13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

MacModMachine · Jun 12, 2009, 03:04 PM

can people check this and see, some users are reporting only 1.5gb sata connection speeds.

fuzzielitlpanda · Jun 12, 2009, 03:07 PM

i've started a support thread over at apple forums too:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....36732&tstart=0

MacModMachine · Jun 12, 2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzielitlpanda

i've started a support thread over at apple forums too:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....36732&tstart=0

perfect, i wonder if its on the 9400m 15" too ?

Cave Man · Jun 12, 2009, 03:12 PM

What is the make and model of your hard drive?

uberamd · Jun 12, 2009, 03:13 PM

Doesn't seem right to me.

sparkie7 · Jun 12, 2009, 03:19 PM

shouldn't it be 3GB ?

fuzzielitlpanda · Jun 12, 2009, 03:34 PM

yes it should be 3 Gigabit. i'm using a ocz vertex 60gb. worked fine on previous 15" umbp, but has been giving me all sorts of problems on the new 13" mbp, even with fresh install.

mac jones · Jun 12, 2009, 03:40 PM

I posted in that other thread also

I'm thinking there's some kind of bug and it could be fixed. It's just to bizarre.

I'd be on the phone unitll I found out a definitive answer. (I'm tempted to call and I haven't even got a new one (I'm a Vertex user in the MB 13")

Salviotti · Jun 12, 2009, 03:42 PM

I'd love to get to the bottom of this issue. I just sold my MBA in order to get a new uMBP. My MBA battery life was horrible. I'm thinking about getting the 13" but if this is true, then perhaps I'd get the 15".

dukebound85 · Jun 12, 2009, 03:43 PM

how does one test for this?

acurafan · Jun 12, 2009, 03:43 PM

i hope not - otherwise i would be royally pissed at apple.

fuzzielitlpanda · Jun 12, 2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

how does one test for this?

Please do:

click on the apple at top left - about this mac - more info - click sata under hardware section - look at speed:

MacModMachine · Jun 12, 2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

how does one test for this?

under your profiler, click the apple , about this mac , more info , serial ata

that will let you know what your running

Cave Man · Jun 12, 2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

how does one test for this?

I use Intech Speedtools.

dukebound85 · Jun 12, 2009, 03:48 PM

hmm thanks guys. i see my first gen mb is running at 1.5 with the wd 500gig 5400 (got earlier this year)

is my mb able to run at 3? im pretty sure my hdd is 3g/s

MacModMachine · Jun 12, 2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

hmm thanks guys. i see my first gen mb is running at 1.5 with the wd 500gig 5400 (got earlier this year)

is my mb able to run at 3? im pretty sure my hdd is 3g/s

who knows...i dont think firmware can enable 3gb sata

so i think your stuck and everyone with 13" will be stuck on 1.5gbit sata

fuzzielitlpanda · Jun 12, 2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

hmm thanks guys. i see my first gen mb is running at 1.5 with the wd 500gig 5400 (got earlier this year)

is my mb able to run at 3? im pretty sure my hdd is 3g/s

first gen mb will run at 1.5 as that was the technology at the time. even if you install a hdd that can run at 3.0, it will be limited by the sata interface and run at 1.5. the limitation is in the hardware, so no software update will upgrade it. that is what troubles me about this new discovery in the 13" mbp

MasterChief · Jun 12, 2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacModMachine

who knows...i dont think firmware can enable 3gb sata

so i think your stuck and everyone with 13" will be stuck on 1.5gbit sata

Ummm...i just spent a ******** on this new 2.53 ghz 13''...I'm not sure im understanding this...what does it mean?

MacModMachine · Jun 12, 2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief

Ummm...i just spent a ******** on this new 2.53 ghz 13''...I'm not sure im understanding this...what does it mean?

this is not confirmed,

but it might be the case that the 13" mbp has 1.5gbit sata...which means i just wasted a ton of money on 13" mbp's and ssd's

Cave Man · Jun 12, 2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukebound85

hmm thanks guys. i see my first gen mb is running at 1.5 with the wd 500gig 5400 (got earlier this year)... is my mb able to run at 3? im pretty sure my hdd is 3g/s

First (CD) and second (C2D) gen MBP (and MB and Intel iMacs and Minis) use the GMA950 chipset (ICH7m SATA controller), which is 1.5 gbps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacModMachine

this is not confirmed,

but it might be the case that the 13" mbp has 1.5gbit sata...which means i just wasted a ton of money on 13" mbp's and ssd's

The 9400m has a 3 gbps SATA controller. Provided the drive does, too, then you should have 3 gpbs.

