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2015 Macbook Pro's Intel Iris 6100 is so choppy in Yosemite
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No, I booted 15 minutes before recording. Doesn't matter if I've used it for 15 minutes or 15 hours. Always the same amount of lag.
Yes, a bit. Not much though. Might be placebo though. It sure is, a Dell 2415Q.
Still choppy when scrolling in webpages for me. If Finder locks the machine up again then the thing goes back. I bought it 3/31 so I have a few days.
Just did a clean install of Yosemite 10.10.3 on my new 13' 2015.
Animations and scrolling is a ****** mess. Using the device with 1440x900 scaling enabled and without an external display for testing purposes. Reducing transparency helps a lot, but this should not be necessary.
Animations and scrolling is a ****** mess. Using the device with 1440x900 scaling enabled and without an external display for testing purposes. Reducing transparency helps a lot, but this should not be necessary.
it's barely better. the whole experience is so bad for me, it makes it tough to feel productive when I cringe to ever switch desktops!
my 2013 i7 Air feels much faster than this new Pro
What boggles the mind is that the retina iMac seems to be manifesting the issue, as well, despite its dedicated GPU. Is Apple's code so suboptimal? Is the task so computationally intensive?
I hope the 15" models will be updated soon. I buy a new machine only every 5-6 years, and it looks very unlikely that a rMBP that is already as challenged as the 13 incher will be able to cope with the demands of 2020.
I hope the 15" models will be updated soon. I buy a new machine only every 5-6 years, and it looks very unlikely that a rMBP that is already as challenged as the 13 incher will be able to cope with the demands of 2020.
it's barely better. the whole experience is so bad for me, it makes it tough to feel productive when I cringe to ever switch desktops!
Even my 13' 2013 Baseline Air feels way smoother than this.
Two more interesting facts:
1. When you enter Mission Control while pressing shift, the slow animation is also choppy. The main problem seems not the dropped, but the wrongly timed frames. Like 50 fps video on a 60 fps screen. (Tried to record it with my iPhone, but it is not as intense on the recording as in person.)
2. It is just as bad in non-retina resolutions as in retina. You can try it using several utilities, my choice was this one: https://github.com/Eun/DisableMonitor
I really don't get how Apple thought it was a good idea to introduce transparency on machines which were already not running perfectly smooth, including mine (late 2013 rMBP with dGPU).
Mavericks was pretty good, nothing amazing, resizing windows was pretty laggy and stuff, but Yosemite just pushed back performance. Yeah, disabling transparency makes things better, but I don't see why we should have to do that on a over 2,500 machine.
Mavericks was pretty good, nothing amazing, resizing windows was pretty laggy and stuff, but Yosemite just pushed back performance. Yeah, disabling transparency makes things better, but I don't see why we should have to do that on a over 2,500 machine.
Transparency on here on my work machine...a 2008 iMac. Runs great. Don't think for a second the issue is too weak of a GPU.
Seriously, even a 15-incher with a dGPU stutters?! How many windows does it take for this to happen? This is simply outrageous.
I agree. We aren't even talking about 3D graphics, just 2D rendering for desktop compositing. All GPUs, including the HD 4000 is fully capable of running retina resolutions smoothly spec-wise. It's the poor graphic drivers and lack of code optimisation that's making things stutter.
I think we should gather results into some organized form. For this I have created a Google Docs table:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V8gAIwP84vnheckK-3KWYnp4uVhTEiDigWfgWCcawq8/edit?usp=sharing
Please fill this with your results. I am also interested in you, who do not experience the issue. Let's isolate it!
Excellent contribution, thank you. May I recommend three additional columns: transparency on/off, number of windows, and number of spaces. These could be standardized for more meaningful comparison.
2015 Macbook Pro's Intel Iris 6100 is so choppy in Yosemite
I hope so
Remember that up until OS X 10.10.2 (?), I guess, the "About this Mac" Window was soooo laggy when you switched between the tabs. It was like running at 3-4 fps with frame stutters during the "tab-switch" animation.
Then after 10.10.2 was released it was gone and now it's super smooth.
I do hope Apple is fixing this issue systemwide , because the hardware is definitely capable of running those resolutions.
I hope so
Remember that up until OS X 10.10.2 (?), I guess, the "About this Mac" Window was soooo laggy when you switched between the tabs. It was like running at 3-4 fps with frame stutters during the "tab-switch" animation.
Then after 10.10.2 was released it was gone and now it's super smooth.
I do hope Apple is fixing this issue systemwide , because the hardware is definitely capable of running those resolutions.
So today I bought a new 2015 13" Macbook Pro after finally giving up on waiting out Apple for a retina display on my aging Macbook Air. I am experiencing extremely poor GUI performance.
I know that retina displays are taxing on GPUs, but the Intel 6000 series seems incapable of driving this display without extreme choppiness in Yosemite for a number of actions mission control, switching between windows, opening new windows, etc. This is the most significant lag I've experienced on any laptop on Yosemite. My old 2010 Macbook Pro 13" doesn't lag this bad on Yosemite.
Is this the experience of others here? The performance is so bad that I'm going to return the laptop if it doesn't improve because it severely impedes on the usability of the system. Also it is BRAND NEW!
UPDATE: Resetting the PRAM may fix this issue for you it fixed it for me.
Double update: So yeah, apparently this is a widespread problem. I figured I'd provide a final update: The PRAM reset fixed the problem for a few hours and then it promptly returned, even on a fresh install of both the 10.3 beta and the 10.2 stock with no 3rd party programs running well after the housekeeping processes completed. When using an external 1080p monitor, I experienced display lag so bad on mission control and spaces that it prevented me from using the laptop efficiently, which is unacceptable IMO for a brand new laptop. I eventually returned the Macbook Pro to Apple, and I'm going to wait until the next revision of the laptop to upgrade. My Macbook Air from 2013 continues to have fantastic performance silky smooth with tons of 3rd party programs installed
I have been astounded at the performance of my 2015 rMBP over my 2013 rMBP which could barely play a 4K video. External use on both a cheap and expensive monitor also fine. Here is a screen shot from a video called Costa Rica that plays perfectly:
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lol animations are off or sped up so i can do work faster.
it seems unlikely to me it's hardware becaues i can reboot into snow leopard and it's fine. (and yes i started yosemite with a clean install, but the issues made me revert)
anyway, i don't want to derail, but i suspect the issues are related if other people's WindowServer and kernal_task processes are spiking in cpu use like mine are?
sad to hear this, i was planning on upgrading, not sure now.
Simply put, lag is related to Retina and scaling algorithms. Connect any Retina Mac to a non-HiDPI monitor, turn off the internal display, and watch how silky smooth all animations are.