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Old Feb 24, 2009, 10:22 AM   #1
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So I've always used FireFox since the beginning of time pretty much but just this morning I decided to try out Safari 4.
I actually REALLY like it! I think I like it enough to switch from FireFox!
The "Top Sites" feature is pretty cool and everything seems to load super fast!

Just curious if anyone else gonna make the switch from FireFox?

One question I have about Safari is, where is the 'home' button??
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My trying it depends on just how much SNAPPIER it is than Safari 3....

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My trying it depends on just how much SNAPPIER it is than Safari 3....

I just noticed YouTube loads WAY faster too!
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Safari was always a bit faster, but there were just a few things that weren't as good as FF. Firstly, Safari crashes more often on my machine. Secondly, if I go to the bookmarks drop-down menu and press "Apple + T" (or the scroll-wheel click button on a mouse), the webpage doesn't open in a new tab. It's really useful, and works in Firefox on Macs and Windows, and IE7 on Windows. The solution is to create a new tab first, then selecting the bookmark you want in the menu. However, it's an extra step, and I do a lot of web surfing.


As good as Safari may be in terms of speed, the UI is lacking just the 1 thing that is actually
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Safari was always a bit faster, but there were just a few things that weren't as good as FF. Firstly, Safari crashes more often on my machine. Secondly, if I go to the bookmarks drop-down menu and press "Apple + T" (or the scroll-wheel click button on a mouse), the webpage doesn't open in a new tab. It's really useful, and works in Firefox on Macs and Windows, and IE7 on Windows. The solution is to create a new tab first, then selecting the bookmark you want in the menu. However, it's an extra step, and I do a lot of web surfing.


As good as Safari may be in terms of speed, the UI is lacking just the 1 thing that is actually
I just tried "Apple + T" and it opens the "Top Sites" feature.. ?
Also, is there a Home button on Safari? I cant find it haha! FireFox had the little house icon
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Secondly, if I go to the bookmarks drop-down menu and press "Apple + T" (or the scroll-wheel click button on a mouse), the webpage doesn't open in a new tab.
Is this what you were talking about??
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So I've always used FireFox since the beginning of time pretty much but just this morning I decided to try out Safari 4.
I actually REALLY like it! I think I like it enough to switch from FireFox!
The "Top Sites" feature is pretty cool and everything seems to load super fast!

Just curious if anyone else gonna make the switch from FireFox?

One question I have about Safari is, where is the 'home' button??
i think the only thing holding me back from safari 4 is always the security issues and updates required.. that's why i seem to like camino better.. with that said hopefully the camino/mozilla folks are paying attention to this
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i think the only thing holding me back from safari 4 is always the security issues and updates required.. that's why i seem to like camino better.. with that said hopefully the camino/mozilla folks are paying attention to this
What security issues are you talking about? That RSS thing a little while back?
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I tried this but it crashes every time i start it up. Anybody have any ideas?!
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I just tried "Apple + T" and it opens the "Top Sites" feature.. ?
Also, is there a Home button on Safari? I cant find it haha! FireFox had the little house icon
New tabs open on the Top Sites (same as clicking the 4x3 grid). When you click command-T you'll see a new tab at the top (I don't think I like where the tabs are - I prefer the traditional location, but that's mostly because I'm used to it, but also it's further to move the mouse. I'll have to start using command-shift-arrows). I expect the page is configurable but I haven't looked yet. (Edit: yes, Preferences -> General -> New Tabs open with)

Safari doesn't display the Home button by default - command-shift-H does this with the keyboard, but you can also customize your Toolbar (Menu -> View -> Customize Toolbar).
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I tried this but it crashes every time i start it up. Anybody have any ideas?!
Do you have any Safari3 plug-in's installed/setup? Those may be causing issues.
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Do you have any Safari3 plug-in's installed/setup? Those may be causing issues.
Glims and SafariBlock.... hmm... maybe i'll try taking Glims off for right now just so I can take Safari 4 for a test drive.
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The way to load your homepage is Shift+CMD+H
Or customize your Toolbar for those used to all other browsers.

