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[C DM]

Stock does always react on announcements - if announcements let investors know or at least feel that there will be a future profit not yet priced-in the shares - then, they will go up.
If the announcements do not or are more or less disappointing or will result in less profits than priced-in, stock-prices will fall.
It is that simple.

I agree that there is a sort of saturation of the market concerning all competitors.
BUT: at the same time the competitors are not just arrived on apple´s level, they are going to surpass it.
Started with Samsung (they are announcing a really great Galaxy7) , now Huawei MateS (look for detailed infos! It´s worth it!) and other competitors are not bad either… don´t forget: with the iP6/6+ apple silently copied already its competitor Samsung´s Phablets...

Impossible for overpriced iPhones to hold their marketshare (other than by lower prices).

apple now is behind with nearly everything: Smartphones, skylake-notebooks, high-performant desktops, even TB3, 5k-Screens, and so on. They are behind most competitors in the future Streaming-market. In consequence, their profits from "classic" selling mp3-songs in their platform will melt down either. Amazon is world leader seller concerning ebooks and videos and will enter extremely aggressive in the Internet-TV-market and streaming as well.

And what is apple doing? They solder and glue their products to prevent their customers to upgrade - how stupid this is!

NO, they are losing on every battlefield at the moment. And there is no cavalry to save their lives - once their ammunition (gigantic financial reserves) have been consumed. it´s a little bit like the NOKIA-story… or HP, or IBM, or GM, … and even in apple´s own history it is a "déjà-vu"… now there is no Steve Jobs any more to save them with the right visions…

so: NO. it is not by accident that apple shares will go down step by step…

but have a look at Huawei´s stock: it´s shooting-up since 1-2 years..and does NOT react at all on the "market-situation"...
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/002502:CH

Plenty of times that Apple's stock has gone down on new iPhone announcements. Clearly the thing that has been setting record sales each time and making more and more money for the company wouldn't rationally result in people being disappointed (or if that's the case then it's purely subjective disappointment based on emotion and not anything objective). So clearly not nearly as simple as it might seem or as some people might want to make it out to be (or wish it was). The whole market system and reality are fairly different things.

 

[NT1440]

Plenty of times that Apple's stock has gone down on new iPhone announcements.

I can't remember a time that the stock didn't go down immediately after an Apple event. It's like clockwork.

Also, anytime you see an article quoting "supply chain estimates" just do yourself a favor and put it back on the roll in your bathroom where it belongs.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

Plenty of times that Apple's stock has gone down on new iPhone announcements. Clearly the thing that has been setting record sales each time and making more and more money for the company wouldn't rationally result in people being disappointed (or if that's the case then it's purely subjective disappointment based on emotion and not anything objective). So clearly not nearly as simple as it might seem or as some people might want to make it out to be (or wish it was). The whole market system and reality are fairly different things.

You forget a extremely important FACT:

apple´s CEO himself warned about upcoming cuts in iPhone-sales … so the situation is completely different from all the years before

 

[C DM]

You forget a extremely important FACT:

apple´s CEO himself warned about upcoming cuts in iPhone-sales … so the situation is completely different from all the years before

That doesn't change the comments about generalizations about announcements and stock price that certainly didn't hold up plenty of times before.

As for this particular case, yes there's an extra part to it, the slowdown in the acceleration essentially, which hasn't been unexpected. Aside from the fact that the market has always been getting more and more saturated and at some point a slowdown would have to occur, it doesn't necessarily spell out anything in particular about Apple or how they are doing.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

That doesn't change the comments about generalizations about announcements and stock price that certainly didn't hold up plenty of times before.

As for this particular case, yes there's an extra part to it, the slowdown in the acceleration essentially, which hasn't been unexpected. Aside from the fact that the market has always been getting more and more saturated and at some point a slowdown would have to occur, it doesn't necessarily spell out anything in particular about Apple or how they are doing.

So you are claiming that the price of apple shares have nothing to do with apple´s market and its competitors?
really interesting. Look at Huawei´s stock prices...

I propose an appointment in exactly one year. We´ll see on february 2017 which one of us was right today, ok?

 

[C DM]

So you are claiming that the price of apple shares have nothing to do with apple´s market and its competitors?
really interesting. Look at Huawei´s stock prices...

I propose an appointment in exactly one year. We´ll see on february 2017 which one of us was right today, ok?

I'm claiming that the generalized statements that were made have been shown not to hold plenty of times.

 

[Zirel]

Better in what sense?
Shurely better in profits, because better in marketing, better in fulfilling tech-fashion and tech-trends.

But this is in no way obligatorily connected with
- more quality/usability
- more Customer-care
- R&D for better fulfilling of customers needs in real life and daily practical use.
- leading technology
- more reliability of hardware and OS

For example:In the old days 3 types of Videosystems were competing:

technically the best: Video2000 (grundig) , second Beta (Sony) and the worst of three: VHS (Panasonic).
as we all know, VHS won. The history is full of similar examples…
It is all about marketing, financial & market power and strategic play, NOT about best technology or best-for-customers needs. sadly for us customers...

It's not always linear.

 

[BigHonkingDeal]

So yesterday Jim Cramer was on CNBC saying Apple should do a $199 fitness band with Nike. Of course just a week ago he was saying Apple should acquire Fitbit and Harmon and Verifone. It's crazy the way all these clowns are in a panic looking for new revenue streams for Apple. I'm glad none of them actually run companies. It's bad enough they're out there giving financial advice to people.

All you need to know about Cramer....

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[Zirel]

I can't remember a time that the stock didn't go down immediately after an Apple event. It's like clockwork.

Yep.

http://mashable.com/2014/09/09/investors-to-apple-meh/#WNHy3JG.uEq0

Investors are stupid. That's it.

Apple could invent a time machine (not the "Time Machine" software), and they would go meh.

Google could put out some PR BS about what they are never going to release, and if they release, it's going to be late and bad, and they would buy it in droves!

There's no other explanation. Wall Street is made of dumb people.

 

[NT1440]

You forget a extremely important FACT:

apple´s CEO himself warned about upcoming cuts in iPhone-sales … so the situation is completely different from all the years before

Not really, it's well known that at the end of a S cycle demand is pent up until the wholly new device is released.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

well - we´ll see.

Samsungs Galaxy7/Edge7 will enter the market in Mars, Huawei´s Mat S also about at that time, I guess. Will be interesting to have a look at the "non-responding" of apple shares in Mars/april…

going short might be a good option...