iOS Come on SUN!!!

MattGTO

macrumors regular

Original poster

• Jul 25, 2008

• #1

When will they be releasing the Java iPhone SDK? I don't have a mac (would like to buy one), but I am gonna be taking Java class next year...and I really, really want to play around with writing apps on my iPhone.

 

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cube

Suspended

• Jul 25, 2008

• #2

Apple does not allow "interpreter" applications on the iPhone.

 

MattGTO

macrumors regular

Original poster

• Jul 25, 2008

• #3

Wasn't apple letting sun make the Java SDK? That's what I heard. If not, will the official SDK ever be released for PC?

 

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admanimal

macrumors 68040

• Jul 25, 2008

• #4

I don't really think Java on the iPhone is anything to get too excited about anyway. Even if Apple allows some kind of Java app on the phone, I can almost guarantee you that you won't be able to write standalone Java apps. At best you can write some code that runs inside the Java app.

 

TEG

macrumors 604

• Jul 25, 2008

• #5

JAVA for the iPhone is likely coming. The stumbling block is running two apps at the same time (the program and the JAVA interpreter).

TEG

 

MattGTO

macrumors regular

Original poster

• Jul 25, 2008

• #6

So I'm guessing until I get a mac, web apps are my only option...right?

 

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cube

Suspended

• Jul 25, 2008

• #7

Since when you run Java out of a JVM, except for GCJ?

 

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cube

Suspended

• Jul 25, 2008

• #8

TEG said:

The stumbling block is running two apps at the same time (the program and the JAVA interpreter).

TEG

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This is just one app running.

 

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txmike

macrumors newbie

• Jul 25, 2008

• #9

Java on an iPhone

I'd have to vote no to Java on an iPhone...

The most critical part of an iPhone application is the touch interface. Swing, SWT or AWT would be lousy on an iPhone and I just don't see Sun building a UI stack for the touch interface. If you know Java, learning ObjC is a piece of cake.

 

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MrRage

macrumors member

• Jul 26, 2008

• #10

Well the SDK could technically work under something other than OSX, but that would be a bit of a pain in the ass to setup and maintain. Anyone who has done cross platform building in GCC will know this is painful.

That and apple's is first and foremost a hardware company, and this is just another clever way for them to sell macs.

I've been doing java development at work for two years now and have really liked Objective C after getting use to it. So I'm glad there is no Java here.

 

Dippo

macrumors 65816

• Jul 26, 2008

• #11

MattGTO said:

So I'm guessing until I get a mac, web apps are my only option...right?

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Unless you can get OS X running on your PC, you are out of luck!
Apple is never going to release the iPhone SDK for windows nor linux...

 

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firewood

macrumors G3

• Jul 27, 2008

• #12

cube said:

Apple does not allow "interpreter" applications on the iPhone.

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The SDK license does not appear to allow an interpreter which can run downloaded code. Whether an embedded interpreter that can't download or link to additional code is acceptable to Apple is still unknown. So a JVM that came bundled with a non-networked or non-extensible Java byte-code app may possibly be allowable.

You can also use the built-in JavaScript (and maybe Open GL) interpreters with downloaded code. Are there any other interpreters built-in to an iPhone?

 

Cromulent

macrumors 604

• Jul 27, 2008

• #13

firewood said:

You can also use the built-in JavaScript (and maybe Open GL) interpreters with downloaded code. Are there any other interpreters built-in to an iPhone?

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OpenGL has nothing to do with being interpreted or not. It is an API.