Banking Firm HSBC Considering iPhone? More iPhone Sales Estimates

MacRumors · Aug 13, 2008, 01:06 PM

ZDNet Australia reports that banking "giant" HSBC is considering ditching the BlackBerry and switching over to the iPhone for its staff. HSBC has about 300,000 staff worldwide and this transition could result in 200,000 iPhone orders.

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"We are actually reviewing iPhones from a HSBC Group perspective ... and when I say that, I mean globally," HSBC's Australia and New Zealand chief information officer Brenton Hush told ZDNet.com.au yesterday.

Whie Apple has not released official sales numbers for the iPhone 3G beyond the first weekend, analysts are predicting that Apple will sell at least 4.47 million iPhones this quarter. This estimate reportedly doesn't take into account Apple's international iPhone in 22 additional countries later this month.

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gowanis · Aug 13, 2008, 01:09 PM

someone should tell HSBC that the e-mail app is still unreliable.

iPoodOverZune · Aug 13, 2008, 01:10 PM

And the great enterprise parade for iPhone starts!

bytethese · Aug 13, 2008, 01:11 PM

Productivity drops 300% as users download free games to their iPhones...

adom · Aug 13, 2008, 01:12 PM

It'll make work at bit more fun at lunch!

Hackntosh · Aug 13, 2008, 01:13 PM

I think is is a great thing, from every encounter I have had with the Blackberry I have found them to be 100% NOT user friendly! I think that the iPhone will become the industry standard for Corp. Email and the like.

hob · Aug 13, 2008, 01:15 PM

crikey. those are some big numbers.

pcm128 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:17 PM

Hope this doesn't mean we'll be having another iPhone shortage here in the US because of HSBC.

BiikeMike · Aug 13, 2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackntosh

I think is is a great thing, from every encounter I have had with the Blackberry I have found them to be 100% NOT user friendly! I think that the iPhone will become the industry standard for Corp. Email and the like.

I disagree. My Blackberry is super user friendly. And the iPhone will not become standard any time soon. Blackberrys are just too good for email. The iPhone can't get it shizz straight, and the Blackberry has been tried and true for years

~Shard~ · Aug 13, 2008, 01:19 PM

Great news, let's hope the iPhone makes further in-roads into the enterprise market.

TEG · Aug 13, 2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gowanis

someone should tell HSBC that the e-mail app is still unreliable.

Huh? Only MobileMe is currently unreliable. Exchange Push works great, in fact annoyingly great.

This could be a great boon to iPhone in Enterprise. Next... Boeing, Nintendo, Chase.

TEG

t0mat0 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:23 PM

If a few more big businesses (and HSBC is big) sign up - it'll be interesting to see others possible change position, re-review, or think about looking into it

HSBC is basically saying, it might be worth moving away from RIM and the RIM back end equipment - that's a big statement to make. A lot of people have said that as companies use RIM compatible servers etc, that it would be cost to move to iPhones. Seems like some are already seeing that this cost needs to be put into perspective...

Good news. I wonder if we'll see some more big businesses think about heading to Macs, and or iPhones before the year is out. If it's a quantifiable competitive advantage, once someone makes a move, there will be a lot of businesses watching in interest to see what happens.

thecartoonguy · Aug 13, 2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bytethese

Productivity drops 300% as users download free games to their iPhones...

Laughing. I was thinking the same thing. Monkey Ball for everyone.

sjo · Aug 13, 2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0mat0

HSBC is basically saying, it might be worth moving away from RIM and the RIM back end equipment - that's a big statement to make. A lot of people have said that as companies use RIM compatible servers etc, that it would be cost to move to iPhones. Seems like some are already seeing that this cost needs to be put into perspective...

actually what they're saying is that they're studying if it's worthwhile to switch to iphone. given the hype, it would be surprising if they were not taking a look.

pretty much no news.

