other problem we have is a legal/political one which is nothing to do with Apple. And that is the fact that it is Illegal to down load and or copy music in NZ. Apparently we have the tightest laws in the world with regards to copying music which probably chucks the proverbial spanner in the works for negoiating music down loading agreements...

then again, it is illegal to drive faster than 100kph on the open road in this country as well, but lots of us drive cars that go faster than that.... just dont get caught.

I think in most American's eyes we are somewhere in Australia... unless they have been down here. Mind you some American's concepts of world geography can leave a bit to be desired.
But her is hoping that we in Middle Earth get a crack at iTUNES very soon.

bluedalmatian · Dec 2, 2003, 02:29 PM

still think they're wrong to treat europe as one. they'd be able to expand far quicker if they took each country individually as and when possible,

johnnyjibbs · Dec 2, 2003, 02:50 PM

Yeah, they could take Europe quicker if they did each country separately. I could see it coming to the UK earlier...

But certain poor countries in Europe probably would never get it...

Trowaman · Dec 2, 2003, 02:50 PM

Australia, Japan, and Europe are now pretty much locked in for early next year. Canada, once you guys come online I guess we're set on the main markets. How long until ITMS Nigeria?

But no, I look forward to you guys joining us and to see if your countries will contribute music to the music store creating an international store providing music from every culture.

Welcome to the family.

adamberti · Dec 2, 2003, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trowaman
Australia, Japan, and Europe are now pretty much locked in for early next year. Canada, once you guys come online I guess we're set on the main markets. How long until ITMS Nigeria?

But no, I look forward to you guys joining us and to see if your countries will contribute music to the music store creating an international store providing music from every culture.

Welcome to the family.

Yes, it would be an awsome way to get international music without paying $40 for import CD's. There's a Kiwi band, Samonella Dub, that I really enjoy, but it's just prohibitively expensive to buy their CD's in Canada.

Sayhey · Dec 2, 2003, 03:13 PM

All of this raises questions about the ability of the iTMS to sell music across borders. If Apple has negotiated the rights to sell in Japan with companies there, do they have the right to sell those tracks to the US market and vice versa? This could be the start of making music much more accessible the world over. Unfortuately, I think the Big 5 music companies will resist selling worldwide distribution rights. I hope I'm wrong.

rodnarms · Dec 2, 2003, 03:15 PM

I sense that Apple is going to expand the iTunes market at Macworld in January. No better time.

billyboy · Dec 2, 2003, 03:21 PM

Seeing as music from iTMS is only available in the US it seems a bit bizarre to think that Japans store will be open to US buyers.

It would be a coup to rejig the whole music industry licensing issue, but I dont even see lord Jobs being able to pull that one off.

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Dec 2, 2003, 01:18 PM	#2
yoman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the Bowels of the Cosmos	iTunes is spreading yeah Major battle of the giants Apple vs. Microsoft again. Desktop wars moves to Music Store wars __________________ My first computer was an Apple IIGS at the meager age of 6 1/2 years. I was raised with an APPLE and I will die with an APPLE.

Dec 2, 2003, 01:18 PM	#3
Phobophobia macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2003	Good news for Austrailians--Apple is finally caring about other countries. __________________ "how do you win $ 1.6 M at a quarter slot? that's 6.4 millions coins shooting out of the slot. they could have killed her!!!" -- Don't Panic

Dec 2, 2003, 01:25 PM	#5
~Shard~ macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 1123.6536.5321	It's about time! Apple needs to continue to expand like this if it wants to stay competitive with the whole online music store industry, so this is great news for lots of people around the world!. __________________ My riches consist not in the extent of my possessions, but in the fewness of my wants. - J. Brotherton

Dec 2, 2003, 01:25 PM	#6
TomSmithMacEd macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fargo, ND	Nice, bring iTMS all over! Make it number one. (Just like I'm number one on this forum.) he he __________________ Erik Myxter Erik.Myxter@sendit.nodak.edu aim: thinlayorofpole http://www.xanga.com/erikmyxter Looking for a powerbook.

Dec 2, 2003, 01:20 PM	#4
CompUSAMacNerd macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2003	I think I got the first comment. I hope GO AUSSIE iTUNES!

Dec 2, 2003, 01:27 PM	#8
the_mole1314 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dayton, OH	Thank god this is happening. Now we can get rid of those 'Apple's Crap since they don't have iTMS in insert country'. __________________ 13" MacBook Pro 2.53GHz (base model) iPod touch, nano, shuffle, iPod 3gen

Dec 2, 2003, 01:27 PM	#9
Wonder Boy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Windsor, CT	apple has to beat microsoft to it. end of story. __________________ girls are pretty.

