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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:01 PM   #1
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iChat AV v2.1

Apple just released this on their site. It lets you video conf. w/ AIM 5.5 users on Windows!
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:18 PM   #2
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Sweet!

I can't wait to get home and try it
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:19 PM   #3
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, how sweet this is.
I can't believe this just happend . Saved my day. Now I can start thinking about getting one of these neat iSights...
Thanx for the good news.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:24 PM   #4
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, how sweet this is.
I can't believe this just happend . Saved my day. Now I can start thinking about getting one of these neat iSights...
Thanx for the good news.
This might be the most important development for iSight/iChat yet. They've now eliminated the principle reason it was a waste of money: you couldn't talk to 95% of PC users. Problem solved.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:29 PM   #5
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:34 PM   #6
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This might be the most important development for iSight/iChat yet. They've now eliminated the principle reason it was a waste of money: you couldn't talk to 95% of PC users. Problem solved.
I agree. Only question I have is will the iSight camera itself work on a Windows PC using AIM 5.5? If not, Apple is missing out on an opportunity to sell more of them.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:40 PM   #7
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Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:45 PM   #8
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Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.
Well, it's not nearly so rare as it used to be (thanks in part to the iPod), although of course the sub $500 junk boxes almost always never have FireWire.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:47 PM   #9
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Well if your PC had Firewire, then all I can see needed would be the proper drivers and software to run the hardware, which I imagine, Apple would have to provide with iSights in the future for cross compatibility.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:54 PM   #10
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Wooooooooooooooooooooo-hooooooo!

Installed fine. Don't see any changes on the surface.

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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:57 PM   #11
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Sounds great!
It's just what iSight users were waiting for.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 12:58 PM   #12
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does it support audio chat too i take it?
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:05 PM   #13
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does it support audio chat too i take it?
Isn't this what video chatting is about? Audio chatting with video?
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:13 PM   #14
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AIM "Talk" feature not supported

I tried to do a Talk using latest beta of AIM running in VirtualPC and iChat V2.1 Beta. AIM said "Talk Feature" not supported by the other user :-(
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:20 PM   #15
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I wonder if it tells you now if someone is on a cell phone. I am getting tired of using AIM to find out who is on a phone.
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Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.
Isn't PC FireWire only the 4-pin version that doesn't provide power? 'Cuz the iSight is powered through the FireWire port on the macs. My guess is that unless they add a way to power the iSight externally (and who wants to see that cord added to their rats nest?) that it won't work on a PC.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:33 PM   #17
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can't download it, comes up with a page not found link.. :-(
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:39 PM   #18
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can't download it, comes up with a page not found link.. :-(
It says page not found if you don't fill out the small form with your email and name.
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just wanted to say that i gave this a try with a friend who was using AIM with me on a PB + iSight

he says the quality was great, but because he didnt have a webcam i couldnt se ehim. also, the video disconnected after 10 secs, with a message reading "no packets recieved in the last 10 sec"

apparently its awsome quality video
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Isn't PC FireWire only the 4-pin version that doesn't provide power? 'Cuz the iSight is powered through the FireWire port on the macs. My guess is that unless they add a way to power the iSight externally (and who wants to see that cord added to their rats nest?) that it won't work on a PC.
Nah, that's "iLink" or Sony's version of FireWire. It works fine for importing off of a DV camera, but won't work with an iPod or anything that needs power. That's all you'll find on their VAIOs, but HP and others use the real 6 pin IEEE 1394 FireWire.
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And adding a PCI Firewire card to your PC should be easy enough.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 01:57 PM   #22
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And adding a PCI Firewire card to your PC should be easy enough.
Buying a Mac would be even easier!

Also, does this new update fix any bugs, or just add new features? I've noticed my memory usage in iChat being quite high... but I'm sure Steve Jobs made it like that for a reason, so whatever, I'm not qualified to judge his decisions.
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brought an iSight because of this.

Seems it can't do one way video chat, both way audio chat with IM 5.5

If this release only gives the ability of Both Way video, without any audio, then its pretty lame.
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Old Feb 5, 2004, 02:01 PM   #24
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I'm really glad to see this release. I think Apple's going to see a huge increase in iSight sales once this Beta becomes a full release.

Oh, and in case anyone is speculating on when the full version will be released, the documentation states that the Beta will expire at the end of March.
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Video only?

Was it video only or did audio also work?

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just wanted to say that i gave this a try with a friend who was using AIM with me on a PB + iSight

he says the quality was great, but because he didnt have a webcam i couldnt se ehim. also, the video disconnected after 10 secs, with a message reading "no packets recieved in the last 10 sec"

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