Virgil-TB2 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by t0mat0

If a few more big businesses (and HSBC is big)...

HSBC is indeed a very large corporation.

To that end, I was wondering why MacRumors felt they needed to put quotes around the word "giant" in the article? It's kind of rude given the context.

Just because a bank is relatively unknown in the USA doesn't mean it isn't one of the largest most important banks on the planet you know.

djrobsd · Aug 13, 2008, 01:41 PM

I highly doubt HSBC will move forward with this for several reasons. However, this could be good because maybe HSBC will leverage their buying power to get Apple to:

-Properly implement a remote wipe - the one they have now doesn't work too well. The one on the Blackberry's is SOLID and completely renders the device useless.

-Properly lock down all aspects of the phone:
-disable the app store
-only allow a specific list of apps to run on the phone
-filter web traffic so employees can only visit certain web sites on their phone

-Add a snooze button to calendar events

-Add sync with your to-do task list in Outlook!!!!

-Solve the 3G reception issues

-Improve battery life to that of a Blackberry, or make an iPhone with a removable battery. Most blackberry users are mobile, and can go a day or two without charging their phone.

Seriously, Blackberries are tried and true in the corporate world. The iPhone is awesome, but Apple needs to make a corporate version of the iPhone which competes and functions directly like the technology they are trying to replace, otherwise most corporations will view the iPhone as another toy to distract workers from getting their jobs done.

aricher · Aug 13, 2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TEG

Huh? Only MobileMe is currently unreliable. Exchange Push works great, in fact annoyingly great.

I agree, my Exchange account on the iPhone has been amazing. My phone actually gets my work email 1-2 seconds before it hits my Entourage.

MobileMe, other than a couple of minor outages has been pretty reliable for me as well. Calendars, email & contacts sync between my iPhone an wife's iPhone very quickly. Overall I've been very pleased.

Virgil-TB2 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEG

Huh? Only MobileMe is currently unreliable. Exchange Push works great, in fact annoyingly great.

This could be a great boon to iPhone in Enterprise. Next... Boeing, Nintendo, Chase.

TEG

Don't know about exchange push as I don't use it, but since the iPhone email app lost two of my emails yesterday, I would say that it still has a way to go.

Also, you are arguing your personal experience against conventional wisdom here (as I am to an extent), which is a fairly lame thing for both of us to do. The general consensus is that the iPhone email app is still fairly "1.0" and we both know it.

.

sushi · Aug 13, 2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Shard~

Great news, let's hope the iPhone makes further in-roads into the enterprise market.

Likewise.

This is great news.

Southernboy · Aug 13, 2008, 01:49 PM

Apple should be in contact with HSBC right now, offering them all the help and flexibility possible. A deal like this would be huge for Apple.

JoeDMD · Aug 13, 2008, 01:51 PM

I wonder if any Redmond based software giants will be switching over to iPhones?

BornAgainMac · Aug 13, 2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiikeMike

I disagree. My Blackberry is super user friendly. And the iPhone will not become standard any time soon. Blackberrys are just too good for email. The iPhone can't get it shizz straight, and the Blackberry has been tried and true for years

That isn't my experience. I will never touch a Blackberry again.

I couldn't even type in the email address when I tried to create an email. You must have had a real keyboard. I would mess up and press the wrong key and have to keep starting over again. It is like emailing with a tweezers, a paper clip, and a ball of string. The most user unfriendly email client ever. Also if I had 200 emails and had to look at a email from 4 days ago, I would have the scroll endlessly to get to it. It was a pain to even use it as a email browser.

They must have copied the iPhone since last year's phone model so email is a pleasure.

seedster2 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjo

actually what they're saying is that they're studying if it's worthwhile to switch to iphone. given the hype, it would be surprising if they were not taking a look.

pretty much no news.

Agreed.

This is being misinterpreted as HSBC is ready to dump BB altogether. They are doing their due diligence. I use my 3G w/ exchange but I am employed by a smaller tech firm with a relatively liberal IT dep't.