fuzzielitlpanda · Jun 12, 2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Man

The 9400m has a 3 gbps SATA controller. Provided the drive does, too, then you should have 3 gpbs.

it should, but it doesn't for whatever reason. hoping we get enough data to verify that this is a big mistake

dukebound85 · Jun 12, 2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzielitlpanda

first gen mb will run at 1.5 as that was the technology at the time. even if you install a hdd that can run at 3.0, it will be limited by the sata interface and run at 1.5. the limitation is in the hardware, so no software update will upgrade it. that is what troubles me about this new discovery in the 13" mbp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Man

First (CD) and second (C2D) gen MBP (and MB and Intel iMacs and Minis) use the Calistoga chipset (ICH7m SATA controller), which is 1.5 gbps.

thanks you guys

Ploki · Jun 12, 2009, 04:04 PM

just checked on 13" MB, and its 3gigabit with stock 5k4 drive.. so i doubt they degraded the MBP from MB.. ?!

gnasher729 · Jun 12, 2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief

Ummm...i just spent a ******** on this new 2.53 ghz 13''...I'm not sure im understanding this...what does it mean?

Not much. They are talking about the speed at which the hard drive can send data through the connector cable to the computer. 3.0GBit SATA can send 300 Megabyte per second, 1.5GBit SATA can send 150 Megabyte per second.

However, that is the speed at which data can be sent through the cable. The hard drive cannot actually read data from the disk at that speed. That is at the moment limited to maybe 80 or 90 Megabyte per second. So at the moment, 1.5 GBit SATA vs. 3.0 GBit doesn't make much difference for a laptop. It would make a difference if you connect a RAID drive to a MacPro that can exceed the 150 Megabyte per second limit of 1.5 GBit SATA.

For comparison: Firewire 400 has a maximum of 50 Megabyte per second, Firewire 800 has a limit of 100 Megabyte per second. So Firewire 400 _does_ actually slow a fast external hard drive down.

andymodem · Jun 12, 2009, 04:09 PM

Brand new 13" MBP, installed a Western Digital Black 7200RPM 320GB HD and it's reporting Sata 1.5 when it's a Sata 3 drive.

View Poll Results: Which connector is your new unibody Macbook pro
Sata I - 1.5Gbit	214	71.81%
Sata II - 3.0Gbit	84	28.19%
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Salviotti macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2007	I'd love to get to the bottom of this issue. I just sold my MBA in order to get a new uMBP. My MBA battery life was horrible. I'm thinking about getting the 13" but if this is true, then perhaps I'd get the 15". __________________ Mac Pro, 2.66 Quad - 5 GB RAM, 1.25TB HD; 13" MPB 2.26, 16 GB iPhone 3G

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fuzzielitlpanda macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008	i've started a support thread over at apple forums too: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....36732&tstart=0

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sparkie7 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2008	shouldn't it be 3GB ?

Jun 12, 2009, 03:34 PM	#7
fuzzielitlpanda macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008	yes it should be 3 Gigabit. i'm using a ocz vertex 60gb. worked fine on previous 15" umbp, but has been giving me all sorts of problems on the new 13" mbp, even with fresh install.

Jun 12, 2009, 03:40 PM	#8
mac jones macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2006	I posted in that other thread also I'm thinking there's some kind of bug and it could be fixed. It's just to bizarre. I'd be on the phone unitll I found out a definitive answer. (I'm tempted to call and I haven't even got a new one (I'm a Vertex user in the MB 13")

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dukebound85 macrumors 603 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Upstate New York, but will always have my heart in Colorado	hmm thanks guys. i see my first gen mb is running at 1.5 with the wd 500gig 5400 (got earlier this year) is my mb able to run at 3? im pretty sure my hdd is 3g/s __________________ "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Churchill

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Ploki macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2008	just checked on 13" MB, and its 3gigabit with stock 5k4 drive.. so i doubt they degraded the MBP from MB.. ?! __________________ MacPro '08 8x2,8 \| 4x1 GB \| 8800GT \| 320+750 WD Caviar uMBP 2,53 \| 2x2GB \| WD Black 320GB +EXPRESSCARD/34

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andymodem macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD	Brand new 13" MBP, installed a Western Digital Black 7200RPM 320GB HD and it's reporting Sata 1.5 when it's a Sata 3 drive. __________________ 13.3" MacBook Pro 2.26GHz/2GB RAM/320GB WD Black HD, Q9400 @ 3.0GHz w/Windows 7, Windows Home Server on E4500.

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