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Old Dec 13, 2008, 04:22 PM   #1
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MacBook Pro dual monitor options

Here's my dilemma, I am a film student and recently got a new MBP when I started classes. I have been doing a bit of research and am starting to run out of hope for finding a way to run dual monitors with the mini display port. Now i have heard about this matrox box that essentially stretches the desktop out, but I have also heard some not so good things about it as well. I was wondering if anyone here knew of any other way to run dual displays with a MBP? It just seems like Apple would realize that their users could really use this ability since the media industry is a major customer base of theirs. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Dec 13, 2008, 06:24 PM   #2
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display link

An article I read says something about displaylink. It's also for mac's. You get a box, on which you can attach a second screen (and mouse and keyboard, but those are optional). You put the other end of the box into your usb. So you use one usb port to attach another screen via displaylink. There is a "sd220v notebook docking station" made by kensington, " dynadock universal usb docking station" by toshiba, "syncmaster 94OUX" (or g40UX, I cant read the difference) from samsung. You probably need the beta driver form displaylink. You can get it from www.displaylink.com/mac

I would say, do your research, this is just a hint.

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First, congrats on getting into film school, I'm a film student at Drexel in Philadelphia.

Now. DONT get the original MXO with DVI. It won't work with DisplayPort and the box is extremely finicky if you do not use hardware on the compatibility list. Look into the MXO which uses the expresscard slot and has HDMI out so you can connect it to anything. Read the reviews, your milage may vary. I have an original MXO (my rig is in my sig) and it rocks.

Don't use the display expanders, you might be pushing the video card too far and the results can be wonky. If you need more than 2 screens, you should have gotten a mac pro.

question 2. Do you really need color accurate stuff? What career path are you looking into? Use your school's editing labs if you can, don't spend your money unless you have to.

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Old Jan 18, 2009, 01:14 AM   #4
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Here is a blog post about adding two monitors to a macbook:

triple monitor setup for unibody macbooks

I use the Matrox box to do work in Maya/Photoshop and Illustrator. It works great. No regrets.

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Old Jan 18, 2009, 11:39 AM   #5
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Old Jan 18, 2009, 11:59 AM   #6
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Macbook and Matrox DualHead2Go

I found this thread very helpful. Trying to hook my new generation (just purchased) macbook and a last generation macbook to 2 Dell 19in monitors using a Matrox Analogue DualHead2Go. Only thing I cannot achieve (going mini-dvi to VGA) is 2560 x 1280 resolution. Highest I can obtain is 2048 x 768. This is the last piece of the puzzle, after which I'm sorted. Thanks for any thoughts.
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Old Mar 8, 2009, 03:57 PM   #7
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It can be done now with the new ViDock GFX from Villagetronic device that uses the Expresscard 34 slot. With the built in DVI port you should be able to get upto 3 external monitors.


http://www.villagetronic.com/vidock/index.html
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Old May 19, 2009, 01:57 PM   #8
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ExpressCard/34 to DVi or HDMI device?

That VillageTronic device is Ok but it costs about $500.
Also, does not work with my MacBook Pro v3.

Is there no other OS-X compatible ExpressCard/34 to DVi or HDMI device?

Like this, but ExpressCard/34 and NOT CardBus.
http://www.villagetronic.com/vtbook/index.html
Expensive too.

Any other ideas out there?

The new Tritton See2 Extreme box works with Mac OS-X and gives 1920x1200/16 from a USB2.
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/p...s/TRIUV200.htm
But 16 bit.

And the Matrox box is one answer.
But it provides one very wide screen, not two 1920x1200/32.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/

Seems odd that on one has thought to design something for the EC/34 slot.
Is there some big technical challenge involved?
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Old May 20, 2009, 12:45 AM   #9
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sorry i kind of got sucked into a project for the past several months. but thanks for all the suggestions. i have looked into matrox boxes before, but had heard some complaints on how well they work for certain situations. the card looks cool but unfortunately my mbp is a version 5 and it says they are only compatible with versions 1,2 and 4...so thats out as well. i picked up the mini plug to dvi adapter from mac and i am fairly pleased because i can use my 20" wide screen as my main monitor and my mac book screen as the preview monitor...this works great for now, but in the future i could see myself looking further into this. i definitely see the express card slot as being a possible growing option due to the fact that the new sony ex1s record on ssd that are express cards.
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That VillageTronic device is Ok but it costs about $500.
Also, does not work with my MacBook Pro v3.