Edit: oh ... no reload button in the toolbar or customize toolbar. command-R reloads, I know, but muscle memory brings my mouse to the top of the window. Edit 2: I'm dumb, reload is in the location field.

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The way to load your homepage is Shift+CMD+H

Or simply add a Home button to the toolbar.
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Very happy to say that i'm posting this from Safari 4

For anybody else who's having trouble with Safari 4 crashing at launch, you need to remove Glims from your system and then re-install Safari 4.
That should fix the problem.
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Is this what you were talking about??
Yes, that's it, but it doesn't apply to what I'm talking about. Those only apply when your mouse cursor is hovering over a link. You can open up a link in a new tab quite easily. However, when you're going through your list of bookmarks and try to go to a website, the site opens in the current tab. It doesn't just create a new tab and go to the new site. Is that clearer?


In Mozilla and other browsers, I can do this. Again, it's not a HUGE deal, particularly for those who never even considered this, but for me, it's a UI issue. Well, Safari crashing often didn't help either.
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So this is indeed REALLY fast.. I hope not all of it is due to clearing the cache, etc.
I like the extra space due to having the tabs at the top, but i keep forgetting I have tabs open lol
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Yes, that's it, but it doesn't apply to what I'm talking about. Those only apply when your mouse cursor is hovering over a link. You can open up a link in a new tab quite easily. However, when you're going through your list of bookmarks and try to go to a website, the site opens in the current tab. It doesn't just create a new tab and go to the new site. Is that clearer?


In Mozilla and other browsers, I can do this. Again, it's not a HUGE deal, particularly for those who never even considered this, but for me, it's a UI issue. Well, Safari crashing often didn't help either.

That's not true. If i click down on a list of bookmarks and hold Command and click my mouse on the link, it'll open in a new tab just like any other browser.
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Yes, that's it, but it doesn't apply to what I'm talking about. Those only apply when your mouse cursor is hovering over a link. You can open up a link in a new tab quite easily. However, when you're going through your list of bookmarks and try to go to a website, the site opens in the current tab. It doesn't just create a new tab and go to the new site. Is that clearer?
How about trying it from another angle? You can configure new tab to open with your bookmarks.
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That's not true. If i click down on a list of bookmarks and hold Command and click my mouse on the link, it'll open in a new tab just like any other browser.
Does it work if you click on the scroll-wheel button? That was always the main problem. Again, a UI thing. I shouldn't need a keyboard to browse when I'm surfing through my huge collection of porn bookmarks.

All I remember about Safari was that there was 1 or 2 things you couldn't do on it that was possible on Mozilla. If they finally changed it, then great. If not, I'll keep waiting. I'll probably try Safari 4 anyway.
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Yes, that's it, but it doesn't apply to what I'm talking about. Those only apply when your mouse cursor is hovering over a link. You can open up a link in a new tab quite easily. However, when you're going through your list of bookmarks and try to go to a website, the site opens in the current tab. It doesn't just create a new tab and go to the new site. Is that clearer?


In Mozilla and other browsers, I can do this. Again, it's not a HUGE deal, particularly for those who never even considered this, but for me, it's a UI issue. Well, Safari crashing often didn't help either.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I see what your saying.
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Does it work if you click on the scroll-wheel button? That was always the main problem. Again, a UI thing. I shouldn't need a keyboard to browse when I'm surfing through my huge collection of porn bookmarks.

All I remember about Safari was that there was 1 or 2 things you couldn't do on it that was possible on Mozilla. If they finally changed it, then great. If not, I'll keep waiting. I'll probably try Safari 4 anyway.
I have a mighty mouse so my scroll/wheel button does something else.
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Using webkit latest build against safari 4 and the "snappier" feel just isn't there? Although safari 4 does have neat features I'm going to stick with webkit
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