Dec 2, 2003, 01:30 PM	#10
hvfsl macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London, UK	Has iTunes even come to Canada yet?

Dec 2, 2003, 01:31 PM	#11
Sonofhaig macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Greenvale, NY	Glad they're getting things going... __________________

Dec 2, 2003, 01:34 PM	#12
yoman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the Bowels of the Cosmos	Quote from article "Nevertheless, the choice of the Windows Media format and the lack of user-friendly players were among the reasons it was "highly unlikely" that Ninemsn's service would make money, Mr Tripp said." I like __________________ My first computer was an Apple IIGS at the meager age of 6 1/2 years. I was raised with an APPLE and I will die with an APPLE.

Dec 2, 2003, 01:34 PM	#13
COS macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003	THESE SERVICES CAN'T MAKE MONEY "the choice of the Windows Media format and the lack of user-friendly players were among the reasons it was "highly unlikely" that Ninemsn's service would make money." The choice of Windows Media Format certinly is a contributing factor... but the reason they wont make money is because THESE SERVICES CAN'T MAKE MONEY. Apple themselves -- the leader in this industry -- has said as much. Its a loss leader! It makes me wonder if Microsoft is funding the various music download efforts... and Microsoft is taking the loss to fuel WMA growth.

Dec 2, 2003, 01:35 PM	#14
winmacguy macrumors 68020 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Zealand	Australian iTMS Geez I hope so, I must admit the Australian Apple rep did say that some big things were on the way with Apple. I just hope it means we will be able to get iTUNES in NZ as well!!! On another note I was just reading some of the comments on the MacNN site regarding the European Apple store and their recent poor delivery service as reported in recent servey. For Apple's sake I really hope that Apple is doing a lot to rectify the situation especially in the run up to Christmas. I understand that the service issue occured at the time that a new system had been installed but for the length of time that Aple has been in business AND the length of time that most people have been doing online shopping I would have thought that Apple would have had a sufficient amount of POLITE, INFORMED, HELPFUL, TRAINED operators to take the calls. In retailling it is hard enough to get new customers but even harder to get them back after you have lost them or pissed them off with bad service. well Merry Christmas to all and here's to iTUNES in this part of the world!!!

Dec 2, 2003, 01:47 PM	#16
AmigoMac macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: l'Allemagne	I guess it's much easier to handle Australian music laws, really nice for the Aussie community... congratulations.. __________________ No Mac no fun...

Dec 2, 2003, 02:29 PM	#19
bluedalmatian macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Great Britain	still think they're wrong to treat europe as one. they'd be able to expand far quicker if they took each country individually as and when possible,

Dec 2, 2003, 02:50 PM	#20
johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK	Yeah, they could take Europe quicker if they did each country separately. I could see it coming to the UK earlier... But certain poor countries in Europe probably would never get it... __________________ johngriffithsapps.com - Get It Done! \| Grocery Checkout 15" MBP, iPhone 3G, 12" PB, iPod 4G, iPod shuffle

Dec 2, 2003, 02:50 PM	#21
Trowaman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CD: TX-22	Australia, Japan, and Europe are now pretty much locked in for early next year. Canada, once you guys come online I guess we're set on the main markets. How long until ITMS Nigeria? But no, I look forward to you guys joining us and to see if your countries will contribute music to the music store creating an international store providing music from every culture. Welcome to the family.

Dec 2, 2003, 03:13 PM	#23
Sayhey macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco	All of this raises questions about the ability of the iTMS to sell music across borders. If Apple has negotiated the rights to sell in Japan with companies there, do they have the right to sell those tracks to the US market and vice versa? This could be the start of making music much more accessible the world over. Unfortuately, I think the Big 5 music companies will resist selling worldwide distribution rights. I hope I'm wrong.

Dec 2, 2003, 03:15 PM	#24
rodnarms macrumors member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Port Rowan, Ontario, Canada	iTunes Expansion at Macworld Jan. I sense that Apple is going to expand the iTunes market at Macworld in January. No better time.

Dec 2, 2003, 03:21 PM	#25
billyboy macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my head	Seeing as music from iTMS is only available in the US it seems a bit bizarre to think that Japans store will be open to US buyers. It would be a coup to rejig the whole music industry licensing issue, but I dont even see lord Jobs being able to pull that one off.

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