Is there no other OS-X compatible ExpressCard/34 to DVi or HDMI device?

Like this, but ExpressCard/34 and NOT CardBus.
http://www.villagetronic.com/vtbook/index.html
Expensive too.

Any other ideas out there?

The new Tritton See2 Extreme box works with Mac OS-X and gives 1920x1200/16 from a USB2.
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/p...s/TRIUV200.htm
But 16 bit.

And the Matrox box is one answer.
But it provides one very wide screen, not two 1920x1200/32.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/

Seems odd that on one has thought to design something for the EC/34 slot.
Is there some big technical challenge involved?
I have been following developments on this for a couple of years now. There are no easy solutions sadly. The best answer came with VillageTronic's ViDock but as you say it is only compatible with 2nd & 4th generation MBPs. It probably isn't an easy problem to solve, otherwise I am sure it would have been done by now. There is certainly a market for it. For it to really work, Apple need to liase with hardware manufacturers but it hasn't happened thus far.

I am lucky in that I have a 2nd generation MBP so I may go ahead and buy Villagetronic's new ViDock. (Although at $500 it isn't a cheap solution).

Anyone who is interested in reading a good independent review on the product go here:
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/02/05/tuaw-...r-macbook-pro/

Finally one could use a USB Displaylink monitor which would work on any mac through the USB ports, but there are of course certain limitations using this approach. What's the problem with the Tritton See2 being only 16 bit? It supports resolutions up to 1200x1920 which is a 24" monitor.
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:41 AM   #11
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Displaylink Etc.

Thanks kdum8.
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Old May 24, 2010, 01:30 AM   #12
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reviving an old thread. . .

If this MSI solution works with Macbook Pro's, this could be a relatively affordable solution to add an extra monitor to the Macbook pro.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/m...-slot-to-call/
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reviving an old thread. . .

If this MSI solution works with Macbook Pro's, this could be a relatively affordable solution to add an extra monitor to the Macbook pro.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/m...-slot-to-call/
I wonder if Drivers will be OS X compatible.

I also am looking for more MacBook Pro discussion on these options :

the MSI is new
and the ViDock2
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anyone know of any other forums that discuss these topics? My google keeps sending me here and this topic is basically dead here
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Any updates to run monitors 2560 x 1600
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Old Aug 6, 2010, 07:15 AM   #16
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Here's my dilemma, I am a film student and recently got a new MBP when I started classes. I have been doing a bit of research and am starting to run out of hope for finding a way to run dual monitors with the mini display port. Now i have heard about this matrox box that essentially stretches the desktop out, but I have also heard some not so good things about it as well. I was wondering if anyone here knew of any other way to run dual displays with a MBP? It just seems like Apple would realize that their users could really use this ability since the media industry is a major customer base of theirs. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

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I have a 2006 MacBook Pro (2 ghz Core Duo, ATI Radeon X1600 w/256MB VRAM) and I use the digital Matrox box for three monitors--two 1920x1080 cheap flatscreens and my MBP's native monitor. I have had no problems with this set-up and my workspace is HUGE. The software driving the Matrox box does this by reporting to the OS that I have just one 3840x1080 monitor, and then just divides the signal in half between the two external monitors.

The only real problem with this is that dialog boxes that pop up get divided right in the middle by the bezels between the two monitors, but that's a small price to pay for a massive desktop at a cheap price. I certainly couldn't afford a 30" ACD, and a wider/thinner workspace is more productive for me than a shorter/taller one would be.

Now, keep in mind that I use this system largely for audio production, and only occasionally for video or graphic design work. Color is fine, though, and I bet with the proper calibration the Matrox system would work in your application.

It is often stated that one of the biggest productivity gains from hardware is a bigger screen. I believe that. With my current rig I can do my sample editing on my first external monitor, have a 48 channel strip mixer open on the second external monitor, and manage my plug-ins on the MBP's screen.

It's pretty "ghetto" compared to a sleek and beautiful 30" ACD, but it works just fine.
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