Doubtful the 3G in its current form will replace the BB at any large firm.

jrichard012 · Aug 13, 2008, 01:56 PM

I have been trying to download this since the update first came out. I keep getting an error message stating that the Microsoft download server could not be found. Can anyone give me some advice?

arkitect · Aug 13, 2008, 01:56 PM

If HSBC uses the iPhone with their own proprietary software it would be an excellent move…

I can't quite see HSBC switching over to me.com…

Aug 13, 2008, 01:10 PM	#3
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Aug 13, 2008, 01:13 PM	#6
Hackntosh macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Great!! I think is is a great thing, from every encounter I have had with the Blackberry I have found them to be 100% NOT user friendly! I think that the iPhone will become the industry standard for Corp. Email and the like.

Aug 13, 2008, 01:15 PM	#7
hob macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London, UK	crikey. those are some big numbers. __________________ see robmac.net for my work

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~Shard~ macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 1123.6536.5321	Great news, let's hope the iPhone makes further in-roads into the enterprise market. __________________ My riches consist not in the extent of my possessions, but in the fewness of my wants. - J. Brotherton

Aug 13, 2008, 01:09 PM	#2
gowanis macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007	someone should tell HSBC that the e-mail app is still unreliable.

Aug 13, 2008, 01:11 PM	#4
bytethese macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York, NY	Productivity drops 300% as users download free games to their iPhones...

Aug 13, 2008, 01:17 PM	#8
pcm128 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2008	Hope this doesn't mean we'll be having another iPhone shortage here in the US because of HSBC.

Aug 13, 2008, 01:23 PM	#12
t0mat0 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Home	If a few more big businesses (and HSBC is big) sign up - it'll be interesting to see others possible change position, re-review, or think about looking into it HSBC is basically saying, it might be worth moving away from RIM and the RIM back end equipment - that's a big statement to make. A lot of people have said that as companies use RIM compatible servers etc, that it would be cost to move to iPhones. Seems like some are already seeing that this cost needs to be put into perspective... Good news. I wonder if we'll see some more big businesses think about heading to Macs, and or iPhones before the year is out. If it's a quantifiable competitive advantage, once someone makes a move, there will be a lot of businesses watching in interest to see what happens. __________________ Looking forward to big things by Apple in 2009

Aug 13, 2008, 01:41 PM	#16
djrobsd macrumors regular Join Date: May 2008	I highly doubt HSBC will move forward with this for several reasons. However, this could be good because maybe HSBC will leverage their buying power to get Apple to: -Properly implement a remote wipe - the one they have now doesn't work too well. The one on the Blackberry's is SOLID and completely renders the device useless. -Properly lock down all aspects of the phone: -disable the app store -only allow a specific list of apps to run on the phone -filter web traffic so employees can only visit certain web sites on their phone -Add a snooze button to calendar events -Add sync with your to-do task list in Outlook!!!! -Solve the 3G reception issues -Improve battery life to that of a Blackberry, or make an iPhone with a removable battery. Most blackberry users are mobile, and can go a day or two without charging their phone. Seriously, Blackberries are tried and true in the corporate world. The iPhone is awesome, but Apple needs to make a corporate version of the iPhone which competes and functions directly like the technology they are trying to replace, otherwise most corporations will view the iPhone as another toy to distract workers from getting their jobs done.

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Aug 13, 2008, 01:56 PM	#24
jrichard012 macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2007	Cannot get on to server to download I have been trying to download this since the update first came out. I keep getting an error message stating that the Microsoft download server could not be found. Can anyone give me some advice?

Aug 13, 2008, 01:56 PM	#25
arkitect macrumors 68040 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Watching ink dry	If HSBC uses the iPhone with their own proprietary software it would be an excellent move… I can't quite see HSBC switching over to me.com… __________________ akroterion

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