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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:40 AM   #1
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Mac OS X 10.5.5 9F23 and New Safari 4 Seeded to Developers



Apple has seeded yet another version of Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F23) to developers on Friday as well as a new version of Safari 4.0 Developer Preview, according to AppleInsider.

The latest Mac OS X 10.5.5 seed came just days after the previous seed. Unlike the previous seed, this one had one known issue related to general searching of email messages in Mail.

Perhaps more interesting was that Apple released a new Safari 4.0 Developer Preview for Leopard, Windows and Tiger. Apple first gave developers a look at Safari 4.0 in in June. Safari 4.0 incorporates many of the latest enhancements found in WebKit. The latest HTML 5 features supported, according to AppleInsider, are said to include:

- CSS support for masks, gradients, reflections, and specifying a named canvas.
- Rudimentary support for the WAI-ARIA (Rich Internet Application) and cross-site XMLHttpRequest specifications.
- the ability to send messages between documents
- storage of data either locally or just for the user's session
- the option of running web applications outside of a browser or when disconnected from the network
- canvas pixel manipulation

Safari 4.0 also incorporates the latest SquirrelFish technology which provides dramatic JavaScript speed ups. Apple has not yet announced the expected release date for Safari 4.0.

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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:44 AM   #2
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Cool-looks like they might be releasing it soon!
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:45 AM   #3
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Apple seems to be reallll busy these past few weeks. With pretty much their whole non-iphone line in desperate need of an upgrade, while i think they all will around the same time, i'm sure they are trying to prevent another mobileme, iphone, itunes meltdown scenario again.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:50 AM   #4
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Thanks for remembering there's a world outside of iPhones and iPods, Apple. New MacBooks. Bring it!
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:52 AM   #5
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Can't wait to see some changes on Safari
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Safari 4.0 is looking really good (going by the information released). Hopefully by the time Snow Leopard is released there will be 4.5 or 5.0 released
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 04:58 AM   #7
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i hope 10.5.5 fixes ical
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:08 AM   #8
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safari will be interesting as ive recently made the switch to Firefox
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:10 AM   #9
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i hope 10.5.5 fixes ical
Hah! Yeah right!

I don't know what problem you're having with the program, but ical is the single most neglected major application in Apple's software lineup. So whatever issue you're having with it, I wouldn't pin my hopes on it getting fixed by an update. Personally I don't recall ever encountering bugs in ical, but I can tell you that ever since ical first came out I've been waiting for ical to get some absolutely basic functions added, such as being able to move more than one event at a time. Such a basic simple function! Yet ical doesn't have it!
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safari will be interesting as ive recently made the switch to Firefox
how are you finding the two? :]
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:21 AM   #11
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Hah! Yeah right!

I don't know what problem you're having with the program, but ical is the single most neglected major application in Apple's software lineup. So whatever issue you're having with it, I wouldn't pin my hopes on it getting fixed by an update. Personally I don't recall ever encountering bugs in ical, but I can tell you that ever since ical first came out I've been waiting for ical to get some absolutely basic functions added, such as being able to move more than one event at a time. Such a basic simple function! Yet ical doesn't have it!
lol they can start by fixing the "today" button
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lol they can start by fixing the "today" button
Today button is working great for me!
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:32 AM   #13
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Just to bring this home for people who miss hearing iPhone news: IIRC, iPhone Safari doesn't yet use SquirrelFish, so it too stands to get faster in future
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the latest build of Safari 4.0 kept on beach balling for me and i had to force quit it. i sent 5 crash reports to Apple in half an hour earlier today. im now back to 3.1.1 and hasnt crashed once.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:40 AM   #15
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How about Apple adding a feature to Safari that warns you when you are entering a web site that can be dangerous to you or your computer, like a site that tries to phish personal information from you, like bank details etc?

I know people should take care about where they hand over personal information, but that feature can't hurt, right?
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:45 AM   #16
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the latest build of Safari 4.0 kept on beach balling for me and i had to force quit it. i sent 5 crash reports to Apple in half an hour earlier today. im now back to 3.1.1 and hasnt crashed once.
When I was on Tiger, Safari did that to me all the time. When I installed Leopard, Safari was great, but with every minor update to Safari, it has slowly been getting worse. I hope Safari 4 fixes it again, but minor updates for it will probably ruin it again lol.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 05:52 AM   #17
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Safari 4 will need to have some new features - currently I'm on the fence between Safari and Firefox, as while FF is more functional (with the add-ons, etc), there are a few nice things like smooth scrolling in Safari which just make the whole browsing experience ... more enjoyable, really.
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the latest build of Safari 4.0 kept on beach balling for me and i had to force quit it. i sent 5 crash reports to Apple in half an hour earlier today. im now back to 3.1.1 and hasnt crashed once.
It's a preview version. Your supposed to be trying to make it crash (and reporting bugs) so that Apple can fix them. Don't expect to use it as your primary browser.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 06:21 AM   #19
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- CSS support for masks, gradients, reflections
LOL .. I love Apple. I love using reflections and all that stuff but how useful is it if it's only for one browser..

-Proudly posted from firefox 3
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LOL .. I love Apple. I love using reflections and all that stuff but how useful is it if it's only for one browser..

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[1] lol at your inability to see the complete picture (or any picture for that matter!). All these features are shared back to the community (hopefully some will make the CSS 3 spec) and will help to create and immersive, interactive web experience based on open standards.

Leave the proprietary web to Microsoft and Adobe.

[2] lol at your Firefox fanboy-ism without being able to comprehend any of the issues at stake. In many ways Apple and Mozilla want the same thing (although for different reasons).

Apple doesn't want to rely on plugins for the web because they would rather not be dependent on a third party to provide the internet experience on their future gadgets, tablets and computers.

- proudly posted by someone who want a web based on open standards, not locked to one vendor and appreciating anyone who makes an effort to get us there.
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It's a preview version. Your supposed to be trying to make it crash (and reporting bugs) so that Apple can fix them. Don't expect to use it as your primary browser.
well, I'm running the Developer preview 5526.11.2 which i wanted to try out, and basically forgot about, as I HAVE been using it as my primary browser, and have had virtually no problems at all. Seems to be as stable as the last v3 version for me.
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It's a preview version. Your supposed to be trying to make it crash (and reporting bugs) so that Apple can fix them. Don't expect to use it as your primary browser.
OK thanks! but it overwrote my earlier 4.0 developer preview that was quite stable and then when i used the uninstaller it gave me back 3.1.1.

so what primary browser are you supposed to use if you only use Safari and it overwrites your current version?
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 07:17 AM   #23
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OK thanks! but it overwrote my earlier 4.0 developer preview that was quite stable and then when i used the uninstaller it gave me back 3.1.1.

so what primary browser are you supposed to use if you only use Safari and it overwrites your current version?
There's an installer (“Safari40PreviewUninstall.pkg”) on the disk image you downloaded which removes Safari 4 puts Safari 3 back.

If you don't have the disk image, download it again from the ADC.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 08:00 AM   #24
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Just to be clear, the Safari 4 Preview is also available to ADC Online members (free registration at http://developer.apple.com)
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 08:53 AM   #25
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new safari 4

the option for opening in 64 bit mode is gone for both the safari app and for any web apps. weird..
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