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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:32 PM   #1
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Xserve G5 Released

Apple updated the Xserve today to 2.0GHz G5 models.

The new models are either single or dual 2.0GHz G5s with Dual Gigabit Ethernet, up to 8GB of DDR SDRAM with ECC.

Xserve updates have been long overdue and have been anticipated since the release of the PowerMac G5s.

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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:41 PM   #2
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finally - if you look on the xserve page... there's a little peak about xgrid... but the link to that page doesn't work yet ... the new servers look sweet though -

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Xgrid, new software from Apple’s Advanced Computation Group, is one of many solutions for Mac OS X that make managing a supercomputer as easy as Macintosh.
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I can just hear new PowerBook G5 rumors cropping up now that the G5 has made it into this 1U form factor.
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:44 PM   #4
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let the duels start :p

the duel 2.0 ghz

hehe - he ll duel all those overpriced shiity x86 servers.

sun - u are gone? ;p (they produce crappy x86 servers afaik)
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:47 PM   #5
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G5 Dual Workstation/Desktop Rev B

we can only hope that the mac rumors buyers guide isnt completely wrong this time and apple releases new versions of the desktop system within feburary and march.

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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:47 PM   #6
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graphics cards?

I always wanted to get a dual G5 xServe for a workstation, but, I'm not certain that there are any good graphics cards that will work with the PCI-X. Anybody have any ideas?
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:51 PM   #7
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Re: graphics cards?

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I always wanted to get a dual G5 xServe for a workstation, but, I'm not certain that there are any good graphics cards that will work with the PCI-X. Anybody have any ideas?
The only cards you will find are PCI or AGP and soon PCI-Express.
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:52 PM   #8
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Angry Xserve vs. Power Mac Memory Pricing

The price difference between 2GB memory and 8GB memory on the Dual 2GHz Xserve is $1300; on the Dual 2GHz Power Mac it is $3900.

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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:58 PM   #9
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Looks like they deleted a PCI/AGP slot and a drive module, but the addition of ECC memory and the G5s should balance it quite nice.

Interesting to see the trio of SATA drives on the K2 controller this time around (the old ATA drives were PCI-to-ATA bridges), while the dual gig ethernet controllers take residence on the main PCI bus.

Of course this dual ethernet config frees up a PCI slot.

But the XServe now requires a PCI video card...
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 02:58 PM   #10
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I was just thinking this.

If Apple has found a way to cool all those 2ghz G5 processors in such a tiny enclosure, then how long can it be before we see G5 iMacs and powerbooks?

I love my G4 Powerbook, but it is awfully tough these days to advise that over a new iBook.
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finally - if you look on the xserve page... there's a little peak about xgrid... but the link to that page doesn't work yet
Xgrid information is available on the Advanced Computation Group page.
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Correction

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The new models are either single or duel 2.0GHz G5s
It should be "dual" (as in two) instead of "duel" (as in a fight). Unless the Xserve is pitting the two processors against each other...
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 03:08 PM   #13
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If Apple has found a way to cool all those 2ghz G5 processors in such a tiny enclosure, then how long can it be before we see G5 iMacs and powerbooks?
Well, did Steve mention if those two new blow-holes shoot fire or not?
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 03:18 PM   #14
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I can just hear new PowerBook G5 rumors cropping up now that the G5 has made it into this 1U form factor.
Cooling is still a major issue...until they put some huge vents in PowerBooks to match the Xserve.
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 03:24 PM   #15
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Yeah, I wouldn't want those 7 FANS in my PowerBook!
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 03:25 PM   #16
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And remember, its not fans in the XServe but BLOWERS
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 03:42 PM   #17
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I wonder if these are as loud as the Hoover serve G4's.

Anyway, I'm glad Apple has finally released an update Xserve. Even though our company already has an older model, so we're not in the market for a new one. The XRaid looks cool too. I can imagine as a video editor having that kind of storage... one can dream right?
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 04:06 PM   #18
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90 nanonmeter G5

That's right, the new XServes use the 90nm G5. I lifted this link off of arstechnica forums

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Old Jan 6, 2004, 04:08 PM   #19
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Re: Xserve vs. Power Mac Memory Pricing

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The price difference between 2GB memory and 8GB memory on the Dual 2GHz Xserve is $1300; on the Dual 2GHz Power Mac it is $3900.

Right Hand, meet Left Hand.
1GB ECC stick (Micron) goes for $212 and up on pricewatch. That is $1696 worth of memory, minimum. Maybe this is the first sign of Apple pulling their collective heads out when talking about RAM pricing....?
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I would like to see Pixar buying a bunch of those...
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Old Jan 6, 2004, 04:43 PM   #21
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quote: I would not like those 7 fans in a powerbook..

In fact, the tech. says there are 8 fans (blowers)

The 2 holes in front are NOT blowing fire,.. they are suckholes (pardon for the language) air is going from front to back..

And nobody mentioned something about noise!! I mean.. Servers are often used in a closed envirement where noise isn't often a problem. I predict these machines sound like a boeing.. The fans are only 1 u thick.. The ones in the Powermac G5 are more than double in size!

but still great servers!!
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not just great servers, awesome ones. And the $3 per GB for the RAID, I've priced servers, as price goes that a jaw dropper! Amazing. Go Apple!
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And remember, its not fans in the XServe but BLOWERS
First off well done for getting it into a 1U case.

second: the term 'Blower', usually refers to a super charger on a car. While a hair dryer refers to turbo charging. Take this as you will.
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First off well done for getting it into a 1U case.

second: the term 'Blower', usually refers to a super charger on a car. While a hair dryer refers to turbo charging. Take this as you will.
Silly me, I though blowers were the HVAC air movement equipment.
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So how does the Xserve compare to the dual 2.0 ghz G5 in performance, in terms of gigaflops?
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